Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

What Current NHL Players are Locks for the Hall of Fame?


  • Please log in to reply
72 replies to this topic

#61 Hockeytown0001

Hockeytown0001

    Legend

  • HoF Booster
  • 22,387 posts
  • Location:A2, Michigan

Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:38 AM

no love for douggie weight?


I'd say he belongs in the U.S. Hockey Hall, but the Hockey Hall of Fame would be a nice debate.

"All done? Five bucks." - Pavel Datsyuk after an interview
"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman

 

 


#62 yzerman3cups

yzerman3cups

    Prospect

  • Member
  • 35 posts

Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:27 AM

I think for Osgood to get into the Hall one other former Wing has to get in before him and thats Mike Vernon. I personally don't think Cujo belongs in the Hall just because of his win totals but Vernon has the hardware and is usually considerered but not voted in yet. Vernon gets in Osgood will get in eventually in a weak year.

#63 henrik40

henrik40

    Lebda Sucks

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 812 posts
  • Location:Dallas, TX

Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:34 AM

I think it's going to be tough for Ozzie to get in because of the media's view of him. I think it's a joke that they continually call him a product of the Wings system, which I'm sure is partly true. They conveniently ignore him backstopping the Isles to a playoff birth as well as the Blues. He's been a winner everywhere he's been.

#64 Hockeytown0001

Hockeytown0001

    Legend

  • HoF Booster
  • 22,387 posts
  • Location:A2, Michigan

Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:50 AM

I'd support Ozzie to the Hall - but I'm not sure how many others would.

"All done? Five bucks." - Pavel Datsyuk after an interview
"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman

 

 


#65 yzerman3cups

yzerman3cups

    Prospect

  • Member
  • 35 posts

Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:54 AM

Along with Vernon the other multiple cup winner that's not in is Tom Barasso. 2 time cup winner but still no HOF!

#66 NomadFromKazoo

NomadFromKazoo

    Kaz

  • Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 500 posts
  • Location:North Carolina

Posted 11 August 2010 - 01:08 PM

I think it's going to be tough for Ozzie to get in because of the media's view of him. I think it's a joke that they continually call him a product of the Wings system, which I'm sure is partly true. They conveniently ignore him backstopping the Isles to a playoff birth as well as the Blues. He's been a winner everywhere he's been.

I have a hard time supporting him. He was so promising as a kid, but every time we handed him the job he flamed out. He gave up so many soft goals past the blue line other teams started shooting it regularly, and sadly it worked too much for them to stop. His best playoffs seemed to be when nothing was expected of him. I just don't see it as a HOF career. I like him and I'll be happy if he gets in because he's a good guy and a good Wing, but even if he does I won't think he really deserved to be in the HOF.
Frank Herbert: Fear is the mind-killer

Groucho Marx: Sincerity is the key to success. If you can fake that, you've got it made

George Patton: If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking

Doctor Who: Don't turn your back, don't look away, and don't blink

#67 55fan

55fan

    All mine 'til 2-0-1-9

  • HoF Booster
  • 12,738 posts
  • Location:Fargo, ND

Posted 11 August 2010 - 03:03 PM

What argument would there be for Guerin? His career best is less than 70pts I think. Even if he gets to 500 goals, which I think he has about a 0.1% chance of doing, I don't think he has a shot. Honestly, I'm not even sure if Guerin is going to be playing this season.

I don't think Guerin will actually get in. I was just thinking of who was still playing that might be in contention other than the ones GMR listed. I was pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel.

But since you asked... the things that made me think of him are:
First Latino in the NHL
Only player with 20 goal seasons with 7 different teams
Stanley Cups, Olympic Silver, World Cup, and all-star appearances (2000-1 MVP) plus having been a captain (albeit for only 2 years)

In short, he's not HOF material, but he sure did have a better career than a lot of guys.

Money on the board:  Current total: $6

$1 for a goal by any current Wing after whom I have named a hamster.  An additional $5 for a series-clinching goal scored by any current Wing after whom I have named a hamster. $5 if the other team fails to score against a current Wing goalie after whom I have named a hamster.

Hamsters I have had:  (current Wings highlighted)

Henrik Pavel Tomas Nicklas Dominik

Niklas Matthew Daniel Robert

Johan Andreas Valtteri Jonathan

Andrew Patrick Ian Todd

Jordin Damien Gustav James


#68 GMRwings1983

GMRwings1983

    The Killer is Me

  • Silver Booster
  • 20,295 posts
  • Location:Jerkwater, USA

Posted 11 August 2010 - 07:18 PM

I don't think Guerin will actually get in. I was just thinking of who was still playing that might be in contention other than the ones GMR listed. I was pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel.

But since you asked... the things that made me think of him are:
First Latino in the NHL
Only player with 20 goal seasons with 7 different teams
Stanley Cups, Olympic Silver, World Cup, and all-star appearances (2000-1 MVP) plus having been a captain (albeit for only 2 years)

In short, he's not HOF material, but he sure did have a better career than a lot of guys.


:blink:

Guerin is Latino?
According to my profile, my reputation is excellent. LOL.

#69 55fan

55fan

    All mine 'til 2-0-1-9

  • HoF Booster
  • 12,738 posts
  • Location:Fargo, ND

Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:22 PM

:blink:

Guerin is Latino?

Si. He's half Nicaraguan and half Irish. The former being pertinent to his Latin-ness, of course.

Money on the board:  Current total: $6

$1 for a goal by any current Wing after whom I have named a hamster.  An additional $5 for a series-clinching goal scored by any current Wing after whom I have named a hamster. $5 if the other team fails to score against a current Wing goalie after whom I have named a hamster.

Hamsters I have had:  (current Wings highlighted)

Henrik Pavel Tomas Nicklas Dominik

Niklas Matthew Daniel Robert

Johan Andreas Valtteri Jonathan

Andrew Patrick Ian Todd

Jordin Damien Gustav James


#70 eva unit zero

eva unit zero

    Save the Princess...Save the World

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,734 posts

Posted 13 August 2010 - 12:47 AM

As of February 10th, Osgood was tied for the active lead in shutouts with Roberto Luongo at 50. Osgood is about to clear 400 wins as well. Hall of Fame is a mark Osgood is going to clear this season.
"I've never seen a warlock do that without his magic."
"I once devoured a monk's soul. It tasted like chocolate."

#71 egroen

egroen

    Hall-of-Famer

  • Gold Booster
  • 4,619 posts
  • Location:Michigan

Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:58 AM

As of February 10th, Osgood was tied for the active lead in shutouts with Roberto Luongo at 50. Osgood is about to clear 400 wins as well. Hall of Fame is a mark Osgood is going to clear this season.

The problem is there are so many others ahead of him and not in yet. Skaters and goalies.

You know Belfour is going to have to wait, and he is a given... Then you've got Vachon, Barrasso, Vernon plus a lot of skaters waiting. If osgood gets in, I think he waits a long time.
Red Kelly #4 and Larry Aurie #6 belong in the rafters!!!

"For my game, I don't need to score the goal," Konstantinov once explained. "I need someone to start thinking about me and forgetting about scoring goals."

#72 toby91_ca

toby91_ca

    Legend

  • Gold Booster
  • 8,413 posts

Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:00 AM

As of February 10th, Osgood was tied for the active lead in shutouts with Roberto Luongo at 50. Osgood is about to clear 400 wins as well. Hall of Fame is a mark Osgood is going to clear this season.

You know, I'm not sure I'd vote for Osgood, at least not initially, there are far too many other guys ahead of him, as others have stated. And honestly, I just don't see him as a Hall of Fame guy, I don't know why, but I've just never seen him as being one of the best goalies of his generation. I'm thinking a lot of the voters may feel the same way.

Joseph has far more wins than Osgood and Joesph also has 51 shutouts and I don't think he's going to get in. I know Osgood has the cups, but I wonder how much value voters will place on those, considering the teams he was playing for (i.e. they would consider whether he had to carry a team to the cup or not).

#73 eva unit zero

eva unit zero

    Save the Princess...Save the World

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,734 posts

Posted 14 August 2010 - 12:31 PM

You know, I'm not sure I'd vote for Osgood, at least not initially, there are far too many other guys ahead of him, as others have stated. And honestly, I just don't see him as a Hall of Fame guy, I don't know why, but I've just never seen him as being one of the best goalies of his generation. I'm thinking a lot of the voters may feel the same way.

Joseph has far more wins than Osgood and Joesph also has 51 shutouts and I don't think he's going to get in. I know Osgood has the cups, but I wonder how much value voters will place on those, considering the teams he was playing for (i.e. they would consider whether he had to carry a team to the cup or not).


The retired Joseph might make it into the HoF while Osgood is still playing in the NHL.

But Osgood is more deserving than Joseph. And this coming season could especially play into that if Osgood does well.

"I've never seen a warlock do that without his magic."
"I once devoured a monk's soul. It tasted like chocolate."





Similar Topics Collapse

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users