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#261 Joey v3.4

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 01:50 AM

Hudler needs a psychiatrist, we all know what he is capable of but he just seems like he lacks confidence and questions himself. For instance it seemed like shooting the puck never even crossed his mind on his two on one tonight, he is a shooter he needs to shoot. I don't want to see him become the Jason Williams and wind up doing nothing with his career, he is too good. Also, is anyone else annoyed by the way he tapes his socks?



I made this comparison somewhere else, between Hudler and Williams. It's almost starting to look like Deja Vu.

In my highschool there was a rich kid, who sucked at football. His dad was "connected" and despite the fact that this kid should have been cut almost first, he not only joined the team but went on to be the quarterback. Much like Hudler, he sucked at that position, and my HS football team lost every single game that year. Granted, I was more interested in setting off fireworks beneath the stands, than actually watching the game.

What does this got to do with Hudler? Absolutely nothing. I just feel the same about Hudler as I did about the rich kid who lead our team to a completely losing season.

It really didn't help that all of our cheerleaders were the size of a couch. Girls were kind of ugly in the early 90's.

Edited by Joey v3.4, 14 December 2010 - 01:52 AM.

And Boom goes the Dynamite.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 01:55 AM

Actually tonight Hudler looked as close as he ever has to his old self. He held onto pucks a little longer and seemed a little more comfortable in the offensive zone. I did notice he opted for the pass on a mini two-on-one in the second where I'm almost certain a confident Hudler would've shot. He was pretty square to the net for a 2 on 1.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 08:23 AM

So the bottom six yesterday was something like this:

Hudler-Helm-Cleary
Miller-Abdelkader-Eaves

And despite the loss, they obviously did a lot of good things.

Did anyone notice anything in particular about a difference in play between when Helm is the third line center versus Abdelkader? (And please keep references to Helm's finishing ability to a minimum if possible).

It appeared as if something clicked there. Maybe, maybe not.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 03:28 PM

Wings forward Jiri Hudler is on the trade block, if he is traded it will be closer to the trade deadline.

about 1 hour ago via web

-From NHLSourcesSay

Obviously, take with a grain of salt.
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Posted 14 December 2010 - 07:54 PM

Wings forward Jiri Hudler is on the trade block, if he is traded it will be closer to the trade deadline.

about 1 hour ago via web

-From NHLSourcesSay

Obviously, take with a grain of salt.


Yikes.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 07:58 PM

Wings forward Jiri Hudler is on the trade block, if he is traded it will be closer to the trade deadline.

about 1 hour ago via web

-From NHLSourcesSay

Obviously, take with a grain of salt.

Damn, that's still like 30 games away.
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Posted 14 December 2010 - 08:32 PM

Who else besides Zherdev is now back in the NHL after some time in the KHL?

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 08:34 PM

Wings forward Jiri Hudler is on the trade block, if he is traded it will be closer to the trade deadline.

about 1 hour ago via web

-From NHLSourcesSay

Obviously, take with a grain of salt.


is this a legit source? if so, i just dont understand how the Wings organization can be so ready to pull the trigger and send off a guy who can be a six player with 25-35 goals a year whose only 26...sure he's in some slump right now but i do believe the year before he defected he went something crazy llike 30 games in between goals. Like other young players the goal is always consistency. Why send off top six potential because of a slow start?

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 08:45 PM

is this a legit source? if so, i just dont understand how the Wings organization can be so ready to pull the trigger and send off a guy who can be a six player with 25-35 goals a year whose only 26...sure he's in some slump right now but i do believe the year before he defected he went something crazy llike 30 games in between goals. Like other young players the goal is always consistency. Why send off top six potential because of a slow start?




Slow start? Little beyond a slow start, don'tcha think?

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 09:09 PM

Slow start? Little beyond a slow start, don'tcha think?


sure, but doesn't the crux of my point stand?

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 09:45 PM

sure, but doesn't the crux of my point stand?


