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[Hockeytown0001]

no love for douggie weight?

I'd say he belongs in the U.S. Hockey Hall, but the Hockey Hall of Fame would be a nice debate.

[yzerman3cups]

I think for Osgood to get into the Hall one other former Wing has to get in before him and thats Mike Vernon. I personally don't think Cujo belongs in the Hall just because of his win totals but Vernon has the hardware and is usually considerered but not voted in yet. Vernon gets in Osgood will get in eventually in a weak year.

[henrik40]

I think it's going to be tough for Ozzie to get in because of the media's view of him. I think it's a joke that they continually call him a product of the Wings system, which I'm sure is partly true. They conveniently ignore him backstopping the Isles to a playoff birth as well as the Blues. He's been a winner everywhere he's been.

[Hockeytown0001]

I'd support Ozzie to the Hall - but I'm not sure how many others would.

[yzerman3cups]

Along with Vernon the other multiple cup winner that's not in is Tom Barasso. 2 time cup winner but still no HOF!

[NomadFromKazoo]

I think it's going to be tough for Ozzie to get in because of the media's view of him. I think it's a joke that they continually call him a product of the Wings system, which I'm sure is partly true. They conveniently ignore him backstopping the Isles to a playoff birth as well as the Blues. He's been a winner everywhere he's been.

I have a hard time supporting him. He was so promising as a kid, but every time we handed him the job he flamed out. He gave up so many soft goals past the blue line other teams started shooting it regularly, and sadly it worked too much for them to stop. His best playoffs seemed to be when nothing was expected of him. I just don't see it as a HOF career. I like him and I'll be happy if he gets in because he's a good guy and a good Wing, but even if he does I won't think he really deserved to be in the HOF.

[55fan]

What argument would there be for Guerin? His career best is less than 70pts I think. Even if he gets to 500 goals, which I think he has about a 0.1% chance of doing, I don't think he has a shot. Honestly, I'm not even sure if Guerin is going to be playing this season.

I don't think Guerin will actually get in. I was just thinking of who was still playing that might be in contention other than the ones GMR listed. I was pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel.

But since you asked... the things that made me think of him are:
First Latino in the NHL
Only player with 20 goal seasons with 7 different teams
Stanley Cups, Olympic Silver, World Cup, and all-star appearances (2000-1 MVP) plus having been a captain (albeit for only 2 years)

In short, he's not HOF material, but he sure did have a better career than a lot of guys.

[GMRwings1983]

I don't think Guerin will actually get in. I was just thinking of who was still playing that might be in contention other than the ones GMR listed. I was pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel.

But since you asked... the things that made me think of him are:
First Latino in the NHL
Only player with 20 goal seasons with 7 different teams
Stanley Cups, Olympic Silver, World Cup, and all-star appearances (2000-1 MVP) plus having been a captain (albeit for only 2 years)

In short, he's not HOF material, but he sure did have a better career than a lot of guys.

Guerin is Latino?

[55fan]

Guerin is Latino?

Si. He's half Nicaraguan and half Irish. The former being pertinent to his Latin-ness, of course.

[eva unit zero]

As of February 10th, Osgood was tied for the active lead in shutouts with Roberto Luongo at 50. Osgood is about to clear 400 wins as well. Hall of Fame is a mark Osgood is going to clear this season.

[egroen]

As of February 10th, Osgood was tied for the active lead in shutouts with Roberto Luongo at 50. Osgood is about to clear 400 wins as well. Hall of Fame is a mark Osgood is going to clear this season.

The problem is there are so many others ahead of him and not in yet. Skaters and goalies.

You know Belfour is going to have to wait, and he is a given... Then you've got Vachon, Barrasso, Vernon plus a lot of skaters waiting. If osgood gets in, I think he waits a long time.

[toby91_ca]

As of February 10th, Osgood was tied for the active lead in shutouts with Roberto Luongo at 50. Osgood is about to clear 400 wins as well. Hall of Fame is a mark Osgood is going to clear this season.

You know, I'm not sure I'd vote for Osgood, at least not initially, there are far too many other guys ahead of him, as others have stated. And honestly, I just don't see him as a Hall of Fame guy, I don't know why, but I've just never seen him as being one of the best goalies of his generation. I'm thinking a lot of the voters may feel the same way.

Joseph has far more wins than Osgood and Joesph also has 51 shutouts and I don't think he's going to get in. I know Osgood has the cups, but I wonder how much value voters will place on those, considering the teams he was playing for (i.e. they would consider whether he had to carry a team to the cup or not).

[eva unit zero]

You know, I'm not sure I'd vote for Osgood, at least not initially, there are far too many other guys ahead of him, as others have stated. And honestly, I just don't see him as a Hall of Fame guy, I don't know why, but I've just never seen him as being one of the best goalies of his generation. I'm thinking a lot of the voters may feel the same way.

Joseph has far more wins than Osgood and Joesph also has 51 shutouts and I don't think he's going to get in. I know Osgood has the cups, but I wonder how much value voters will place on those, considering the teams he was playing for (i.e. they would consider whether he had to carry a team to the cup or not).

The retired Joseph might make it into the HoF while Osgood is still playing in the NHL.

But Osgood is more deserving than Joseph. And this coming season could especially play into that if Osgood does well.