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#61 ACallToArms

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 12:52 AM

Like most big cities, the more populated areas are fairly safe. Foxtown/Greektown/Joe/RenCen square area isn't too bad, and there's a lot of places in the suburbs that are worse. Though I wouldn't want to hang around Hart Plaza or Campus Martius at night (though there isn't any reason to anyway).

Eastern Market, Cass Corridor, the bridge area, Belle Ilse, any of the projects...those are places to avoid. Fortunately, there's no reason to go there at night unless you're looking for trouble.

The real problem with Detroit is that other than the casinos, there's nothing there that you can't find better, safer, and more convenient in terms of parking/cabs in the suburbs. I love SE Michigan, and hate the bad rap the city gets, but compared to say Royal Oak, Ann Arbor, or even most of western Wayne county, it does kind of suck.


The douchebag quotient is way less in downtown Detroit than Royal Oak or Ann Arbor!!!

I kid, I kid, I'm a Royal Oaker and I love it here.

I've never gone to Harpo's as I've never had a reason to, but I've heard nothing good about its surroundings.


The neighborhood that Harpo's is in sucks, its basically the type of neighborhood that Detroit gets its bad reputation from. However, if you want to see a metal concert, no other venue compares :punk:

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 12:53 AM

I would rather walk in downtown Detroit than in downtown Washington D.C. Or New York. I feel a lot safer here than I do there.
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 09:40 AM

Ya. Standing outside in line can feel a little dicey sometimes, but I've been there a hundred times and have never had an incident. Ever.

I've been back and forth through downtown countless times at all hours and never an incident. Granted, I don't go poking around the surrounding neighborhoods and avoid the alleys, but anyone with half a brain would do that in EVERY major city.


Yea pretty much the same, knock on wood, I've never had a personal incident at Harpos and use common sense in all areas. I have been there, though, when some bad things happened to other people. I never recommend anyone go there for their first time alone or without some advice. It is definitely the kind of neighborhood that makes Detroit's bad name. To keep it on a Wings note, after we won the cup the last time, the band that was there all played in Wings jerseys, which was awesome! (No, they weren't from Detroit)

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 09:49 AM

http://www.freep.com...0437/1053/rss17

Of course, that's not the type of thing that sits well with Detroiters. And Fox Sports Detroit's Mickey Redmond, standing up for the city, reportedly informed the writer of that with a between-periods chat Thursday night.


oh, to be a fly on that wall :)
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:38 AM

How's that old saying go? Oh yeah, "haters gonna hate". When they can't rip on the hockey team, they have to resort to the same old thing.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:55 AM

Good on ya, Mick!!
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:56 AM

The turn around for Detroit will be tremendous.

Its been seen time and time again, that having that much open building space in that location will bring in all kinds of people when the economy turns around. First come the artists and the urban hipsters, then the family's and a massive rise in property values.

NY, Philly, North Jersey, etc all had large spaces of just total urban wasteland but that means buildings and therefore living costs are cheap. Now what was $500 a month 10 years ago is $3000 and the "cool" place to live.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:56 AM

Gotta love Mickey.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 01:18 PM

6-2 enough said
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 02:06 PM

It's really inappropriate to bring up the negatives of a city in a sports article.

But that said, Detroit is a dump, it's dangerous, corrupt and just quite frankly deserves every negative word said about it. I grew up on the West side until I was 16, near Cody High School. Our house had to be boarded up like we faced a tornado everyday. We had countless break-ins, 4 cars stolen, 3 dogs killed, several fences destroyed, shots mis-fired, car tracks on the lawn, and if we were lucky in the morning we would just find a couple passed out people on the curb. I couldn't leave my house to play as a child, fortunately my parents while being too proud to bankrupt on their newly bought home, did send me to private schools, which was my only escape. For every 1 cop that would drive by our house, I'd witness 100 drug deals(Note I lived in front of a school).

Detroit is literally a 3rd world country, and anyone that tries to minimalize the fact that it's a complete disaster is hurting the city, not helping it. It needs help, it needs to be publicized in anyway. It's great that there are a couple blocks in the downtown area that are doing well, but until the schools actually teach something besides safety or does something other than act as a day-care center for kids a couple times a month, and until practically everyone that is in the city government in some way gets gutted and replaced I'm not going to praise it, it doesn't deserve it to me at least.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 03:36 PM

Funny that someone from Edmonton is talking about bad crime in Detroit. Edmonton is considered one of the most dangerous cities in Canada. Their crime rate continually ranks way above the national average.

In 2008 they were ranked 5th

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In 2009 they were 2nd

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In 2010, 13th

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 05:22 PM

It's really inappropriate to bring up the negatives of a city in a sports article.

