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#81 RedWings Gone Wild

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 04:52 PM

A domino effect of the Kovalchuk deal: no money here to have, so I'd better look elsewhere. I assume they used primer, followed by two coats latex to paint themselves into this corner.


Kovalchuk's deal is obscene in a lot of ways.... but his cap hit is really pretty manageable. He's 24th in the league in Cap hit, behind inferior players like Vanek, Eric Staal, Nash, Lecavalier, Gomez, Drury, Bouwmeester, etc... It's not Kovalchuk's deal that is the ridiculous one when it comes to cap management and fielding a team.

Lou threw out no trade/movement clauses like candy at Halloween to players who didn't warrant them... and now he's stuck with overpaying guys like Rolston (5 million cap hit for 2 games so far, and 37 points last year...), Zubrus, Langenbrunner, and Elias.

And the Defense Lou put together is composed of players who have never put points on the board: Volchenkov, Tallinder, Colin White, etc... Imagine Datsyuk and Zetterberg trying to put up points without guys like Raf, Lidstrom, and Kronwall moving the puck. Think they'd stay at a PPG? The blame doesn't rest on Kovalchuk's shoulders... His cap hit isn't bad, and he didn't put a gun to anyone's head to make Devils management sign him and sign all those other bad contracts.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 09:35 PM

Now Marty left the game against Chicago with an "Arm / Elbow bruise"....didnt sound good. Johan Hedberg, take it away!
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 09:51 PM

Oh man, now Brodeur is hurt.

Dear God, you're supposed to bestow your wrath against the REAL devil, not the ones from New Jersey.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 11:10 PM

I actually feel bad for the Devils. When it rains, it pours. We know that all too well from last season.

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 12:16 AM

Kovalchuk's deal is obscene in a lot of ways.... but his cap hit is really pretty manageable. He's 24th in the league in Cap hit, behind inferior players like Vanek, Eric Staal, Nash, Lecavalier, Gomez, Drury, Bouwmeester, etc... It's not Kovalchuk's deal that is the ridiculous one when it comes to cap management and fielding a team.

Lou threw out no trade/movement clauses like candy at Halloween to players who didn't warrant them... and now he's stuck with overpaying guys like Rolston (5 million cap hit for 2 games so far, and 37 points last year...), Zubrus, Langenbrunner, and Elias.

And the Defense Lou put together is composed of players who have never put points on the board: Volchenkov, Tallinder, Colin White, etc... Imagine Datsyuk and Zetterberg trying to put up points without guys like Raf, Lidstrom, and Kronwall moving the puck. Think they'd stay at a PPG? The blame doesn't rest on Kovalchuk's shoulders... His cap hit isn't bad, and he didn't put a gun to anyone's head to make Devils management sign him and sign all those other bad contracts.


I pretty much agree with you, but one minor aside: At that price I would take Nash, Staal, or Lecavalier in a heart beat over Kovalchuk.

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 01:55 AM

I pretty much agree with you, but one minor aside: At that price I would take Nash, Staal, or Lecavalier in a heart beat over Kovalchuk.


I disagree... I would rather have 06-07 Levavalier... but he hasn't exited since 06-07... and Staal and Nash.. not a chance... They are about as good as Kovi defensively.. and neither are better than Kovalchuk on the offensive end.

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 02:01 AM

I actually feel bad for the Devils. When it rains, it pours. We know that all too well from last season.




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Posted 04 November 2010 - 10:37 AM

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 10:45 AM

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 10:53 AM

I actually feel bad for the Devils. When it rains, it pours. We know that all too well from last season.


I guess the only reason Wings fans would have to not like the Devils would be the '95 Finals. And that was quite a minute ago.

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 11:47 AM

I guess the only reason Wings fans would have to not like the Devils would be the '95 Finals. And that was quite a minute ago.


Yeah, can't say it bothers me anymore... the 4 cups since then might have something to do with it :hehe:

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 05:24 PM

I guess the only reason Wings fans would have to not like the Devils would be the '95 Finals. And that was quite a minute ago.

Ah - no....Still hate them.

Loving every minute of this...Looks as though Lou found himself in a new version of the trap :lol:

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 12:45 PM

Brodeur's out tonight, Hedberg's in net.

Feeling better and better about picking tonight's Rangers/Devils game as my x2 for the weekend picks. :lol:

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 01:39 PM

Brodeur's out tonight, Hedberg's in net.

Feeling better and better about picking tonight's Rangers/Devils game as my x2 for the weekend picks. :lol:

I dunno... Although NJ is teh most suck, NYR are stil teh suck.
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 09:59 AM

Lest we forget,

THE COST:

(Just for the rental)
Bergfors: 4 goals in 10 games
Cormier: decent prospect
Oduya: a -9 sure, but playing 22 min/game
1st round pick

Then:
a 100 million contract and lack of cap flexibility for YEARS to come

Oh, don't forget the sanctions:
1st, 3rd, and a $3 mill fine

and what about the future:
Can't ice a full team?? 15 players.
Parise contract upcoming, will he resign? Offer sheet?

RESULTS:




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Edited by e_prime, 12 November 2010 - 10:00 AM.

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Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:23 AM

Sheesh, when you put it like that (including the sanctions) that is almost starting to rival the Lindros trade :blink:
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 11:01 AM

I almost want to feel sorry for the Devils after that.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 12:32 PM




:lol: :rotflmao: :lol:

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GOD!!! Kovi would have had better results if he shove the puck up his ass and farted it out! At least Modano actually got a shot off on his penalty shot attempt (a weak one, but a shot none the less)!

Man, NJ's situation seems pretty bad, especially when you can only ice 15 players because of the cap situation. That's a reason why I didn't want Kovi on the team: flexibility.
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 12:44 PM

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Epic.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 08:14 PM

Things not faring well for them so far against the Oilers.

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