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[Kira]

Modano to wear either #89 or 90



"Also of extremely important note: Modano says that he has not ruled out playing for the Red Wings for more than one season".




http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2010/08/modano_discusses_decision_to_j.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+redwingssnapshots+%28Red+Wings+Snapshots+-+MLive.com%29&utm_content=Twitter

[SouthernWingsFan]

Yep. Echoing my thoughts. Can't say it enough, $1.25 million.

WE PAID JASON WILLIAMS $1.5 MILLION LAST YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By seasons end, this will look like a HUGE bargain.

I wasn't one to constantly dog on Williams on here, but this is a Check and Mate post if there ever was one.

Williams did butkus here last season, both Bertuzzi and Modano are steals considering salaries, and both are better than Williams even at the closing of their careers.

If you don't want Modano here because he's close to retirement and you think he's holding back roster spots from younger guys, cool, that's fine. I strongly disagree with you there, but I see your point.

No wanting him becuase you think he's washed up and useless and provides no production is extremely ridiculous when his numbers and output proves otherwise.

Edited by SouthernWingsFan, 05 August 2010 - 02:52 PM.

[Echolalia]

I'm just curious: why don't you want him on the team?

[Buppy]

I wasn't one to constantly dog on Williams on here, but this is a Check and Mate post if there ever was one.

Williams did butkus here last season, both Bertuzzi and Modano are steals considering salaries, and both are better than Williams even at the closing of their careers.

If you don't want Modano here because he's close to retirement and you think he's holding back roster spots from younger guys, cool, that's fine. I strongly disagree with you there, but I see your point.

No wanting him becuase you think he's washed up and useless and provides no production is extremely ridiculous when his numbers and output proves otherwise.

Just a note. Prior to signing here, Williams scored 19g/47p in 80 games for Atlanta/Columbus. The year before he scored 13g/36p in 43 games for Chicago. More goals and points in fewer games than Modano his last two seasons. He was looking pretty good until the injury, and he never really got back into it after he came back.

Williams turning out poorly doesn't automatically make Modano a good signing. Modano's performance this year will determine that. For now it looks good, but so did Williams at the time.

[SouthernWingsFan]

Just a note. Prior to signing here, Williams scored 19g/47p in 80 games for Atlanta/Columbus. The year before he scored 13g/36p in 43 games for Chicago. More goals and points in fewer games than Modano his last two seasons. He was looking pretty good until the injury, and he never really got back into it after he came back.

Williams turning out poorly doesn't automatically make Modano a good signing. Modano's performance this year will determine that. For now it looks good, but so did Williams at the time.

Right right.

At the time of Williams coming back for a 2nd stint here, it was a decent signing and kinda an emergency one to try to replace some offense the year before with Hossa and Hudler leaving. He wasn't going to replace all of it obviously, but hopefully some.

And he barely did a thing unfortuantely and just regressed further and further as the season went on (and was injured some).

Does he get an unfair rap? Some, but he didn't help his cause much, if at all.

I don't blame management for re-signing him at the time, they did the best they could with what was given/options available. Sometimes they don't work out, that's life and business sometimes.

[NeverForgetMac25]

I'm with Aussie Wing on this one. He'd better do everything up to and including walk on water to impress me. Otherwise, I'll still believe it was a waste of money.

Well if your expectations are unrealistic, guess what....you're gonna be disappointed.

Based on his price tag, Modano will blow *realistic* expectations out of the water. Grab some popcorn, that third line is gonna entertain all season long!

[yzerman3cups]

a washed up modano will generate more pts on the 3rd line than darren helm would this year. that's all that matters.

BINGO!! I think people tend to over estimate what kind of points guys like Abdelkader/Helm/Eaves/Miller are going to get. I like all of those guys but if you think any will have the offensive output of Modano you are dreaming. These 4 guys are role players not point getters. All 4 are great system players but the only one with any kind of offensive upside might be Abdelkader but why not go for a shot at the cup with a better offensive player in Modano?!?!?

[cupforwings]

I'm with Aussie Wing on this one. He'd better do everything up to and including walk on water to impress me. Otherwise, I'll still believe it was a waste of money.

Really? Your saying he has to be Paval Datsyuk to impress you? come on now. The guy is 40 years old, the best American player of all time, and still has hockey left in him according to KEN HOLLAND, MIKE BABCOCK, and MIKE MODANO. He is better now then Darren Helm will ever be. The guy makes our third line a legit scoring threat. 1.25 for a player of his caliber is far from a waist of money... Who else did you want with that money?

[hillbillywingsfan]

Well, if your expectations are unrealistic, guess what....you're gonna be disappointed!

Based on his price tag, Modano will blow *realistic* expectations out of the water. Grab some popcorn, that third line is gonna entertain all season long!

[Kira]

I'm not convinced. Why don't I want him? He doesn't strike me as the type who will be willing to drop his ego at the door, he is in it for the money only, and I just don't like his attitude. The world does not revolve around him. Now if you think you can convince me otherwise, good luck. I'm gonna be extremely critical of him. I want to see him sacrificing his body out there every shift, every night. Block shots, hit people who get in his way, fight for his teammates...everything. Leave your ass out on that ice every night - then I might be convinced. But don't bet on it.

[SouthernWingsFan]

I'm not convinced. Why don't I want him? He doesn't strike me as the type who will be willing to drop his ego at the door, he is in it for the money only, and I just don't like his attitude. The world does not revolve around him. Now if you think you can convince me otherwise, good luck. I'm gonna be extremely critical of him. I want to see him sacrificing his body out there every shift, every night. Block shots, hit people who get in his way, fight for his teammates...everything. Leave your ass out on that ice every night - then I might be convinced. But don't bet on it.

