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NHL itinerary for the "Shanahan Summit"

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The NHL is holding their second "Shanahan Summit" the itinerary is below. Looks like they are considering several different options for overtime. I can't even imagine what 3 minutes of 2 on 2 would look like. <_< Here is the complete list of what they are looking at:

Wednesday August 18 (all times ET; subject to change)

10:00 a.m. – Noon

* Hybrid icing rule;

* No line change for team committing an offside;

* Crease reset rule;

* Face-off variation (face-off controlled by whistle in place of traditional puck drop);

* Overtime: three minutes of 4-on-4; three minutes of 3-on-3; three minutes of 2-on- 2 followed by shootout (5 players per team).

2:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m.

* Bigger crease;

* Verification goal line (additional line situated behind the goal line);

* Wider blue lines;

* Line changes zone in front of each bench;

* Face-off variations (infringement results in the offending player moving back further, three face-off dots down the middle of the ice);

* No icing the puck while shorthanded;

* OT – three minutes of 4-on-4; three minutes of 3-on-3; three minutes of 2-on-2 with long line changes; followed by three shooters per team shootout (if tied after three shots then players who have shot previously can shoot again).

Thursday August 19 (all times ET; subject to change)

9:30 a.m. - 11:30 a.m.

* No touch icing;

* Team that commits an offside infraction cannot make a line change and face-off is in offending team zone;

* Face-off variation: after a face-off violation, opposition center may choose his face-off opponent;

* Second referee located off the playing surface;

* Delayed penalty rule

* No icing the puck while shorthanded;

* OT – 4-on-4 (with long line change) followed by a shootout with five players.

1:30 p.m. - 3:00 p.m.

* Variations of special teams play;

* OT – 4-on-4 (with long line change).

Here is the link

Edit: corrected link

Edited by Frozen-Man

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PP goals are gonna be WAY up if pkers can't ice the puck.

Yeah I agree, that will make it incredibly hard for the team on the penalty kill. I would think it would raise PPG 15-20%.

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everything is mindblowingly retarded besides maybe the bench area thing for too many men calls and the verification line on the goal line (if it somehow helped)

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everything is mindblowingly retarded besides maybe the bench area thing for too many men calls and the verification line on the goal line (if it somehow helped)

I can't even imagine NHL hockey 2 on 2 and it just seems wrong for the ref to just blow the whistle instead of dropping the puck (plus that would add a whole new problem with the intent to blow the whistle rule :lol: )

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everything is mindblowingly retarded besides maybe the bench area thing for too many men calls and the verification line on the goal line (if it somehow helped)

That's putting it mildly. I agree that there are some changes that need to be made, but holy crap that's not some of them.

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The NHL is holding their second "Shanahan Summit" the itinerary is below. Looks like they are considering several different options for overtime. I can't even imagine what 3 minutes of 2 on 2 would look like. <_< Here is the complete list of what they are looking at:

Wednesday August 18 (all times ET; subject to change)

10:00 a.m. – Noon

* Hybrid icing rule;

* No line change for team committing an offside;

* Crease reset rule;

* Face-off variation (face-off controlled by whistle in place of traditional puck drop);

* Overtime: three minutes of 4-on-4; three minutes of 3-on-3; three minutes of 2-on- 2 followed by shootout (5 players per team).

2:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m.

* Bigger crease;

* Verification goal line (additional line situated behind the goal line);

* Wider blue lines;

* Line changes zone in front of each bench;

* Face-off variations (infringement results in the offending player moving back further, three face-off dots down the middle of the ice);

* No icing the puck while shorthanded;

* OT – three minutes of 4-on-4; three minutes of 3-on-3; three minutes of 2-on-2 with long line changes; followed by three shooters per team shootout (if tied after three shots then players who have shot previously can shoot again).

Thursday August 19 (all times ET; subject to change)

9:30 a.m. - 11:30 a.m.

* No touch icing;

* Team that commits an offside infraction cannot make a line change and face-off is in offending team zone;

* Face-off variation: after a face-off violation, opposition center may choose his face-off opponent;

* Second referee located off the playing surface;

* Delayed penalty rule

* No icing the puck while shorthanded;

* OT – 4-on-4 (with long line change) followed by a shootout with five players.

1:30 p.m. - 3:00 p.m.

* Variations of special teams play;

* OT – 4-on-4 (with long line change).

Here is the link

Edit: corrected link

I think the verification goal line in the net is long overdue and is a good idea. How would it work though? Would they have a second line exactly the distance of a full puck behind the original goaline? that way if any part of the puck touches that line its a defenite goal? Or how else would they be working it? That seems to make the most sense to me, but maybe there is a better idea out there.

The 2 on 2 overtime seems crazy and probably wont happen, mainly because people would get tired reallllly quick haha

Also, i dont think the no icing rule on the PK is going to go through. How else are teams going to get any relief when on the PK to get a line change? Taking away the icing of the puck would almost gurantee a goal on the PP everytime, especially if the pk is a 5 on 3. I understand that it will increase goals and more goals = more excitement= more money, but you got to draw the line somewhere. I think being down a man for 2 minutes is penatly enough rather than taking away the only way of getting releif when the Pk'ers have been on the ice for over a minute.

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I think the verification goal line in the net is long overdue and is a good idea. How would it work though? Would they have a second line exactly the distance of a full puck behind the original goaline? that way if any part of the puck touches that line its a defenite goal? Or how else would they be working it? That seems to make the most sense to me, but maybe there is a better idea out there.

I'm not too sure that this would be helpful in all cases. What I think of when reading this is, when a puck is on it's side or even not completely flat on the ice, that second line wouldn't be too helpful. There has to be another way.

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I'm not too sure that this would be helpful in all cases. What I think of when reading this is, when a puck is on it's side or even not completely flat on the ice, that second line wouldn't be too helpful. There has to be another way.

That's what I was thinking, I wonder what exactly they mean by a goal verification line.

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Hmmm I thought the blue line was already going all the way across...

Yeah, I guess they meant thicker, not sure if its the offensive zone or the neutral zone (or both) they are going to decrease.

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A lot of these seem like ideas for a video game, not actually plausible changes to improve the sport. Particularly the "Overtime: three minutes of 4-on-4; three minutes of 3-on-3; three minutes of 2-on- 2 followed by shootout (5 players per team)." which is just ridiculous.

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Hybrid icing rule, ref off the ice, goal verification line, line change zone...all could be good.

What would be the point of changing the blue line though?

The rest are stupid.

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I'm not too sure that this would be helpful in all cases. What I think of when reading this is, when a puck is on it's side or even not completely flat on the ice, that second line wouldn't be too helpful. There has to be another way.

Officials that aren't blind, better people in Toronto's war room. Problem solved.

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Hybrid icing rule, ref off the ice, goal verification line, line change zone...all could be good.

What would be the point of changing the blue line though?

The rest are stupid.

I agree. Those are the only ones that would actually improve the game.

They are beginning to treat hockey like some experimental sport. I hate it.

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* Bigger crease; thumbup.gif

* Verification goal line (additional line situated behind the goal line);thumbup.gif

* Wider blue lines; blink.gif

* Face-off variation: after a face-off violation, opposition center may choose his face-off opponent;thumbdown.gif ya pick a defenceman and screw up the other teams positioning

* Second referee located off the playing surface;thumbup.gifthumbup.gifthumbup.gifthumbup.gifthumbup.gifthumbup.gif

* No icing the puck while shorthanded; ranting.gif but I think hockey minds will find ways around that eg bang it off the boards at an angle where it wont ice or once defending team gets the puck they will learn to move it out fast and get it to a guy breaking down the ice he will skate it down and leave it in the corner

I think the instigator rule and clearing the puck over the boards penalties should be looked at as well.

