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#21 brett

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 04:48 PM

get better soon howie!!

modano should be out. he needs a message sent to him where as i think huds just need more playing time

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 04:58 PM

get better soon howie!!

modano should be out. he needs a message sent to him where as i think huds just need more playing time


I agree 100%

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 05:08 PM

I believe this too. It applies to much more than just the team too. I'll be doing the same, as I always to when he's in net.


I knew you had a good face. :)

Osgood is a very poor goalie in todays nhl, standing only 5'10 and has very poor goalie technique, it's not hard for even the average shooter to pick a corner on him, he will be the last one of his kind when he hangs em up, now it's the time for 6'3+ & 100% clear cut bytterfly goalies, no questions asked.


WHO are you going to trade? And for whom? Specifics, please. I believe this has been asked of you before?

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 05:39 PM

I knew you had a good face. :)



WHO are you going to trade? And for whom? Specifics, please. I believe this has been asked of you before?


Yeah I just don't get the trade Osgood talk. Sure we would all love to have a more stable goalie situation, but Osgood is who we have, and there really is not anyone better available at the moment under the current circumstances.

I remember the same sort of play from him last year, let up some soft ones early, get over it and play much better but often too little, too late. I'm actually glad he is getting the start again, you need more than one game to prove yourself, and he is getting the chance.


As far as who Abs replaces, I too think it SHOULD be Modano, but don't know if it will. That one hooking penalty he took yesterday and the 19 chances he was unable to finish kinda told me he should see how the wings look from the press box.
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 05:40 PM

If I had to hazard a guess, I would say Hudler actually...

I can't remember who was arguing with me that Abs would not be back in unless there was an injury - As I said then, he would be in by Thur or Sat. mark my words... well, mark those words as correct.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 05:42 PM

s***.. Another L, guaranteed.


Seriously, dude?

Yeah, last year sucked. Find me any goalie who's going to be in good form when sitting a month at a time.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 05:49 PM

Seriously, dude?

Yeah, last year sucked. Find me any goalie who's going to be in good form when sitting a month at a time.

396 wins, 50 playoff wins, Jennings Trophy, 3 Cups. He's not dead yet. :goalie1:


Ahem. 397.

I love me some Jimmeh, but I want Ozzie to go out with a winning season, at least.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 06:37 PM

This will undoubtedly drive some people up their personal walls, but tough s***. I am a firm believer in positive and negative vibes. Call it electrical, magnetic, ether-oriented, mental, physical, whatever. I believe our thoughts, whether positive or negative, have great influence on events in general, and on people specifically. And I believe the more people lean one way or another, the more influence there is on the given subject.

I know stating this will have no effect whatsoever on how anyone here thinks about Ozzie and or the team while they're playing. Most of you have decided where you stand, especially with him.

But I will be doing my damndest to think nothing but positive thoughts about him and his play whenever he is in net for the Detroit Red Wings. If for no other reason, maybe to balance out the bulls*** that's coming his way in waves. I figure why the hell not? What's to lose?


lol I think somewhat like this too... that's why I was unnecessarily yelling sometimes at the home opener. you gotta do your part people! don't just sit there!

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 06:39 PM

So you do care whether it is Hudler or Modano then, since you could care less?
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Damn you! :P

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 07:04 PM

I love Mo, but sit his lazy ass down and tell him how it is.
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 07:55 PM

Osgood is a very poor goalie in todays nhl, standing only 5'10 and has very poor goalie technique, it's not hard for even the average shooter to pick a corner on him, he will be the last one of his kind when he hangs em up, now it's the time for 6'3+ & 100% clear cut bytterfly goalies, no questions asked.


We've been over this on these boards. Osgood hasn't had the chance to play consistently (even for backup-levels) in well over a year. Even this season, with the Wings taking such long breaks between games he's hardly seen any play. He clearly got better after the 3rd goal and I think starting him again is smart. It breaks up the routine and helps Ozzie avoid making things worse by dwelling on his bad play. Now he's got a chance to even the score and keep himself together mentally.

Smart move by Babcock.

As for who sits, it has to be between Hudler and Modano. Every single other player is carrying their weight. I'd lean toward Modano (since Hudler has at least been trying, all over the ice) but we basically promised Modano he'd play to get him to come here, so I guess it'll be Hudler.
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 07:57 PM

Wow! Really? You win the internet.

Ooh, ooh, ooh... the whole thing?

