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#281 Barrie

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 09:28 PM

Not a good week for the band Nickelback:

1st they were named the #1 artist that will destroy your chance at dating: http://entertainment...1241520&page=10

2nd, 43,000 Lions fans have signed a petition for them not to play the Thanksgiving Half Time show:http://www.upi.com/S...56641320779389/

Joke's on us though, Nickelback is laughing all the way to the bank!
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Posted 09 November 2011 - 10:41 AM

In a vote amongst NFL players Suh was named the league's most dirty player. That being said, you don't get recognized as such in the NFL unless you're a force and Suh most certainly is. Any team would love to have that guy, including us Packer fans.

Suh was given 36 votes, with Jerome Harrison of Pittsburgh coming in 2nd with a mere 9.
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Posted 09 November 2011 - 10:53 AM

Wow. That's pretty lopsided. I have to admit that Suh does cross the line. He had a meeting last week to clear up what he can and can't do. Hopefully it helps him. We (Lions fans) want him to play tough, but we don't want him taking penalties.

Kind of like Kronwallian hits. We want them clean, but we want them hard and tough.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 11:00 AM

^ There's no doubt he's a rough player, but every player needs to be. Even though Suh does cross the line from time to time, his reputation seems to stir things up that aren't there. The whole whining from Atlanta players regarding Suh talking trash I found to be ridiculous. It was such a "Wah, Wah" crying routine. Had Ryan's injury been more severe, I can't imagine Suh would've said anything. Other than that, players talk s*** all the time and its to get into their opponents heads. Nothing wrong with that.

That being said, where he crosses the line is the type of stuff he obviously needs to get a better hold on.
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Posted 09 November 2011 - 11:06 AM

Agreed. No matter the sport, there will be trash talk. (At least real-he-man sports where men are playing.) Good, tough play is great and needed. It's a fine line between rough and illegal.

I suppose the dirty stuff comes almost naturally (never played football myself, although my dad was a coach). Rules are reactionary. They don't sit in a committee and think of things that people might do; they watch and see what people do that may be dangerous or unfair, and then they make the rule.

You hope that no one intends to injure someone else, but it does happen. The best we can hope for is that the injuries aren't the severe or permanent kind.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 12:43 PM

Suh is old school. He plays hard and doesn't really care if he hurts. That's why I love him. The unfortunate thing is in today's NFL if you look at a quarterback sideways it's 15 yards, a first down, and $20,000. I'm not saying he's innocent of the occasional dirty play. There are certainly times where he goes above and beyond, and I hate those because it hurts the team. But I can't blame him if he sacks the quarterback by pushing him down a little too hard and gets a flag.

An example of the last one was that in the 4th quarter of the Broncos, a linebacker (I think it was Bulloch) had Tebow wrapped and progress stopped. He didn't throw him to the ground, so Tebow threw the pass away to a receiver. Now Tulloch didn't want to throw him down or land on him for fear of a penalty as the new rules have seemingly implied, but the refs didn't blow the whistle and allowed Tebow to stand there wrapped up for seconds and then throw a pass.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 01:50 PM

I really don't care about that "Suh is dirty" stuff. He hasn't been suspended yet so anything he's done, real or imagined, hasn't hurt the Lions, and that's what matters. All that I require of Suh is that he be kickin' rad and/or wicked awesome, and he has maintained that high standard on every down he plays.
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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:37 PM

2008 Lions? Is that you?

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 06:42 PM

I am not emotionally equipped to handle these losses. It was much easier when a loss didn't matter because they were going to lose all their games anyways. Now it's actually important and each L is like an icepick directly into my heart. How do fans of real football teams handle this kind of pressure year after year?
"We've been in the same spot all year long. We won 50 games for the fourth year in a row. People think we're just hum-drum and boring.
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Posted 13 November 2011 - 07:22 PM

I am not emotionally equipped to handle these losses. It was much easier when a loss didn't matter because they were going to lose all their games anyways. Now it's actually important and each L is like an icepick directly into my heart. How do fans of real football teams handle this kind of pressure year after year?



Easy. When you were born after 1985, and have several painful memories of Erik Kramer and the QB Rotato, Wannstedt, Jauron, the Dinkpass offense, several running plays right into the nearest opposing lineman for a loss, and near-to-every offensive series resulting in picks or punts. Oh, and the stupid Buttpackers, and their fanbase which is twice as annoying as any Blackhawks fan.

Then the set up for Good Rex/Bad Rex, where he would lead the league in TD and yards, then throw 4 INTs and fumble twice. Get to the Superbowl and not win, couple that with the questionable personnel moves by Jerry Angelo over the last number of years, the up and down of the team, etc, etc. And most recently, the Offensive line jacking around while Cutler runs for his life and can't complete plays, while Martz keeps calling plays like a 14 year old playing Madden.

But given today's game, I wonder if the questions begin for Good Matt/Bad Matt. After all:

Both got injured in their first 2 years in the league, had to sit out.

Both can throw 90 miles away

AND both were looked at, at the time, as the saviors of their team, QB-wise.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 07:40 PM

Easy. When you were born after 1985, and have several painful memories of Erik Kramer and the QB Rotato, Wannstedt, Jauron, the Dinkpass offense, several running plays right into the nearest opposing lineman for a loss, and near-to-every offensive series resulting in picks or punts. Oh, and the stupid Buttpackers, and their fanbase which is twice as annoying as any Blackhawks fan.

Then the set up for Good Rex/Bad Rex, where he would lead the league in TD and yards, then throw 4 INTs and fumble twice. Get to the Superbowl and not win, couple that with the questionable personnel moves by Jerry Angelo over the last number of years, the up and down of the team, etc, etc. And most recently, the Offensive line jacking around while Cutler runs for his life and can't complete plays, while Martz keeps calling plays like a 14 year old playing Madden.

But given today's game, I wonder if the questions begin for Good Matt/Bad Matt. After all:

Both got injured in their first 2 years in the league, had to sit out.

Both can throw 90 miles away

AND both were looked at, at the time, as the saviors of their team, QB-wise.

Wah, wah, wah....8-0.
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Posted 13 November 2011 - 07:44 PM

I'm just going to chalk this one up as "the bad game" of the year and move on. If I sit and think about all that went wrong today I'll become physically ill.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:38 PM

Wah, wah, wah....8-0.



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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:25 AM

Point Proven.

Buttpackers? Annoying Fans? Pot, kettle.

Notice how Bears fans chanted "Detroit Sucks" during the game yesterday? It shows how similar almost all Bears and Blackhawks fans are.... in other words, raging assholes.
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Posted 14 November 2011 - 06:22 PM

I wonder if they can get Chris Osgood to give Stafford a call and talk about how to put a bad game behind you. Oz drove us nuts with his unflappable interviews after games, but he really did know how to not panic.

It's one game, and it was a doozy. Hopefully they can regroup their poop and move on.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 08:49 PM

Came up to learn today that Stafford played with a broken finger.


Is Shaun Hill really THAT much of a drop-off that Stafford with a broken finger is still better?


Plus. 63 Pass attempts. Not counting the sacks. The Lions very, VERY Badly need a running game. Otherwise all the league has to do is run Nickel, 3 deep, or what the Jets have in a 4-7 pass defense, and neither Stafford or Johnson or Burleson or Pettigrew are gonna outwork it

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 09:03 AM

Came up to learn today that Stafford played with a broken finger.


Is Shaun Hill really THAT much of a drop-off that Stafford with a broken finger is still better?


Plus. 63 Pass attempts. Not counting the sacks. The Lions very, VERY Badly need a running game. Otherwise all the league has to do is run Nickel, 3 deep, or what the Jets have in a 4-7 pass defense, and neither Stafford or Johnson or Burleson or Pettigrew are gonna outwork it

It doesn't look like Best will be back soon. Most reports have him sitting for the next 2 games with the a hopeful limited return in 3 weeks.
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Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:13 PM

It doesn't look like Best will be back soon. Most reports have him sitting for the next 2 games with the a hopeful limited return in 3 weeks.



Even with Best, the Lions weren't generating much. The only good game was the monday night debacle at Ford in which the bears didn't play like the bears and Martz called plays like a kid playing madden.

I really hope that the Bears lock up Forte. Because if the Lions even got a sniff at signing him and Forte ended up in blue and silver, the city of Detroit and Ford Field might come unhinged and start bouncing up and down like a washing machine.

If the Bears fail to lock up Forte, i'm going to treat it like the Hawks ownership situation from years ago. Things will not improve until the ownership dies. The only exception is if you told me the Delorean showed up on Wacker Dr with 1978 Walter Payton in it ready to play. Then the city of Chicago and Soldier Field would come unhinged and bounce around.

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Posted 17 November 2011 - 09:09 AM

Even with Best, the Lions weren't generating much. The only good game was the monday night debacle at Ford in which the bears didn't play like the bears and Martz called plays like a kid playing madden.

I really hope that the Bears lock up Forte. Because if the Lions even got a sniff at signing him and Forte ended up in blue and silver, the city of Detroit and Ford Field might come unhinged and start bouncing up and down like a washing machine.

If the Bears fail to lock up Forte, i'm going to treat it like the Hawks ownership situation from years ago. Things will not improve until the ownership dies. The only exception is if you told me the Delorean showed up on Wacker Dr with 1978 Walter Payton in it ready to play. Then the city of Chicago and Soldier Field would come unhinged and bounce around.

What's the Bears' cap situation like next season? You seem quite concerned about CHI locking him up...have there been problems with negotiations regarding him in the past?
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Posted 17 November 2011 - 04:46 PM

The Lions lack of a running game goes back to Leshoure going out for the season in camp. He's a 235 lb back who was supposed to get us the tough yards this season. Best isn't a between the tackles runner and I'm a little disappointed they didn't go out and get someone who could fill in and get a few tough yards.

Hopefully this is remedied either through Leshoure's return next season or the draft.

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