Hawks sign Fernando Pisani, $500k

[Guest mindfly]

Edited August 18, 2010 by mindfly

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

I haven't kept up with Pisani in the past few years, but if he still plays anything like he did with Edmonton in 06 playoffs, he's a good bargain at 500k. Nice bottom 6 player who can do a little if everything. I'd rather have him at 500k then Miller or Eaves at 850k.

Edit:

Pisani's scoring stats projected over 80 games- 16 points

Miller's stats last year over 80 games-19 points

While Miller had 3 more points last year, Piani in general faced tougher competition at even strength, all while playing with far inferior linemates and less playing time. If adjusted for these situational scenarios, there is no reason to think that Pisani would not have at least equaled Miller's overall production, and most probably would have surpassed it.

In addition, Pisani's gaa for 60 minutes of Penatly Kill Time was below Miller's, while still playing on a drastically worse team. Say what you want to disagree, but it's hard to argue that Miller had that much of a better season to justify that pay raise.

Edited August 20, 2010 by EZBAKETHAGANGSTA

[lookalive07 251]

Who?

[Guest mindfly]

He did however score 14goals for oilers in their 06 run did he not?

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

He did however score 14goals for oilers in their 06 run did he not?

Yeah, he had I think 18 points in 24 games, and was an absolute ***** to play against in that series. He's also had 2-3 15-20 goal seasons if I recall. He won't save the Hawks, but I like this signing... like a lot.

[Guest mindfly]

Wonder why he would sign for league minimum though...

[stevkrause 1,247]

if he can stay healthy and the Collitis doesn't flare up, that's one hell of a bargain signing and could be a steal... this is a pretty damn good risk/reward signing, because if he's healthy, he's a border line top 6 guy and a great team guy from what I've read, but if he doesn't, they can IR him and it frees up the every penny of cap space they need and it's a league min contract anyways... pretty savvy signing actually imho

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

Wonder why he would sign for league minimum though...

After a couple of solid seasons, the last few have been rather injury filled and below his normal level of play. Still, I think this is a great signing in terms of Risk Vs Reward. He won't hit 20 goals, but he can still be a solid thirdliner/decent pker on the Hawks, and would almost certainly be better than one of the other AHL scrubs.

Here's a link from an Oiler's columnist who also thinks this could be a minor steal.

http://communities.canada.com/edmontonjournal/blogs/hockey/archive/2010/08/18/the-signing-of-pisani-an-excellent-move-by-black-hawks.aspx

[hooon 1,089]

After a couple of solid seasons, the last few have been rather injury filled and below his normal level of play. Still, I think this is a great signing in terms of Risk Vs Reward. He won't hit 20 goals, but he can still be a solid thirdliner/decent pker on the Hawks, and would almost certainly be better than one of the other AHL scrubs.

Here's a link from an Oiler's columnist who also thinks this could be a minor steal.

http://communities.canada.com/edmontonjournal/blogs/hockey/archive/2010/08/18/the-signing-of-pisani-an-excellent-move-by-black-hawks.aspx

Agreed. Hate to admit anything good about the Hawks, but this was a really smart move. I didn't even known Pisani was available. As mentioned, for 500k its a great signing based on his potential, and if he is hurt or sucks they can get rid of him easily enough.

Also its one last roster spot that would need to be filled by a rookie. Good move, but we still own the central.

[Guest mindfly]

I thought he was like 26 years old, turns out he's oldschool and 34.. yikes.

Think I mixed him up with another player with an Italian'ish name...Cogliano or something

Edited August 18, 2010 by mindfly

[HankthaTank 1,100]

Wasn't he on a commercial for his disease or something? Wow Blackhawks...really? lol

[MacK_Attack 108]

Wasn't he on a commercial for his disease or something? Wow Blackhawks...really? lol

Ulcerative Colitis

[HankthaTank 1,100]

Ulcerative Colitis

That's the one. Sounds awful and that's awesome he still plays with that but still....really Chicago?

[Casey 145]

That's the one. Sounds awful and that's awesome he still plays with that but still....really Chicago?

UC also flares up in stress, even if it's under control. He's going into the pressure cooker, and it'll probably get worse. Hope it doesn't for his sake, but fear it will.