Well, in regards to the credibility of the source, it does have its own version of The Onion:

http://twitter.com/BSNHLSourcesSay

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 09:57 PM

its around eklund level credibility-wise



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Posted 15 December 2010 - 09:38 AM

Yep, NHLSourcesSay is in the middle of the credibility list somewhere. I've seen them post utter BS, then pull off a gem a week before anyone else knows what's going on. Hence my 'grain of salt' comment.
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 10:36 AM

I've been wondering if having Hudler on the team is affecting other players. I mean think about it. Here is Hudler who is making 3 million a year. He plays lousy and yet he still gets playing time and power play time. I think it's sending the wrong message to all the other Wings players. I know the Wings have one of the most (if not the most) solid locker rooms in the NHL. But it's human nature. If you see someone at your workplace screwing the dog and not contributing, it does have an effect on the other workers. It creates a bad and toxic atmosphere. I think the longer this goes the more it will affect the Wings as a team. The Wings did great in October and November but are off to an average start to December. Is Hudler's presence one of the reasons? I'm not saying if it is or isn't but I belive it's something to think about. FWIW, I don't see Hudler turning it around. I really don't. A quarter of the season has been played and he is not getting any better. The ones who believe he is showing improvement are likely seeing what they want to see. Holland is showing alot of patience with this guy. Holland is the best GM in the game but is he afraid to admit he made a mistake bringing him back? Trading him would in essence be admitting that but you have to cut bait at some point. The bigger mistake would be to keep playing him and getting nothing. Hudler needs to go. Whether it's for a draft pick, a minor league player or even waivers. He needs to go.
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 10:42 AM

sure, but doesn't the crux of my point stand?



If he would have had any sort of positive streak to reflect on beforehand, I'd certainly agree. But he has literally shown next to NOTHING since he got back. That's my only concern.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 10:47 AM

I've been wondering if having Hudler on the team is affecting other players. I mean think about it. Here is Hudler who is making 3 million a year. He plays lousy and yet he still gets playing time and power play time. I think it's sending the wrong message to all the other Wings players. I know the Wings have one of the most (if not the most) solid locker rooms in the NHL. But it's human nature. If you see someone at your workplace screwing the dog and not contributing, it does have an effect on the other workers. It creates a bad and toxic atmosphere. I think the longer this goes the more it will affect the Wings as a team. The Wings did great in October and November but are off to an average start to December. Is Hudler's presence one of the reasons? I'm not saying if it is or isn't but I belive it's something to think about. FWIW, I don't see Hudler turning it around. I really don't. A quarter of the season has been played and he is not getting any better. The ones who believe he is showing improvement are likely seeing what they want to see. Holland is showing alot of patience with this guy. Holland is the best GM in the game but is he afraid to admit he made a mistake bringing him back? Trading him would in essence be admitting that but you have to cut bait at some point. The bigger mistake would be to keep playing him and getting nothing. Hudler needs to go. Whether it's for a draft pick, a minor league player or even waivers. He needs to go.



Totally agree with the sentiment, but I would give him till the end of Jan or so to see if it's just a matter of conditioning. He's obviously done very little while he was away, I'd give him a little more time to catch up.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 11:49 AM

Totally agree with the sentiment, but I would give him till the end of Jan or so to see if it's just a matter of conditioning. He's obviously done very little while he was away, I'd give him a little more time to catch up.


I disagree that Hudler is bringing down the locker room because of his contract. Everybody in that locker room wants him to go on a huge goal scoring binge as much as he does. I think he's working but is off right now. Give him time.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 11:56 AM

I disagree that Hudler is bringing down the locker room because of his contract. Everybody in that locker room wants him to go on a huge goal scoring binge as much as he does. I think he's working but is off right now. Give him time.



Actually, I was responding more to the idea of trading him. I don't think he is bringing down the locker room either.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 01:37 PM

56pts in 46 games isn't too shabby, guys.

if only we could get that hudler out of my iPhone NHL 2K11 game and onto the ice..
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 01:49 PM

Just sucks cuz I seriously believed Hudler was gonna be a stud this year. He seemed to have a great attitude coming back and Babcock seemed to be happy to have him back... wft happened!?!





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