Nobody was ever saying or implying that the world revolved around him.

[F.Michael]

Well, if your expectations are unrealistic, guess what....you're gonna be disappointed!

Based on his price tag, Modano will blow *realistic* expectations out of the water. Grab some popcorn, that third line is gonna entertain all season long!

No doubt.

From what little I've seen of Modano these past few seasons - he still has his skating legs which is the 1st thing to go when players age.

Add to that his overall skill is still well above average, and will compliment guys like Hudler/Cleary.

So far the majority of negative responses are surprisingly coming from Red Wing fans while most members of the hockey media think this was a great move by both Holland, and Modano...I agree with the latter.

I'm not convinced. Why don't I want him? He doesn't strike me as the type who will be willing to drop his ego at the door, he is in it for the money only, and I just don't like his attitude. The world does not revolve around him. Now if you think you can convince me otherwise, good luck. I'm gonna be extremely critical of him. I want to see him sacrificing his body out there every shift, every night. Block shots, hit people who get in his way, fight for his teammates...everything. Leave your ass out on that ice every night - then I might be convinced. But don't bet on it.

[hillbillywingsfan]

I'm not convinced. Why don't I want him? He doesn't strike me as the type who will be willing to drop his ego at the door, he is in it for the money only, and I just don't like his attitude. The world does not revolve around him. Now if you think you can convince me otherwise, good luck. I'm gonna be extremely critical of him. I want to see him sacrificing his body out there every shift, every night. Block shots, hit people who get in his way, fight for his teammates...everything. Leave your ass out on that ice every night - then I might be convinced. But don't bet on it.

ok so who would you of rather signed with the cap that we were givin and it work where we kept helm and abs?

[yzerman3cups]

I'm not convinced. Why don't I want him? He doesn't strike me as the type who will be willing to drop his ego at the door, he is in it for the money only, and I just don't like his attitude. The world does not revolve around him. Now if you think you can convince me otherwise, good luck. I'm gonna be extremely critical of him. I want to see him sacrificing his body out there every shift, every night. Block shots, hit people who get in his way, fight for his teammates...everything. Leave your ass out on that ice every night - then I might be convinced. But don't bet on it.

In it for the money?!?!? Did you want him to play for free? He's worth about $3 mill a year with his stats. He wasn't near that and is playing with an incentive laiden contract. Sounds to me like he already left the ego at the door and wants to prove he can fit in on the 3rd line. I think you have read too many newspaper articles and drew your conclusion before he even signed. His signing makes our 3rd line one of the best (if not the best) in the league.

[Jesusberg]

I'm not convinced. Why don't I want him? He doesn't strike me as the type who will be willing to drop his ego at the door, he is in it for the money only, and I just don't like his attitude. The world does not revolve around him. Now if you think you can convince me otherwise, good luck. I'm gonna be extremely critical of him. I want to see him sacrificing his body out there every shift, every night. Block shots, hit people who get in his way, fight for his teammates...everything. Leave your ass out on that ice every night - then I might be convinced. But don't bet on it.

He's in it for the money making 1.25 million? Give your head a shake, eesh. I think you have this preconceived notion of Mike Modano in your head, and so you're going to be anti-Modano regardless. I highly doubt Modano is going to throw a ton of hits, block shots or fight... he never really has. Modano is coming to Detroit to provide scoring depth. It's like you're just aiming at his all of his weak traits so you can find a reason to criticize the guy. If Mike Modano has a 20-20 season at 1.25 million... that's huge. When that happens I hope you'll at least acknowledge that he was a positive for the team.

[Esquire]

Maybe I'm alone in this statement but for some people here, this signing seems to be going over worse than the Bertuzzi signing last year. Welcome to Mo(dano)town!

[SouthernWingsFan]

Maybe I'm alone in this statement but for some people here, this signing seems to be going over worse than the Bertuzzi signing last year. Welcome to Mo(dano)town!

No kidding.

If you don't want somebody to be on the team or roster, give reasoning that makes sense. A lot of the reasoning for not wanting him here for the ones that don't want him seem to just be of personal vendettas, or broad paintbrush assumptions that he's too old or whatever.

He still produces given his age for the most part.

He's certainly a steal at just over a million given he can still produce on a decent basis.

He's even more of a steal than Bertuzzi's salary at present and I think he could probably produce more than Bertuzzi.

And I'm not sure I'm following that he is a lazy player or whatever. I didn't follow him in-depth in Dallas, but I'm just not sure what basis there is for that. It doesn't seem to make too much sense.

[puckloo39]

I was in Dallas for his 500th goal - the fans loved him so much there. I am sure there are a lot of sad people in Big D. It's sort of fun reading the newspapers where they are blustering saying they are fine without him. We'll see. No Mo, no Zubov... no heart, no soul. Turco gone? Meh.

I think Modano will fit into the Detroit locker room seamlessly, provide leadership to younger players, and will quickly become a fan favorite in Detroit. At least that is my hope for him. I am really only sad that Dallas didn't try to keep him, so he could end his career as a Star -- he is the face of the franchise after 20 years (starting as a North Star til present).

But that's not the way the world works anymore, I guess. Good luck, Mo!

[matemate]

Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Franzen
Cleary - Filppula - Bertuzzi
Hudler - Modano - Eaves
Abdelkader - Helm - Miller


Lidstrom - Rafalski
Kronwall - Stuart
Ericsson - Janik


Homer? Please no.

Edited by matemate, 05 August 2010 - 05:12 PM.

[mindfly]

Homer scored 25goals last season did he not.. let the guy surprise us yet again?