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#61 Electrophile

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 01:04 PM

I hate when people make things political when there's no need for it. This has nothing to do with Jesus, Republicans, Democrats, Obama, right-wing, left-wing or anything else ridiculous like that.

There's a code of conduct that all NHL players have to abide by, and making oral sex gestures toward someone else on the ice violates that code of conduct. It's as simple as that. You may personally find it funny, you may personally find it un-funny. Doesn't matter. If I did that at my job, I would be fired, as would just about everyone else here.....if not severely reprimanded by our higher-ups. So why should an athlete expect to be treated any differently? I guarantee that if Derek Jeter or Albert Pujols did something like that on the field toward an ump or another player, they'd be thrown out of the game, suspended AND fined.

If Bud Selig can get it, so can you.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 01:12 PM

Personally, I think this should be suspended. Only because this is on TV for all of the little kids to watch and start copying. If a guy in a beer league did it, however, I would have no problem. This is also why players can't swear to the media or get suspended for saying things like "sloppy seconds." Even though personally I think this is worse than sloppy seconds.

Still funny though. But it's not for everyone to see.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 01:16 PM

Some people have a hard time understanding what goes on in a game and see it as being so terrible when they've never played the game themselves.
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Posted 12 October 2010 - 01:23 PM

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 01:32 PM

Some people have a hard time understanding what goes on in a game and see it as being so terrible when they've never played the game themselves.


Being a hockey player doesn't automatically make you right, by the way. All sports involve adrenaline and emotions, but you don't see stuff like this in basketball or football. I have played on sports teams before, and I'm sure almost everyone here has at some point. We know what it's like when an opponent gets under your skin. But we also know that people are watching. If I played a sport on TV professionally, I would have to watch my actions because this is not just sports we are dealing with, but the entire media as well.

So as for your above statement, yes I understand what goes on in a game. Hockey is not the only sport where you get really pissed off at your opponents, and you are not the only one that knows anything about sports and emotion. We all know what it's like. But sometimes you need to control yourself on TV. TV is not the same as a beer league or school.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 02:41 PM

I hate when people make things political when there's no need for it. This has nothing to do with Jesus, Republicans, Democrats, Obama, right-wing, left-wing or anything else ridiculous like that.


I'm assuming you're referring to my post. I didn't mean to start a political debate, and I don't think there is one. All I was trying to say is that I feel that, as a society, we've become so sensitive to things that might be deemed "offensive" that players are getting game suspensions for making stupid gestures. Give a 2 minute penalty, its unsportsmanlike conduct, and the threat of having your team be shorthanded because of your stupidity is more than enough to curb this kind of behavior. Hockey is a game where you're pounded the crap out of the other team, and they're doing the same to you. Emotions run high, adrenaline is pumping, sometimes it can all get the best of you.

Datsyuk's getting scrappy, what if late in the season, with a playoff spot in the balance, he gets suspended because he swore at another player and it accidentally got picked up by a mic? That's note right.

Maybe Wisniewski was trying to show Avery how to eat a popsicle? You gotta have context people :hehe: (I kid, I kid...)

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 03:08 PM

I'm assuming you're referring to my post. I didn't mean to start a political debate, and I don't think there is one.



No, it was more a general comment -- I wasn't making reference to any person in particular.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 03:13 PM

Wis looks like he really knows what he's doing there. :ph34r:

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That's what I was thinking!

I bet he gets a game suspension, no more.
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Posted 12 October 2010 - 03:16 PM

I AM the vast right wing conspiracy and I thought it was funny.
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Posted 12 October 2010 - 04:46 PM

WISNIEWSKI SUSPENDED FOR TWO GAMES

Defenseman receives two game suspension for actions in Monday's victory over the New York Rangers

New York Islanders defenseman James Wisniewski has been given a two-game-suspension from the National Hockey League for his actions involving an altercation in the Islanders game on Monday afternoon against the New York Rangers.

The Canton, MI native was acquired by the Islanders this past off-season and played in the team's first two games, tallying a goal and two assists for three points.

"A lot of actions on the ice are regrettable," Wisniewski said. "I've been given a suspension from the league and I'm going to accept it and move on from here."

Wisniewski will miss the Islanders game on Wednesday when they take on the Washington Capitals at the Verizon Center and Friday's contest against the Pittsburgh Penguins at the Consol Energy Center.


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Posted 12 October 2010 - 05:41 PM

Two games for a gesture!!! This league is funny as within the few games played so far this year there has been some questionable hits around the league but no one is looking at them. I guess they are too worried about s*** like this.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 07:14 PM

So I guess making the international symbol for a BJ is just as bad as concussing an opposing player with a blindside hit. Perhaps even worse, when you consider what Matt Cooke gets away with.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 07:56 PM

I thought this was funny, especially considering it was targeted at Avery. However, not surprised he's getting a couple games for it, the puzzling thing though is he's suspended for a gesture, but guys are still gettin away with headshots, and brutal hits from behind that are hurting people.
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Posted 12 October 2010 - 08:02 PM

TSN.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 11:11 PM

Considering what a certain member of the Penguins has gotten away with, this is a travesty.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 11:18 PM

TSN.

I thought this part was interesting, especially from a vet like Cheli.

"I love the kid, and by the same token, during the lockout, he was living with me and it took me two weeks to kick him out of my house because he turned my house upside down," Chelios said. "He had everybody hating each other within two weeks. I can see how he would get under your skin. He could be the greatest guy and then all of a sudden the other guy switches in and you want to kill him."


Avery must have some serious issues if he has the need to stir up s*** even in the house of a teammate. Seriously. Drama queen doesn't even begin to describe him.

The guy's got talent, but I'm still so glad the Wings ditched him when they did. 30 years old and the guy still needs to grow up.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 09:53 AM

I'm assuming you're referring to my post. I didn't mean to start a political debate, and I don't think there is one. All I was trying to say is that I feel that, as a society, we've become so sensitive to things that might be deemed "offensive" that players are getting game suspensions for making stupid gestures. Give a 2 minute penalty, its unsportsmanlike conduct, and the threat of having your team be shorthanded because of your stupidity is more than enough to curb this kind of behavior. Hockey is a game where you're pounded the crap out of the other team, and they're doing the same to you. Emotions run high, adrenaline is pumping, sometimes it can all get the best of you.

Datsyuk's getting scrappy, what if late in the season, with a playoff spot in the balance, he gets suspended because he swore at another player and it accidentally got picked up by a mic? That's note right.

Maybe Wisniewski was trying to show Avery how to eat a popsicle? You gotta have context people :hehe: (I kid, I kid...)


But the whole point is, it has NOTHING to do with us as a society. The NHL player's code of conduct clearly states that a person cannot act like is. Society didn't write or alter the code of conduct, the NHL wrote it. If you want to argue that a game suspension is too extreme of a punishment, ok. Have that argument. But don't try to pin it on society when society has nothing to do with it.





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