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#21 ShanahanMan

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 02:16 AM

ano...honto ni omoimaso. Zanen desu ne. Z wa gambate.

(Gomen desu ne. Watashi no nihongo chotto hen. Takusan wasuretta deshta ne, naze naraba America ni shabe nai.) Wakaru?


edit: ShanahanMansan, Yoyogi Koen ikimas***a ka?

Sugoi.


Not bad man. Just need a little work on structure and vocab a bit. I think you meant "osoii" in your first sentence
as "omoii" means heavy. Also, you wouldn't use "des***a" with a verb. If I understand you correctly are you trying to ask why I don't live in America? Or are you just trying to tell me that you're in America so you don't speak much Japanese and you've forgotten a lot? Anyway, I'm here because I have a decent gig out here. Amazingly cheap health insurance, 30 hour work weeks, low taxes and pretty good pay compared to what I'd get in America. Yea, I'm pretty content....cept for missing about half a seasons worth of Wings games.....:(

oh and yea, I've been to Yoyogi Park many times. Hard to beat out the beauty of that place on a nice day.

Nande nihongo ga wakaru? daigakusei no toki benkyous***eita?

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 09:59 AM

After the first four games of this season I'm yet to see #40 play as if he was under 40.
The way he is moving out there is either a lack of conditioning or he is burning out.
Yet weeks prior to the season Zetterberg said he lost 10 pounds and hoped to get a little quicker.
I don't know about you guys, but with the way he's playing, his time in Detroit could come to an abrupt ending in the next few years.

So let's get to the poll... What do you think? Is he declining early in his career or is it too early?

I believe it's a lack of conditioning in the summer, due to his wedding and a longer off-season.

Remember last season's playoffs?

If you do, then the answer is no. He still produces when it counts most more often than not.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:10 AM

Zetterberg is 30 years old, it's all downhill from now on...

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:47 AM

Don't worry, they've only been married for a few months still. Once a year, when the sex cuts down to once a week, he'll be as good as new.

Once a week? I'll take it!

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:48 AM

Lol. Slowing down based on what? His outstanding 2007-08 season? Here are the facts. Last season he was nearly a point per game player. And his back spasms haven't been sited as a problem for a few years now.
I think he plays his game differently and isn't going to the net as much. He used to get a lot of his goals hanging out beside the crease or between the circles. Now he seems to spend a lot more time puck handling around the perimeter, along the boards, behind the net, looking for someone to set up. He is more of a playmaker than a sniper, and really always was. I have no doubt that if he and Dats stay on the same line, Z will have another great season, and all the naysayers will be on his nuts again in the spring.

Edited by zetterbergfan, 15 October 2010 - 10:49 AM.


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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:30 AM

Zetterberg started slowing down last season and I've yet to see him regain his pace.

Agreed - although it's too early in this season to say with any certainty.

Last year I started a similar thread concerning Hank's overall health/fitness levels since he didn't appear to have the jump in his legs for stretches of time...Lets hope he's healthy all year long :thumbup:

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:38 AM

Z is at the age where he should be right in his prime.
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Posted 15 October 2010 - 12:41 PM

He should dump Emma for a less attractive woman.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 12:52 PM

I agree with most of the posters, Zetterberg has declined specially in the years of his prime. Is this something to worry about this year, I don't think so, it might be something to worry about in the long term. I'm not worried tho, playing with Datsyuk will boost his game up.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 09:44 PM

Lol. Slowing down based on what? His outstanding 2007-08 season? Here are the facts. Last season he was nearly a point per game player. And his back spasms haven't been sited as a problem for a few years now.
I think he plays his game differently and isn't going to the net as much. He used to get a lot of his goals hanging out beside the crease or between the circles. Now he seems to spend a lot more time puck handling around the perimeter, along the boards, behind the net, looking for someone to set up. He is more of a playmaker than a sniper, and really always was. I have no doubt that if he and Dats stay on the same line, Z will have another great season, and all the naysayers will be on his nuts again in the spring.


