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[Original-Six]

lol i don't see how people can say it didn't look like a hit to the head. Its was a blatantly obvious blind side hit straight to his head. Which is exactly the the NHL is trying to get rid of by implementing this new rule. Cant really argue the call.

[Stolberg]

blurry screenshots don't prove anything on either side of the argument

[10 Minute Misconduct]

lol i don't see how people can say it didn't look like a hit to the head. Its was a blatantly obvious blind side hit straight to his head. Which is exactly the the NHL is trying to get rid of by implementing this new rule. Cant really argue the call.

How was it a blinbside tho when he was infront of him making the hit?

It wasnt from the side like Doan's was. Here he actually stars ahead of him then cuts back kind of to make the hit.

[haroldsnepsts]

lol i don't see how people can say it didn't look like a hit to the head. Its was a blatantly obvious blind side hit straight to his head. Which is exactly the the NHL is trying to get rid of by implementing this new rule. Cant really argue the call.

you're right. With the irrefutable evidence of that blurry screencap shot from the other side of the rink, how could anyone possibly disagree?


EDITED to remove annoyingly oversized image.

Edited by haroldsnepsts, 25 October 2010 - 10:02 PM.

[Original-Six]

blurry screenshots don't prove anything on either side of the argument

Watch the video leading up to the screenshot its pretty obvious...

How was it a blinbside tho when he was infront of him making the hit?

It wasnt from the side like Doan's was. Here he actually stars ahead of him then cuts back kind of to make the hit.

"a lateral, back-pressure or blind-side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of contact."

Pretty sure this hit falls under that category. I my self am a fan of more aggressive hockey but seriously how can people argue this call with the new rule?

[JoshuaW92]

I think the refs got the call right. Brown definately made contact with Mietinen's head, but Mietinen also could see it coming. I don't think that is suspension worthy especially since he didn't get hurt. I really hope he doesn't get a suspension though because he is on my fantasy team

[jollymania]

Watch the video leading up to the screenshot its pretty obvious...




"a lateral, back-pressure or blind-side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of contact."

Pretty sure this hit falls under that category. I my self am a fan of more aggressive hockey but seriously how can people argue this call with the new rule?

in the video you can see the shoulder contacted, i conveniently posted an arrow in the video as well to point out th e#s on the jersey, if you look closely his head snaps back before brown's shoulder hits it

[Stolberg]

Watch the video leading up to the screenshot its pretty obvious...

so obvious that everyone seems to have a slightly different take on it

[Wings_Toledo]

Seriously guys, how can anyone watch that first video and think the contact was made to the head first? The hit is CLEARLY shoulder-to-shoulder and Brown kept his elbow down. Also, as was previously mentioned, if that was a hit to the head he would have been down for a while.

[Original-Six]

in the video you can see the shoulder contacted, i conveniently posted an arrow in the video as well to point out th e#s on the jersey, if you look closely his head snaps back before brown's shoulder hits it

Watch from the 1 min mark. Its a much better angle. Brown at most brushed the jersey on Miettinen shoulder before hitting him in the side of the head.

[SpIkE]

@ the OP... The end of the NHL? sounds a little drastic...lol

[dobbles]

I think jones and olczyk got it right. the ref made the right call because at full speed it looked dirty. but after slowing it down, the hit appears less questionable. there is not clear contact with the head and its even debatable if brown was behind him at the time.

[jollymania]

Watch from the 1 min mark. Its a much better angle. Brown at most brushed the jersey on Miettinen shoulder before hitting him in the side of the head.

all of the contact is made to shoulder, youre seeing things

@ the OP... The end of the NHL? sounds a little drastic...lol

as we know it, as in if normal hits are penalized we are in trouble


maybe the edge of miettinen's chinny chin chin was brushed but it looks like pure shoulder to shoulder
just look at the angle that miettinen's head goes, it is unrelated to brown's shoulder, while the shoulder of miettinen mirrors it perfectly

this picture shows where primary contact was made

[CenterIce]

Looks more like shoulder to shoulder in slow motion replays. Tough for a ref to make that call live since it looks like solid contact to the head, but I don't think the league should hand out a suspension after looking at replays.

This is the key right here. We are looking at frames of a video. The refs see it at full speed. It was close enough to the rule to warrant the call. It looked like both refs were making the call, so they both saw it the same.

[McAwesome]

I think jones and olczyk got it right. the ref made the right call because at full speed it looked dirty. but after slowing it down, the hit appears less questionable. there is not clear contact with the head and its even debatable if brown was behind him at the time.

I never thought I would ever agree with someone who agreed with those two clowns, but they are exactly right. The refs made the right call based on what they saw, Miettenen was in a vulnerable position, Brown was approaching laterally, and the follow through on the hit caused Miettenen's head to snap back, I don't think anyone can question the call on the ice. However, if the league decides that hit is worthy of suspension after reviewing it carefully, that is another story.

[jollymania]

This is the key right here. We are looking at frames of a video. The refs see it at full speed. It was close enough to the rule to warrant the call. It looked like both refs were making the call, so they both saw it the same.

take the decision away form the refs, they have already shown in this hit and the letang one that they are too incompetent to call this particular play at game speed

[Original-Six]

all of the contact is made to shoulder, youre seeing things


as we know it, as in if normal hits are penalized we are in trouble


maybe the edge of miettinen's chinny chin chin was brushed but it looks like pure shoulder to shoulder
just look at the angle that miettinen's head goes, it is unrelated to brown's shoulder, while the shoulder of miettinen mirrors it perfectly

Miettinen head snaps back when the purple shoulder patch is right next to his head. Which makes it look like he got hit in the head with a shoulder.

You can also see how

this picture shows where primary contact was made

From this picture it looks like Brown is about to hit him in the head with a shoulder. Cant even tell if contact was made yet.



Even if Brown did catch a little piece of his shoulder he still hit Miettinen in the side of the head but what ever.

Edited by Original-Six, 25 October 2010 - 11:25 PM.

[Echolalia]

I'm looking at these replays and I'm seeing contact with the shoulder, but it looks like the brunt of the hit is absorbed in the head.

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros]

A boarding major and a game misconduct is plenty enough discipline for that hit. I'd be beside myself if Brown is slapped with a fine or suspension.

[Carman]

I love that you are not allowed to hit when you back check. Great rules NHL.

I can see why it was called that way on the ice, the head did snap back. But that was not a targeted hit to the head. If this gets Brown suspended I'll be very disappointed.