But that said, Detroit is a dump, it's dangerous, corrupt and just quite frankly deserves every negative word said about it. I grew up on the West side until I was 16, near Cody High School. Our house had to be boarded up like we faced a tornado everyday. We had countless break-ins, 4 cars stolen, 3 dogs killed, several fences destroyed, shots mis-fired, car tracks on the lawn, and if we were lucky in the morning we would just find a couple passed out people on the curb. I couldn't leave my house to play as a child, fortunately my parents while being too proud to bankrupt on their newly bought home, did send me to private schools, which was my only escape. For every 1 cop that would drive by our house, I'd witness 100 drug deals(Note I lived in front of a school).

Detroit is literally a 3rd world country, and anyone that tries to minimalize the fact that it's a complete disaster is hurting the city, not helping it. It needs help, it needs to be publicized in anyway. It's great that there are a couple blocks in the downtown area that are doing well, but until the schools actually teach something besides safety or does something other than act as a day-care center for kids a couple times a month, and until practically everyone that is in the city government in some way gets gutted and replaced I'm not going to praise it, it doesn't deserve it to me at least.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 06:17 PM

More people saying how dangerous Detroit is without ever living there or being within 20 miles of its city limits, what else is new...
Yet Chicago has one of if not the highest murder/crime rates per capita in the nation even with a handgun ban, but you never hear about that :rolleyes:


Or perhaps because of the handgun ban. :ph34r:

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 06:24 PM

handgun bans seem sof****** stupid to me... would somebody who's about to stick up a gas station change his mind because he just realized that there's a ban on handguns? no.

all it's doing is keeping guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens

Was it the guy who was beaten to a bloody pulp at the Take Action tour?


All I know is that the dude's band was packing up their gear, some f***ers came over when the band-mate and his girlfriend were in the car, one of the d-bags pulls out a gun and tells him to get out of the car and to give him his girlfriend. Well obviously he didn't want to hand over his girlfriend to these apes so he tried running him over and ended up getting shot instead...

I was about to play a show at Harpo's... only been there once and I don't really feel like goin back unless there's some really sweet bands playing.

Edited by scottj, 12 November 2010 - 06:26 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2010 - 06:28 PM

Detroit is literally a 3rd world country

No, it is not, and this is literally hyperbole.
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 06:46 PM

I'd love nothing more than to see Detroit make a turn around. Is it likely to happen soon? Well, getting rid of the gangsta maya was the first step. Now on to step #2 of 2,000.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 09:50 PM

No, it is not, and this is literally hyperbole.


Spend a night three blocks away from Herman Gardens like me. See if you hold the same opinion.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:56 PM

Spend a night three blocks away from Herman Gardens like me. See if you hold the same opinion.




Right... because no other city has an area like Herman Gardens (yes, I know Herman Gardens... my grandparents lived there). Seriously, stop it already. Are you honestly implying that the hoodlums in Detroit are somehow more savage than the hoodlums in every other major city in the world? Geography has nothing to do with it. Boohoo, you grew up in a s***ty area. Get over it.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 11:24 PM

I would rather walk in downtown Detroit than in downtown Washington D.C. Or New York. I feel a lot safer here than I do there.

I agree with you about Washington, but not New York. I've been there twice, and I felt safer in New York's downtown than Detroit's. Actually I really enjoyed New York as a whole.

But it's not a debate, to each their own. Personally I felt safer in downtown NY because of the number of people around, safety in numbers. As much as I like Detroit, the downtown is just too creepy with no one around.
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 11:58 PM

Right... because no other city has an area like Herman Gardens (yes, I know Herman Gardens... my grandparents lived there). Seriously, stop it already. Are you honestly implying that the hoodlums in Detroit are somehow more savage than the hoodlums in every other major city in the world? Geography has nothing to do with it. Boohoo, you grew up in a s***ty area. Get over it.


Look, all I was saying is the people that completely dismiss the problems of the inner city aren't helping at all. I'm not just being negative to be negative. The statistics aren't lying about how dangerous Detroit is. I'm just a little annoyed by several people of the hipster scene I know moving into/near Wayne State plant a few trees and hang out in the club just convince themselves that the problems of the city don't exist outside of their little box of perfection.

And if your parents lived in Herman Garden's you would know what actually went on there and it's lasting impact in the neighborhood and country, it wasn't just a slum, it was the biggest drug trade district in North America. Not to mention it's not just one slum, or even one side of the city, it's practically everything outside of the downtown area that's in trouble. I'd like nothing more to see the city rebuild, but covering the problems up with pretty words isn't going to help.




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