MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 Tomas Kaberle's no-trade clause has kicked back in, meaning trade speculation involving him is over....for a couple days, anyways. Leafs sporting 8 NHL defencemen (Or 7, plus Jeff Finger) heading into camp... Dion Phaneuf Mike Komisarek Tomas Kaberle Luke Schenn Francois Beauchemin Carl Gunnarsson Brett Lebda Jeff Finger Plus younger players like Korbinian Holzer and Keith Aulie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) Tomas Kaberle's no-trade clause has kicked back in, meaning trade speculation involving him is over....for a couple days, anyways. Leafs sporting 8 NHL defencemen (Or 7, plus Jeff Finger) heading into camp... Dion Phaneuf Mike Komisarek Tomas Kaberle Luke Schenn Francois Beauchemin Carl Gunnarsson Brett Lebda Jeff Finger Plus younger players like Korbinian Holzer and Keith Aulie. You mean 6 plus Jeff Finger and a pylon... I mean, Brett Lebda That's actually a pretty damn good top 5 and Gunnarsson isn't a slouch either and is still developing... I still can't believe they signed Lebda and for that price, that was EASILY one of the worst signings of the off-season and they will regret it BIG time when he's in the press box, eating up cap... Edited August 16, 2010 by stevkrause 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 You mean 6 plus Jeff Finger and a pylon... I mean, Brett Lebda That's actually a pretty damn good top 5... I still can't believe they signed Lebda and for that price, one of the worst signings of the off-season and they will regret it BIG time when he's in the press box, eating up cap... Don't underrate Gunnarsson. He was better than most of those guys last year at times. Steady and reliable. He's got that Swedish poise. 1 zettie85 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 Don't underrate Gunnarsson. He was better than most of those guys last year at times. Steady and reliable. He's got that Swedish poise. I think you were replying as I was editing... look at the time stamps, haha, I went back and edited it as soon as I posted it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 Regardless of who they trade, the Leafs have a great defensive unit. Hopefully they can move Lebda and pick up some scoring before the season starts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 Regardless of who they trade, the Leafs have a great defensive unit. Hopefully they can move Lebda and pick up some scoring before the season starts. Lebda appears to be press-box bound at this point, though somebody is bound to get hurt. Not trading Kaberle has certainly opened up a spot in the top-six for Kadri. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 Lebda appears to be press-box bound at this point, though somebody is bound to get hurt. Not trading Kaberle has certainly opened up a spot in the top-six for Kadri. Do you know which defensemen (if any) the Leafs are going to try to trade now? I followed the Leafs a bit last year (watched ~30 of the games), and I'd like to see them contend for a playoff spot as they're one of the few teams in the East I like. The East will be fun to watch this year (especially the Atlantic) as the arms race (enforcers) this summer was ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 Do you know which defensemen (if any) the Leafs are going to try to trade now? I followed the Leafs a bit last year (watched ~30 of the games), and I'd like to see them contend for a playoff spot as they're one of the few teams in the East I like. The East will be fun to watch this year (especially the Atlantic) as the arms race (enforcers) this summer was ridiculous. I really don't see them trading any of them right now. I think Kaberle gets shopped at the deadline and this whole fiasco starts up again. Komisarek, Beauchemin really aren't worth trading because of the money they are owed. Kaberle is obvious. Lebda just got here. Schenn & Gunnarsson are too young to trade unless you get an offer you can't refuse. Phaneuf is the captain. Finger is an anchor and is probably bound for the AHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 Strong defence, good goalies, weak forwards. Bozak, Kadri, Kessel, Versteeg, Kulemin, Grabovski? Not a very good top6, is Burke looking at making any other moves Mack? Dont think he's quite satisfied yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 finger over lebda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 kaberle didn't get moved because he only has 1 year left on his contract and it's open season with the UFA anyways. if a team trades toronto a 1st rounder and a good player and kaberle doesn't sign with them after the season, then they've wasted potential for a guy that's not gonna put them over the top as contenders most likely anyways. good job by the other GM's not blowing their wad on kaberle. 1 Original-Six reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 Strong defence, good goalies, weak forwards. Bozak, Kadri, Kessel, Versteeg, Kulemin, Grabovski? Not a very good top6, is Burke looking at making any other moves Mack? Dont think he's quite satisfied yet. I really have no idea. Kaberle was the one expendable asset Burke had to get another forward, so I have no clue what the next move is, if there is one. Free agent pickings are pretty slim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Ruff 47 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 I'm pretty shocked he wasn't traded actually. I think Burke dropped the ball, he gambled at high stakes, lost, and now he has to try and save face. Kaberle could walk at the end of the season for nothing (and I think that's more likely than him re-signing). Hopefully T-Kabs OK's a deadline deal, signs an extension (which would require someone like Komisarek be moved you would think) or it's going to hit the fan in Leaf Nation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 I'm pretty shocked he wasn't traded actually. I think Burke dropped the ball, he gambled at high stakes, lost, and now he has to try and save face. Kaberle could walk at the end of the season for nothing (and I think that's more likely than him re-signing). Hopefully T-Kabs OK's a deadline deal, signs an extension (which would require someone like Komisarek be moved you would think) or it's going to hit the fan in Leaf Nation. yup, pretty much what i was getting at. burke wants too much for kaberle and he's gonna get nothing when he walks as a UFA next summer. burke was offered ryan malone, and he was offered a 1st and some D prospect by the sharks apparently. personally, i would have taken the D prospect and a 1st rounder and got kaberle off the books. yzerman wants to get rid of malone and his salary that feaster did before he got canned so he would have atleast traded salaries and had kaberle's off the books to either let him walk or sign a new deal. either way, leafs fans are gonna be pissed if they get nothing at all for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquire 324 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 Luke Schenn for Bobby Ryan. Straight up, no chaser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 yup, pretty much what i was getting at. burke wants too much for kaberle and he's gonna get nothing when he walks as a UFA next summer. burke was offered ryan malone, and he was offered a 1st and some D prospect by the sharks apparently. personally, i would have taken the D prospect and a 1st rounder and got kaberle off the books. yzerman wants to get rid of malone and his salary that feaster did before he got canned so he would have atleast traded salaries and had kaberle's off the books to either let him walk or sign a new deal. either way, leafs fans are gonna be pissed if they get nothing at all for him. Was it ever confirmed that Burke got those offers? I thought it was just the usual B.S. on blogs and Twitter. I would rather lose Kaberle for nothing than take on Ryan Malone's contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted August 16, 2010 What happen with the mike van ryn? this is the last i remember and this was long ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 Was it ever confirmed that Burke got those offers? I thought it was just the usual B.S. on blogs and Twitter. I would rather lose Kaberle for nothing than take on Ryan Malone's contract. some hardcore leafs fan that i work with. take it for what it's worth. there had to have been some sort of deal that wasn't that bad. something burke is gonna look back on and say....f***! why am i such a fat-headed prick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquire 324 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 What happen with the mike van ryn? this is the last i remember and this was long ago Retired and coaching. http://www.thestar.com/article/840370--leafs-defenceman-mike-van-ryn-retires Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 From TSN : "While a number of clubs made offers to trade for Tomas, none of them reflected Tomas's value to our team," Leafs general manager Brian Burke said in a statement. "I understand a period like this is stressful to the player, and we are pleased that there is a resolution, and we can all continue to prepare for the coming season."... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 I think Grabovski is still being shopped around. The defense is stellar. No reason to trade Bauchemin or Komisarek. Burke seems to like Schenn. The defense situation will be interesting. Burke seems to be looking for a top 6 forward with a bit of an edge, and that's what he was after when negotiating a potential Kaberle deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted August 16, 2010 This protracted saga is the number one reason I thank God the Burke isn't our GM. Imagine Kenny pulling this kind of crap with, say, Franzen? Never happen in a million years. Kaberle doesn't deserve the soap opera Burke and the Toronto media are putting him through. finger over lebda Worst porno ever. 3 sputman, zata40 and HankthaTank reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted August 17, 2010 Not very surprising to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted August 17, 2010 So that's..... good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted August 17, 2010 And when Yzerman offers him Malone for Kaberle around New Years, what does Burke say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites