Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 6, 2010 I figured we might as well start one of these, given that Hudler is slightly controversial these days. Here's to hoping that his game will pick up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted November 6, 2010 Already have one here with a slightly different title. http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php/topic/67266-hudler-is-lazy-and-he-sucks/ esteef 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted November 7, 2010 hudler looks asian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted November 7, 2010 huds needs to shoot the puck more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted November 7, 2010 This is one of the worst marketing ideas ever. 1 atodaso reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) Where is he gonna fit? the third line is rolling now, abdelkader is a beast, hudler is not a 4th line type player and they need both miller and eaves (helm is always in) on the PK for it to work and not fail like it did against vancouver...Right now i would have loved to use his 2.875M and put on a more gritty player, i liked the thread about clarkson, would be a much more bang for the buck in this case... now they are stuck with hudler and nowhere to put him... maybe cleary can be taken out but then again he's been hot as of late... Edited November 7, 2010 by mindfly 2 Hockeymom1960 and T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted November 7, 2010 Where is he gonna fit? the third line is rolling now, abdelkader is a beast, hudler is not a 4th line type player and they need both miller and eaves (helm is always in) on the PK for it to work and not fail like it did against vancouver...Right now i would have loved to use his 2.875M and put on a more gritty player, i liked the thread about clarkson, would be a much more bang for the buck in this case... now they are stuck with hudler and nowhere to put him... maybe cleary can be taken out but then again he's been hot as of late... I was the one who started the thread about getting Clarkson but if they dont get a player like him, I think a mean defensive prospect could be good like Colton Teubert. With all the prospects that LA has it could be easy to get one off of them. I think having Hudler in the press box is a waste, we could use him to get some assets that we can play in the future when there are roster spots open. Outside of Smith Detroit doesn't have a whole lot coming up on defense and they have no power forwards in the system besides Sheahan. No point in keeping a guy whose providing nothing when we could help insure our future is bright by trading him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atodaso 279 Report post Posted November 7, 2010 Where is he gonna fit? the third line is rolling now, abdelkader is a beast, hudler is not a 4th line type player and they need both miller and eaves (helm is always in) on the PK for it to work and not fail like it did against vancouver...Right now i would have loved to use his 2.875M and put on a more gritty player, i liked the thread about clarkson, would be a much more bang for the buck in this case... now they are stuck with hudler and nowhere to put him... maybe cleary can be taken out but then again he's been hot as of late... maybe franzen will sit for a few (if the speculation about him being injured is true) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted November 7, 2010 I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be watching, exactly. 1 T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted November 7, 2010 maybe franzen will sit for a few (if the speculation about him being injured is true) I dont see Hudler offering anything to that line though, hes small and slow and doesn't provide defense. If he's playing against other teams top lines and d pairing I think he'll look even worst out there. Theres a reason babcock has never used him in the top 6 hardly, I sometimes dont understand why people say if he gets put in the top 6 he'll do better when he really doesn't have the speed or size to play like a top 6 player 1 WingZNut13 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atodaso 279 Report post Posted November 7, 2010 I dont see Hudler offering anything to that line though, hes small and slow and doesn't provide defense. If he's playing against other teams top lines and d pairing I think he'll look even worst out there. Theres a reason babcock has never used him in the top 6 hardly, I sometimes dont understand why people say if he gets put in the top 6 he'll do better when he really doesn't have the speed or size to play like a top 6 player i didn't say that he would do better. i just figured he might get put in the top 6 purely out of necessity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey 145 Report post Posted November 8, 2010 I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be watching, exactly. Hudler getting traded, perhaps? He's simply not the kind of player he was last go-round in Detroit. What they wanted was the 08-09 version, a guy who could be depended on to put up 40-60 points and play at least responsibly as a defensive forward. What they got is sitting at 3 points in 10 games, -6 overall. He's on pace for about 24 points, and the worst +/- showing of his career. He's lost the edge, and can be replaced. As it sits, he has the worst +/- on the team, tied with Modano. With him in, the line he's on seems lifeless. Sit him and play Abdelkader, and that line wakes up. I'll wager we see the last of Hudler come the trade deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenny 315 Report post Posted November 8, 2010 i didn't say that he would do better. i just figured he might get put in the top 6 purely out of necessity. Maybe, but it seems more likely to me that Eaves or maybe even Miller would be rotated into the 2nd line if Mule's out for a game or two and Hudler would be left on the 4th line. It would be interesting to see what Eaves can do with more minutes and Filppula and Bert as linemates. Babs does have options besides promoting Hudler, thank goodness! (At least unless and until Hudler pulls his head out of his bum.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted November 8, 2010 Hudler getting traded, perhaps? He's simply not the kind of player he was last go-round in Detroit. What they wanted was the 08-09 version, a guy who could be depended on to put up 40-60 points and play at least responsibly as a defensive forward. What they got is sitting at 3 points in 10 games, -6 overall. He's on pace for about 24 points, and the worst +/- showing of his career. He's lost the edge, and can be replaced. As it sits, he has the worst +/- on the team, tied with Modano. With him in, the line he's on seems lifeless. Sit him and play Abdelkader, and that line wakes up. I'll wager we see the last of Hudler come the trade deadline. The way he's been playing, it makes no sense to put Hudler in the lineup and sit Eaves. No need for a fat contract in the press box, send him away at the deadline for some grit in preparation for the playoff run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyphoenix 153 Report post Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) Hudler has no use to this team right now. He isn't good defensively and he isn't scoring. It's the same situation we had with Ville Leino last season. Also, I think he should sit most nights because Eaves and Miller both play very important roles on this team and they are doing their jobs right. Take one of them out and our PK is going to suffer. Edited November 8, 2010 by skyphoenix 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted November 8, 2010 Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi Cleary-Modano-Clarkson Eaves-Helm-Abdelkader -Miller I like Newfy's idea a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 9, 2010 Eva is awfully quiet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 Hudler for Rosehill and some picks? The Leafs need some offensive depth. I like the idea of having Hudler in case of injury, but I don't think he fits with the current lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stolberg Report post Posted November 9, 2010 jiri hudler is a great player for me to poop on 1 kook_10 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 9, 2010 The guy deserves some more time, but yeesh... he has been beyond awful. He can't handle the puck, he can't make a good pass, he never shoots, he gets knocked around, he turns the puck over... what happened to him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 I wouldnt even care if his +/- was terrible, that he's a *****, or that he's easily bumped off the puck if he'd help out the 2nd PP like he was suppose to. That's his biggest shortcoming so far this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 Another quiet night for Hudler, all at Drew Miller's expense 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 Another quiet night for Hudler, all at Drew Miller's expense Agreed. It's hard to be patient with Hudler and hope he comes around when it requires sitting players who actually contribute something to the team. Hudler's best games so far this season have been the ones where he's invisible. Because when you do notice him, it hasn't been for the right reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 I saw him with Flipper at some point so maybe Babcock was trying to get him some time with "better players". Still nothing though. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey 145 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 I saw him with Flipper at some point so maybe Babcock was trying to get him some time with "better players". Still nothing though. esteef He's had his chance, though. He's been tried with everyone on the top 2 lines at some point, and simply doesn't fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites