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#1 Paolino99

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:40 PM

At this moment how our PP & PK lines will be composed in your opinion?

for me:

PP1 Zetterberg Datsyuk Holmstrom Lidstrom Rafalski
PP2 Franzen Modano Bertuzzi Hudler Kronwall

PK1 Miller Helm Lidstrom Stuart
PK2 Filppula Eaves Salei Kronwall
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:43 PM

Kronwall i would avoid playing the pk as much as possible just because of his injury history but then again he doesn't block a lot of shots and he wears a visor but still... i would also see how abdelkader could play the pk, i know i heard babcock talking about it as well..Also keep in mind that Miller might get traded/Waived, too.

Edited by mindfly, 13 August 2010 - 05:44 PM.


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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:49 PM

Abdelkader will get pk time for sure IF he signs already!!!!! Posted Image

Kronner wouldn't do a lot of pk work as mindfly states above but I think the most notable thing here is that Modo will be on the point with Kronner. Should be a lovely sight to see. 3 years in a row now with a forward on the point and all of them have been whipping boys on LGW lol. Shall see how that pans out.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:51 PM

Modano can just play on his 20years of nhl experience to get the job done on the pp, mark my words :thumbup:

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:54 PM

PP2:
Franzen Filppula Hudler
Kronwall Modano.

PK1:
Helm Eaves
Lidstrom Stuart

PK2:
Filppula Cleary
Kronwall Salei

Edited by Z and D for the C, 13 August 2010 - 05:56 PM.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:55 PM

PP2:
Franzen Filppula Hudler
Kronwall Modano

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:07 PM

PP2:
Franzen Filppula Hudler
Kronwall Modano.

PK1:
Helm Eaves
Lidstrom Stuart

PK2:
Filppula Cleary
Kronwall Salei

Good lines,really...but Bertuzzi?

Modano will play right defense and Hudler right wing in PP?

Edited by Paolino99, 13 August 2010 - 06:41 PM.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:55 PM

my take on the PP and PK....


PP #1 Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Holmstrom/Cleary switching in
Rafalski, Lidstrom

PP #2 Hudler, Filppula, Franzen/Bertuzzi switching in
Kronwall, Modano

PK #1 Helm, Eaves
Stuart, Kronwall

PK #2 Abdelkader, Cleary/Miller if hes still around
Salei, Ericsson/ Kindl when hes playing


be about it...
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:05 PM

I'll post what I initially thought this thread would be about.

I'm guessing we'll be ranked #1 on the PP and #15 on the PK.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:20 PM

Whatever it is, I hope we don't use 9 forwards to kill penalties anymore.

It kills the familiarity and rhythm of always having the same penalty killers. I mean, it's good to have depth when players are injured and all, but to rotate that many forwards all the time isn't good. I think it had a negative effect on us somewhat last year.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:33 PM

Whatever it is, I hope we don't use 9 forwards to kill penalties anymore.

It kills the familiarity and rhythm of always having the same penalty killers. I mean, it's good to have depth when players are injured and all, but to rotate that many forwards all the time isn't good. I think it had a negative effect on us somewhat last year.


I'm almost positive Babs didn't do that this past year. I saw that he always had the first unit come back out after the second unit's shift. You'd have Helm-Eaves, then Miller-Cleary and then Helm-Eaves went back out again after them, which they were then followed by Zetterberg-Filppula.

But iirc, Babs did use a lot of forwards in the 08-09 season. It's when they had something like Draper-Cleary, Filppula-Maltby?, Zetterberg-Franzen, Datsyuk-Hossa.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:37 PM

my take on the PP and PK....


PP #1 Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Holmstrom/Cleary switching in
Rafalski, Lidstrom

PP #2 Hudler, Filppula, Franzen/Bertuzzi switching in
Kronwall, Modano

PK #1 Helm, Eaves
Stuart, Kronwall

PK #2 Abdelkader, Cleary/Miller if hes still around
Salei, Ericsson/ Kindl when hes playing


be about it...
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Why on earth would Bertuzzi ever switch in for Franzen if both are healthy? Holmstrom or Hudler MAYBE, but Franzen is a legit 30-40 goal scorer.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:44 PM

The PP rotations are pretty clear. The PK rotations, however, are not in terms of the forwards because the Wings have so many players that take pride in the PK. It's a significant part of their game and PK TOI makes them feel good about themselves; they feel more involved in the game; and thus play more aggressively.

I know Babs said that Abby will get every opportunity he can to show he can be on the PK but until we see how he plays there at the NHL level I think I'd personally go with a rotation of:

Helm-Eaves
Zetterberg-Cleary
Datsyuk-Filppula
Helm-Eaves

And on the back end I'd like to see Lidstrom-Salei on the first unit to keep the familiarity between Kronwall-Stuart

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:46 PM

The ones I'm using for NHL 10 are...

PP

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Lidstrom-Rafalski

Hudler-Filppula-Franzen
Kronwall-Modano

PK

Helm-Abdelkader
Salei-Stuart

Datsyuk-Cleary
Lidstrom-Ericsson

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:17 PM

How do you not have the number one defensive forward in the NHL. I get he needs rest maybe it would depend on when it is in a game and how close the game is, but Dats would be on my 1st pk

At this moment how our PP & PK lines will be composed in your opinion?

for me:

PP1 Zetterberg Datsyuk Holmstrom Lidstrom Rafalski
PP2 Franzen Modano Bertuzzi Hudler Kronwall

PK1 Miller Helm Lidstrom Stuart
PK2 Filppula Eaves Salei Kronwall


Edited by blgillett, 13 August 2010 - 08:21 PM.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:29 PM

Kind of shocked Hank hasn't made it to others PK combos. Defensively and pure hustle...who better I say.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:44 PM

Kind of shocked Hank hasn't made it to others PK combos. Defensively and pure hustle...who better I say.


They believe that he should devote some of that energy to scoring and whatnot. But people need to realize that Z takes A LOT of pride and enjoyment out of killing penalties. He wants to be in that rotation and it helps him get into the game. He loves being a player who plays great in all situations. He definitely should be in that rotation.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:47 PM

Why on earth would Bertuzzi ever switch in for Franzen if both are healthy? Holmstrom or Hudler MAYBE, but Franzen is a legit 30-40 goal scorer.



because one might be tired or not clicking or one might have a hot hand that night?

relax...there can be many reasons why someone may switch in and out...

its pretty simple
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:58 PM

How do you not have the number one defensive forward in the NHL. I get he needs rest maybe it would depend on when it is in a game and how close the game is, but Dats would be on my 1st pk


Pretty sure Datsyuk hasn't been a mainstay on the PK for a while now.


Il take a shot at the PP.

Assuming ZDH would be a 5 on 5 line, I'd throw something else out there.

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Hudler
Lids-Raf

Franzen-Flip-Holmer/Clear/Bert (whoever is hot)
Kronwall-Modano



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Posted 13 August 2010 - 09:08 PM

PK #2 Abdelkader, Cleary/Miller if hes still around
Salei, Ericsson/ Kindl when hes playing


I highly doubt anyone would want Kindl on the Pk. My idea is

PP1 - Z/Dats/Franzen
Raffi-Lids

PP2 - Huds/Flip/(Bert/Homer/Cleary)
Kronwall/Modano

PK 1 - Eaves/Helm
Lids/Salei

PK 2 - Abs/(Flip/Z/Dats)
Kronwall/Stuart





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