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The NHL is holding their second "Shanahan Summit" the itinerary is below. Looks like they are considering several different options for overtime. I can't even imagine what 3 minutes of 2 on 2 would look like. <_< Here is the complete list of what they are looking at:

Wednesday August 18 (all times ET; subject to change)

10:00 a.m. – Noon

* Hybrid icing rule;

* No line change for team committing an offside;

* Crease reset rule;

* Face-off variation (face-off controlled by whistle in place of traditional puck drop);

* Overtime: three minutes of 4-on-4; three minutes of 3-on-3; three minutes of 2-on- 2 followed by shootout (5 players per team).

2:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m.

* Bigger crease;

* Verification goal line (additional line situated behind the goal line);

* Wider blue lines;

* Line changes zone in front of each bench;

* Face-off variations (infringement results in the offending player moving back further, three face-off dots down the middle of the ice);

* No icing the puck while shorthanded;

* OT – three minutes of 4-on-4; three minutes of 3-on-3; three minutes of 2-on-2 with long line changes; followed by three shooters per team shootout (if tied after three shots then players who have shot previously can shoot again).

Thursday August 19 (all times ET; subject to change)

9:30 a.m. - 11:30 a.m.

* No touch icing;

* Team that commits an offside infraction cannot make a line change and face-off is in offending team zone;

* Face-off variation: after a face-off violation, opposition center may choose his face-off opponent;

* Second referee located off the playing surface;

* Delayed penalty rule

* No icing the puck while shorthanded;

* OT – 4-on-4 (with long line change) followed by a shootout with five players.

1:30 p.m. - 3:00 p.m.

* Variations of special teams play;

* OT – 4-on-4 (with long line change).

Here is the link

Edit: corrected link

A lot of terrible ideas there:

1: A complicated, ridiculous OT setup. Every three minutes taking a player off the ice, then a shootout? I guess I fail to see what's wrong with the current OT setup. Let's not make this absurd. No icing while killing penalties just means every powerplay will result in a goal. Why not just give a penalty shot instead of power plays then? And that verification goal line won't solve anything. I really don't see the point of this. If the puck is over the goal line it's a goal. Having a referee off the playing surface is absurd, too. So now we'll have phantom calls from a guy who's not even on the ice and can't see everything going on? Smart move.

I hope they reject almost all of these ideas.

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I don't see how the verification line will help anything. For example, goalie collapses in net covering both lines and takes away vision of the puck. It would be no different than having one line in that situation.

I don't hate the idea of no touch icing. It's exciting watching two players race for the puck to negate icing, but it is incredibly dangerous and it would suck to have a career ended on a play like that. Pros/cons for that one for sure.

Pk should be able to ice the puck.

OT changes are stupid.

They need to sort out reviewable plays. ie. EVERY goal scenario should be reviewable. I can't see people abusing it, and if they do I'm sure they could implement some kind of penatly for doing so. Either that or give each coach 3 review calls a game etc. There are way too many legit goals called off each year. There really shouldn't be any.

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A lot of these seem like ideas for a video game, not actually plausible changes to improve the sport. Particularly the "Overtime: three minutes of 4-on-4; three minutes of 3-on-3; three minutes of 2-on- 2 followed by shootout (5 players per team)." which is just ridiculous.

Agreed.

Maybe fun for video games, but bad for the NHL.

Simpler is almost always better, and most of these ideas complicate things.

Like instead of the stepped down version of OT, just make it 10 minutes of 4 on 4.

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They need to sort out reviewable plays. ie. EVERY goal scenario should be reviewable. I can't see people abusing it, and if they do I'm sure they could implement some kind of penatly for doing so. Either that or give each coach 3 review calls a game etc. There are way too many legit goals called off each year. There really shouldn't be any.

Every goal is already reviewed in Toronto. I'm not sure how they can improve that system, outside of getting better reviewers.

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Every goal is already reviewed in Toronto. I'm not sure how they can improve that system, outside of getting better reviewers.

Yes I'm aware of that but we still have incidents like the hossa no goal in 09. Video review should overrule everything. Anyone could see that the call on the ice was ridiculous and video evidence should overturn it.

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