[HankthaTank 1,100]

UC also flares up in stress, even if it's under control. He's going into the pressure cooker, and it'll probably get worse. Hope it doesn't for his sake, but fear it will.

Yes. Hopefully all goes well for him health-wise but I can imagine Stan having some ulcers after the last few weeks.

[Tommy_Like_Wingy 25]

I'll be surprised if he plays more than 41 games.

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

He's become cheaper than a hooker.

That illness he had has pretty much ended his career after that lucky one-month wonder in 2006, where people like Manny Legace made him look amazing.

[Guest Heaten]

The guy barely played over 90 games the past 3-years combined. He's also a minus player combined for -22 just in the past 3 years while barely playing over 90 games.

2008 = 56 games

2009 = 38 games

2010 = 40 games

Has he ever play a full a season? Great signing Chicago. Lol.

Edited August 18, 2010 by Heaten

[VM1138 1,921]

I hate it when people talk about a signing by pointing out how a player played 4 or 5 seasons ago. Seriously? He may very well be good, I don't know. But when I hear "if so and so plays the way they did back in '06 or '07 (or even '03 I've heard), it's a good signing" that indicates that player has done nothing since then.

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

Yeah, he had I think 18 points in 24 games, and was an absolute ***** to play against in that series. He's also had 2-3 15-20 goal seasons if I recall. He won't save the Hawks, but I like this signing... like a lot.

His best season was in 06 where he scored 18 goals and 37 points.

Since then his production and games played have steadily gone down. Last season he was a -16 in 40 games, a career worst.

This guy is a bargain buy. Nothing much to see from this signing, good or bad.

[Tommy_Like_Wingy 25]

His best season was in 06 where he scored 18 goals and 37 points.

Since then his production and games played have steadily gone down. Last season he was a -16 in 40 games, a career worst.

This guy is a bargain buy. Nothing much to see from this signing, good or bad.

Yeah but look what team he was on.

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

I hate it when people talk about a signing by pointing out how a player played 4 or 5 seasons ago. Seriously? He may very well be good, I don't know. But when I hear "if so and so plays the way they did back in '06 or '07 (or even '03 I've heard), it's a good signing" that indicates that player has done nothing since then.

How is pointing out previous success and ability in any way guaranteeing it to be a good signing? I was simply saying that before his injuries he was an effective third line player, and despite what the past few years have shown, it's not really out of the realm of possibility for him to return to part of his previous form. If the Wing's had had that mindset on players like Larry Murphy, Patrick Eaves or Dan Cleary, none would have become Wings. Seeing as the Hawks are essentially giving him AHL money, I fail to see how this is a bad signing in any way, as the rewards far outweigh the risks. No one said that they expected him to score 14 goals in 24 games like he did in the playoffs.

If he can get his disease in check, he could very well be a good bottom 6 forward far more capable of any of the other AHL scrubs. Despite his horrific 5 on 5 stats, he WAS Edmonton's best forward PKer last year.

Edited August 19, 2010 by EZBAKETHAGANGSTA

[mjlegend 155]

I hate it when people talk about a signing by pointing out how a player played 4 or 5 seasons ago. Seriously? He may very well be good, I don't know. But when I hear "if so and so plays the way they did back in '06 or '07 (or even '03 I've heard), it's a good signing" that indicates that player has done nothing since then.

The disease has made him a shadow of his former self. He was a good pest and plucky winger in his day, but that day is long gone. Kind of sad for both parties that this is what the Hawks are reduced to signing with all their cap troubles.

My prediction on his line at the end of the year: 35 games, two goals, four assists, seven points, 12 PIM.

At least he'll get to take part in the Cup banner raising.

Yeah but look what team he was on.

When you're part of a team, you have to take part of the blame for a team's failure as you would credit for its success.

The Oilers were a bad team because they had no chemistry in their top six and no grit and desire in their bottom six. Their defence was laughable and their goaltending atrocious, aside from a few good early games from Khabby.

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

Yeah but look what team he was on.

He was 25th of 33 players in that category. And only played half the season.

All I'm saying is Pisani's value is at an all time low, so I don't think of this signing as anything more than a long shot to bring back a guy who once had a great playoff performance at a dirt cheap price.

[titanium2 867]

It seems like if he stays healthy he should be a decent enough fourth line plug. Seems like a big if though.

Are they gonna go after Cheechoo next?