I think we all want to see the Zetterberg not only of 2007-2008 but also 2006-2007. Should we just forget about that guy and try our best to enjoy the way he plays now (not going to the net as much, as you suggested)? It's a tough adjustment for Wings fans because that version of Zetterberg was really, really good.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:16 PM

In 4 games through the championship season Z had 3g-8a-11pts while Pav had 3 assists. The year before in the first four games, both Pav and Z had 1g-2a-3pts.

Z's magical 2007-2008 start to the season in which he set a record of 16 games in which he registered a point was very, very special; special as in it doesn't happen that often.

If we're going to make a judgment based on stats (and yes, I'm aware that some of you aren't), then we really haven't seen a significant difference if you treat Z's start to the championship season as an anomaly.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 10:45 PM

He doesn't look as fast as he did in the 2008 playoffs. But it's only four games.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 11:03 PM

He doesn't look as fast as he did in the 2008 playoffs. But it's only four games.


I don't expect Z to play in playoff mode every game.

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 04:24 AM

one thing is for sure, at this point, that long term contract of Zetterberg at 6+ million a year versus Franzens contract, aint looking like such a bargain

Edited by Spongewingredpants, 23 October 2010 - 04:24 AM.

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 09:37 AM

one thing is for sure, at this point, that long term contract of Zetterberg at 6+ million a year versus Franzens contract, aint looking like such a bargain



Yes it is. Last time I checked (a game or so ago) he was tied with Datsyuk in points. He's just not scoring as often as usual. He's still the world class all around player. Count in having a history of slow starts, I don't see the issue here. Realistically we've got 3 or 4 more more years before he really starts to decline, if we compare to similar players.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:03 AM

He hasn't been worthy of the top line this year as of yet, and that is in terms of quality of play and not just statistically.

Val, Pav, and Johan have all played better than Zetter as of right now.

This just doesn't mean anything but the line is off a bit.

My major complaints is that he has mostly held onto the puck a bit too long instead of shooting. He is the sniper of the line and instead has tried to play like a dangler. It feels like he has more attempts off of his backhand then his forehand. He just has no chemistry with Homer yet, and has been slow to cycle. All of these things can work themselves out, and none suggest to me that he is physically weaker. The only thing that does suggest that he is slowing down is the fact his backchecking seems to have dropped off. I hesitate because it might only appear so because Pav and Val have been tearing up the defensive effort on the backcheck.

He still remains one of the strongest players on the puck in the league. He rarely makes turnovers and plays solid defensively. He and Pavel still have great chemistry and can make beautiful plays. They will tighten up and if you don't believe me rewatch his first goal of the season. That was a great play by each member of the top line. It suggests to me that if Z just shoots the puck a bit faster things will work out fine. I cannot assume he is slowing down at his age based on what I have seen.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:10 AM

I don't expect Z to play in playoff mode every game.


Hat trick per game or he's a bust. WE demand more out of our players, dammit! :ph34r:

Seriously, he's a PPG. Plus the fact that the top line didn't start out with any chemistry and Homer looks like the weak link on that line, Zetterberg is doing fine. I've yet to see a season where Zetterberg comes out of the gates putting up 1 or 2 goals per game. He's always been a slow starter, always.

Edited by Heaten, 23 October 2010 - 10:10 AM.


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Posted 23 October 2010 - 10:36 AM

6 points in 6 games? on pace for 82 points? and heating up? This team needs more Samuelson if we are whipping on Z.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 06:14 PM

He is slowing down a bit but it is the start of the season so cant judge anything. Make this thread at the end or half way through the season if he starts to really decline. God after 4 games wings fans were going crazy over nothing it was funny seeing all the bashing players threads after 4 games.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 06:58 PM

6 points in 6 games? on pace for 82 points? and heating up? This team needs more Samuelson if we are whipping on Z.


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Relax, take deep breaths, Z will do just fine people.





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