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Damn you! :P

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:10 PM

As for who sits, it has to be between Hudler and Modano. Every single other player is carrying their weight. I'd lean toward Modano (since Hudler has at least been trying, all over the ice) but we basically promised Modano he'd play to get him to come here, so I guess it'll be Hudler.

i remember last night in the 3rd (i think) and modano was going to the net, had a great scoring opportunity, the puck got lost off his stick so he couldnt get a good shot, and after he shot the puck, he just moseyed on back around the net and headed up to the blue line out of sight.... i was like "seriously? what the f***, dude?" he even stayed on the ice and didnt head off for a change.

edit: i should note that i am NOT a hockey player, nor have i ever been educated on what to do if you play a certain position, but i dont recall seeing players just completely give the f*** up like that.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:13 PM

We've been over this on these boards. Osgood hasn't had the chance to play consistently (even for backup-levels) in well over a year. Even this season, with the Wings taking such long breaks between games he's hardly seen any play. He clearly got better after the 3rd goal and I think starting him again is smart. It breaks up the routine and helps Ozzie avoid making things worse by dwelling on his bad play. Now he's got a chance to even the score and keep himself together mentally.


Has he had much of a chance to get a rhythm or form? No.. but that really is the case for a great number of backups.. Do you think Broduer, Luongo, Lundqvist, Miller, Vokoun, or Ward's backups are getting 20+ starts in? Unless there are injuries, inconsistency issues, or unless it's set up as a goaltending tandem (i.e. Ozzy/Hasek back in 08) backups often play a pretty limited number of games. I don't think Osgood played enough in the second half of the year last year, but that doesn't excuse him from not being ready to answer the call when he's needed.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:49 PM

Osgood is a very poor goalie in todays nhl, standing only 5'10 and has very poor goalie technique, it's not hard for even the average shooter to pick a corner on him, he will be the last one of his kind when he hangs em up, now it's the time for 6'3+ & 100% clear cut bytterfly goalies, no questions asked.


His size has nothing to do with his poor performance.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 09:05 PM

I think it should be Cleary. Hudler got us a goal last game and I think Modano as looked good out there. Cleary hasn't done s*** on the other hand.


What? Cleary has been the only guy worth a damn on that line. Neither Modano nor Hudler have played any semblance of defense or went hard after a puck the entire season. Babcock must think Cleary is doing just fine - he gets moved up to Hank and Pavel's line in tight games. There's a reason for that.

Modano is brutal. His effort is pathetic. He should be the one to sit and bring Abdelkader in to center the third line. Modano has been the worst forward on the team by far.
 
 
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 09:16 PM

it better not be anyone off the 4th line...

my bet is that it will be Modano...it kinda pains me to say it but I think hes the odd man...

1 goal (in game one) pointless since...and a wopping -7 yikes..

No way its gonna be Modano. He will just retire, he needs to be paired up with some players who can play. I like him with Cleary, but Hudler needs to go. Put Abdelkader up with Modo and Cleary and sit Hudler...

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 09:49 PM

This will undoubtedly drive some people up their personal walls, but tough s***. I am a firm believer in positive and negative vibes. Call it electrical, magnetic, ether-oriented, mental, physical, whatever. I believe our thoughts, whether positive or negative, have great influence on events in general, and on people specifically. And I believe the more people lean one way or another, the more influence there is on the given subject.

I know stating this will have no effect whatsoever on how anyone here thinks about Ozzie and or the team while they're playing. Most of you have decided where you stand, especially with him.

But I will be doing my damndest to think nothing but positive thoughts about him and his play whenever he is in net for the Detroit Red Wings. If for no other reason, maybe to balance out the bulls*** that's coming his way in waves. I figure why the hell not? What's to lose?



I believe this too. It applies to much more than just the team too. I'll be doing the same, as I always to when he's in net.


Ditto & Ditto!

Plus, this is a team sport. They win as a team and they lose as a team. It can't all rest on one person's shoulders.

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 12:32 AM

Perhaps it's not as simple as just benching Hudler. He pretty much runs the 2nd PP unit right?

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 12:53 AM

Since I started the thread, I guess I should chime in.

I think that Miller will get benched. It's not fair really, but I think it solves a few issues.

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Hudler - Abdlekader - Modano
Cleary - Helm - Eaves.

Cleary gets bumped to the forth line = wake up call, without being benched.
Modano maybe gets embarrassed that a hard working player like Miller sits over him.
Abdlekader brings fresh legs to the third line.

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