The funny thing about our predicament is that say we do get a lottery pick, well everything that I'm reading is that this draft class isn't really as strong with top-heavy talent like you usually see every year for the first 3-5 picks or so. Of course that could change, but for right now this team looks to be headed to being a bottom feeder for a few years.
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Posted 11 December 2010 - 10:10 PM
So the Pistons blew a 25 pt 3rd quarter lead at home against one of the weakest teams in the league tonight in Toronto.... this team is just an embarrassment to the franchise and the city right now.
Edited by Cruiser008, 11 December 2010 - 10:13 PM.
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 02:06 AM
And Ben Wallace scored a career high and even hit a 3 pointer. 
Pistons are a joke.
Pistons are a joke.
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Posted 21 December 2010 - 12:40 PM
Pistons gave the freaking Los Angeles Clippers their first road win of the year (1-11). That says it all.
Not saying its the cause of everything, but Joe D. trading Billups for Allen Iverson will go down as one of the worst trades ever.
Not saying its the cause of everything, but Joe D. trading Billups for Allen Iverson will go down as one of the worst trades ever.
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Posted 28 December 2010 - 01:27 PM
And the losses just keep piling up...do da, do da
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"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
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"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 12:14 AM
They beat the freaking Celtics?
"All done? Five bucks." - Pavel Datsyuk after an interview
"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence." - George Washington
"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
US Bill of non-rights
"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence." - George Washington
"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:46 AM
^ This team is ridiculous.
The beat the Celtics, and lose to some of the worst teams in the league. Bipolar.
The beat the Celtics, and lose to some of the worst teams in the league. Bipolar.
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 07:53 PM
The New Jersey Nets' attempts to acquire Denver's Carmelo Anthony are "further along" than any trade scenario that has been discussed since their near-acquisition of Anthony in late September, according to sources close to the negotiations.
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A three-team deal involving the Detroit Pistons that would include at least 15 players -- with Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups winding up in New Jersey with Anthony -- could be completed as soon as this week, sources said.
The primary elements of the scenario currently on the table, sources said, call for New Jersey to acquire Anthony, Billups and Hamilton; Denver to land Devin Harris, Derrick Favors, Anthony Morrow and at least two first-round picks; and Detroit to acquire Troy Murphy and Johan Petro.
Other players with smaller contracts would have to be included to make the salary-cap math work.
One key to the advancing nature of negotiations, sources said, is the Nets' and Nuggets' willingness to complete a trade without asking Detroit to surrender a first-round pick.
When the talks involving Detroit as a potential third-team facilitator were first reported Friday night by the Bergen Record of New Jersey, sources told ESPN.com that the Pistons were balking largely because they were being asked to surrender a first-rounder.
Yet sources said one of the remaining potential snags is New Jersey's insistence that the Pistons absorb the contract of Petro.
The Pistons do not want to take back Petro, even though shedding Hamilton's contract in exchange for Murphy and the Nets' center would represent an overall savings of roughly $17 million.
Sources say Detroit's stance on Petro has prompted New Jersey to begin looking for a fourth team that might be willing to take on the 24-year-old big man.
The Nets turned to Detroit to help seal their months-long pursuit of Anthony after attempts to rope in Cleveland, Minnesota and Portland as a third-team facilitator failed to progress.
Any trade for Anthony, however, still hinges on the All-Star forward's willingness to sign a three-year, $65 million extension with the Nets as part of the transaction in what is known as an extend-and-trade. The Boston Celtics got the same extend-and-trade commitment from Kevin Garnett when they acquired him from Minnesota in July 2007.
The Nets have made it clear that they will not agree to an Anthony deal without getting his signature on an extension a la Garnett. ESPN.com reported last month that the Nets plan to request permission -- and have already been told they will receive it -- to meet with Anthony face-to-face if a trade agreement is eventually struck with Denver. That would allow owner Mikhail Prokhorov and part-owner Jay-Z to lead a Nets contingent that would try to lobby the Brooklyn-born Anthony directly on the team's future, with the Nets planning to move to Brooklyn in time for the 2012-13 season.
The Nets long ago committed to send prized rookie Favors, former All-Star Harris and at least two first-round picks to the Nuggets in exchange for Anthony.
But New Jersey has been attempting to find a third team to help facilitate the blockbuster deal for Anthony that they've been chasing since the September collapse of a four-team swap involving Charlotte and Utah.
One source close to the situation insisted Sunday that the Nets -- optimistic as this sounds -- believe a face-to-face meeting with Prokhorov won't even be necessary to get Anthony's signoff if New Jersey can indeed acquire Billups and Hamilton. It was not immediately clear, though, how Denver native Billups' reported desire to seek a buyout if he's traded by his hometown team to the Nets would affect Anthony's stance.
What did seem clear Sunday is that the talks have taken on their most serious tone since the negotiations in February that would have landed Harris in Charlotte and Jazz veteran Andrei Kirilenko in Denver.
The New York Knicks remain Anthony's strongly preferred destination, sources say, but Denver has shown little interest in the Knicks' assets (such as Wilson Chandler, Landry Fields and Danilo Gallinari) and have been negotiating almost exclusively with the Nets for weeks.
With Favors and a cache of first-round picks it can move, New Jersey has a far more attractive war chest of trade assets. It likewise appears the Nets will not abandon their pursuit of Anthony until they're told directly by the All-Star forward that he would not sign an extension with them, which is the message some sources close to the process still believe New Jersey will get, as reported in December by ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan.
Nets officials, though, have remained quietly confident for months that Anthony, born in Brooklyn, ultimately would agree to the extension -- no matter how much he'd prefer to play in New York -- to ensure that he locks in his contract before labor negotiations this summer that are expected to establish a much more restrictive financial landscape in the league.
One source close to the talks said Sunday afternoon that the deal could be clinched if the Nets can find a fourth team willing to absorb Petro's salary. Detroit has been restricted in its attempts to make roster moves in recent months because of the team's pending sale, but sources told ESPN.com on Friday that the Pistons would be very interested if a trade scenario developed where they only had to surrender Hamilton and take back Murphy.
The Nets and Nuggets, meanwhile, have not stopped looking for other teams beyond Detroit that would be interested in joining the trade, since Denver does not have a strong need for Harris with young guard Ty Lawson on the roster. New Jersey and Denver have likewise continued to discuss trade possibilities with the Nuggets that don't involve any other teams.
Sources: New Jersey Nets' blockbuster trade for Carmelo Anthony of Denver Nuggets taking shape - ESPN New York
Anthony
Anthony
A three-team deal involving the Detroit Pistons that would include at least 15 players -- with Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups winding up in New Jersey with Anthony -- could be completed as soon as this week, sources said.
The primary elements of the scenario currently on the table, sources said, call for New Jersey to acquire Anthony, Billups and Hamilton; Denver to land Devin Harris, Derrick Favors, Anthony Morrow and at least two first-round picks; and Detroit to acquire Troy Murphy and Johan Petro.
Other players with smaller contracts would have to be included to make the salary-cap math work.
One key to the advancing nature of negotiations, sources said, is the Nets' and Nuggets' willingness to complete a trade without asking Detroit to surrender a first-round pick.
When the talks involving Detroit as a potential third-team facilitator were first reported Friday night by the Bergen Record of New Jersey, sources told ESPN.com that the Pistons were balking largely because they were being asked to surrender a first-rounder.
Yet sources said one of the remaining potential snags is New Jersey's insistence that the Pistons absorb the contract of Petro.
The Pistons do not want to take back Petro, even though shedding Hamilton's contract in exchange for Murphy and the Nets' center would represent an overall savings of roughly $17 million.
Sources say Detroit's stance on Petro has prompted New Jersey to begin looking for a fourth team that might be willing to take on the 24-year-old big man.
The Nets turned to Detroit to help seal their months-long pursuit of Anthony after attempts to rope in Cleveland, Minnesota and Portland as a third-team facilitator failed to progress.
Any trade for Anthony, however, still hinges on the All-Star forward's willingness to sign a three-year, $65 million extension with the Nets as part of the transaction in what is known as an extend-and-trade. The Boston Celtics got the same extend-and-trade commitment from Kevin Garnett when they acquired him from Minnesota in July 2007.
The Nets have made it clear that they will not agree to an Anthony deal without getting his signature on an extension a la Garnett. ESPN.com reported last month that the Nets plan to request permission -- and have already been told they will receive it -- to meet with Anthony face-to-face if a trade agreement is eventually struck with Denver. That would allow owner Mikhail Prokhorov and part-owner Jay-Z to lead a Nets contingent that would try to lobby the Brooklyn-born Anthony directly on the team's future, with the Nets planning to move to Brooklyn in time for the 2012-13 season.
The Nets long ago committed to send prized rookie Favors, former All-Star Harris and at least two first-round picks to the Nuggets in exchange for Anthony.
But New Jersey has been attempting to find a third team to help facilitate the blockbuster deal for Anthony that they've been chasing since the September collapse of a four-team swap involving Charlotte and Utah.
One source close to the situation insisted Sunday that the Nets -- optimistic as this sounds -- believe a face-to-face meeting with Prokhorov won't even be necessary to get Anthony's signoff if New Jersey can indeed acquire Billups and Hamilton. It was not immediately clear, though, how Denver native Billups' reported desire to seek a buyout if he's traded by his hometown team to the Nets would affect Anthony's stance.
What did seem clear Sunday is that the talks have taken on their most serious tone since the negotiations in February that would have landed Harris in Charlotte and Jazz veteran Andrei Kirilenko in Denver.
The New York Knicks remain Anthony's strongly preferred destination, sources say, but Denver has shown little interest in the Knicks' assets (such as Wilson Chandler, Landry Fields and Danilo Gallinari) and have been negotiating almost exclusively with the Nets for weeks.
With Favors and a cache of first-round picks it can move, New Jersey has a far more attractive war chest of trade assets. It likewise appears the Nets will not abandon their pursuit of Anthony until they're told directly by the All-Star forward that he would not sign an extension with them, which is the message some sources close to the process still believe New Jersey will get, as reported in December by ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan.
Nets officials, though, have remained quietly confident for months that Anthony, born in Brooklyn, ultimately would agree to the extension -- no matter how much he'd prefer to play in New York -- to ensure that he locks in his contract before labor negotiations this summer that are expected to establish a much more restrictive financial landscape in the league.
One source close to the talks said Sunday afternoon that the deal could be clinched if the Nets can find a fourth team willing to absorb Petro's salary. Detroit has been restricted in its attempts to make roster moves in recent months because of the team's pending sale, but sources told ESPN.com on Friday that the Pistons would be very interested if a trade scenario developed where they only had to surrender Hamilton and take back Murphy.
The Nets and Nuggets, meanwhile, have not stopped looking for other teams beyond Detroit that would be interested in joining the trade, since Denver does not have a strong need for Harris with young guard Ty Lawson on the roster. New Jersey and Denver have likewise continued to discuss trade possibilities with the Nuggets that don't involve any other teams.
Sources: New Jersey Nets' blockbuster trade for Carmelo Anthony of Denver Nuggets taking shape - ESPN New York
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 08:10 PM
I'm fine with the deal as long as the Pistons...
A. Do not give up their first round pick in ANY circumstance
B. Do not take Petro
Otherwise, let's get Rip's salary out of here.
A. Do not give up their first round pick in ANY circumstance
B. Do not take Petro
Otherwise, let's get Rip's salary out of here.
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 04:20 PM
Chauncey and Rip in New Jersey would look strange.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 12:27 AM
A win against Dallas? Why is this team so Jeckell and Hyde?
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"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence." - George Washington
"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
US Bill of non-rights
"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence." - George Washington
"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
US Bill of non-rights
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Looks like the big trade is off.
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"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence." - George Washington
"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
US Bill of non-rights
"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence." - George Washington
"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
US Bill of non-rights
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Posted 08 February 2011 - 11:58 PM
Let's hope they don't fall to the hapless Cavs, who haven't won since mid-December.
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"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence." - George Washington
"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
US Bill of non-rights
"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence." - George Washington
"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
US Bill of non-rights
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Posted 17 February 2011 - 02:48 AM
Sorry im a bit late to the whole rip hamilton drama, but why exactly has this happened? Did rip and Kuester butt heads or something? why would you bench your arguably best forward?
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I just can't defend Joe Dumars any longer. An expiring contract (Caron Butler) and a first round pick for Tayshaun Prince and he rejects it? You have got to be kidding. I would be kissing the Mavericks feet for taking Prince. He's a whiner, horrible offensive player and for all of his hype about defense - he hasn't been a decent shutdown defender in many years. Besides, what future does Prince have on this team with Daye and Jerebko already filling the small forward position?
I want to hear the rationale for NOT doing the deal. And if Dumars says it's because he wants Prince back next year, Dumars shouldn't be around long enough to give him a new contract. This is a disgrace - every player on the Pistons should have been trade bait besides Monroe, Daye, Jerebko and Bynum.
I want to hear the rationale for NOT doing the deal. And if Dumars says it's because he wants Prince back next year, Dumars shouldn't be around long enough to give him a new contract. This is a disgrace - every player on the Pistons should have been trade bait besides Monroe, Daye, Jerebko and Bynum.
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Posted 25 February 2011 - 06:03 PM
Sorry im a bit late to the whole rip hamilton drama, but why exactly has this happened? Did rip and Kuester butt heads or something? why would you bench your arguably best forward?
As far as I know, they were preparing for a trade that never happened.
I just can't defend Joe Dumars any longer. An expiring contract (Caron Butler) and a first round pick for Tayshaun Prince and he rejects it? You have got to be kidding. I would be kissing the Mavericks feet for taking Prince. He's a whiner, horrible offensive player and for all of his hype about defense - he hasn't been a decent shutdown defender in many years. Besides, what future does Prince have on this team with Daye and Jerebko already filling the small forward position?
I want to hear the rationale for NOT doing the deal. And if Dumars says it's because he wants Prince back next year, Dumars shouldn't be around long enough to give him a new contract. This is a disgrace - every player on the Pistons should have been trade bait besides Monroe, Daye, Jerebko and Bynum.
Listening to Valenti and Foster on 97.1 yesterday, they said that was exactly the reason.
"All done? Five bucks." - Pavel Datsyuk after an interview
"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence." - George Washington
"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
US Bill of non-rights
"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence." - George Washington
"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
US Bill of non-rights
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Sorry im a bit late to the whole rip hamilton drama, but why exactly has this happened? Did rip and Kuester butt heads or something? why would you bench your arguably best forward?
It isn't just Rip, but others as well. Rips only been singled out in this whole debacle after a report came out that he ripped (pun intended) into the coach sometime in January, berating him and using foul language apparently. Kuester just isn't a good coach, and the players are not behind him at all, but the lack of professionalism on both sides is disgusting, especially by the players. Out of all the people to laugh at Kuester for being ejected the other night, I didn't expect Ben Wallace to do that. That alone tells me there's a major problem behind the scenes. Only thing worse is Joe Dumars not doing s*** about it. He needs to put hisf****** popcorn down, get his fat ass up and do something about this, but of course his head is in the gutter STILL and he doesn't see a problem at all.
Message to Tom Gores: In the words of the Chinese store clerk, "HURRY UP AND BUY!" We need a fire sale.
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Train wreck of an organization.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 08:17 PM
Can't wait for the season to be over. I'm looking forward to the NBA playoffs to see if its LA vs. Boston, Round 3.
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"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence." - George Washington
"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
US Bill of non-rights
"Very few cities in the NHL have the history or the following of the Detroit Red Wings." - Steve Yzerman
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence." - George Washington
"Suck my machine gun." - Ted Nugent responding to British pansy Piers Morgan whining for gun control
US Bill of non-rights
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You talking about the Miami HeatTrain wreck of an organization.
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