Guest blueadams Report post Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) How about these lines? 1) Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi 2) Modano-Datsyuk-Holmstrom 3) Hudler-Filppula-Cleary 4) Abdelkader-Helm-Eaves/Miller/Draper Explanation: I know that most on the board LOVE having Pav and Hank back together, and aren't going to like these lines, but please, just hear me out. It's hard to put this into words, but, I just don't think that these two need eachother to be successful anymore. Pav and Hank both need the same two things in order to be successful - 1) a good net-front presence; and 2) a sniper that gets into good position; not eachother. I think it's sort of a waste of Hank's talents to make him Pav's sniper - as opposed to letting him run his own show - when there are other suitable snipers on the squad. So, the above lines are what I'd run. I also love the idea of having Flip and Huds together on the third line, and of Modano no longer centering a line (I don't think he has to two-way abilities to do so in our system). Edited November 4, 2010 by blueadams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lookalive07 251 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 If it ain't broke, don't fix it. 2 13dangledangle and WMUsiv1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWings Gone Wild 6 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 Do I think Hank and Pav "need" each other to be successful? No, but it damn sure helps... and our 2nd line has been strong all season, even in the games they haven't put up points. Granted, the third line has been atrocious at times, but I don't think the answer is messing with the top two lines, both of which have been great so far. 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cupforwings 138 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 sorry, but no. Pav and Hank together make the team better. Our secondary line is a force. Our third line is coming together finally. And our 4th line has been great. Why change up a lineup that is 6-2-1? I don't get this thread. 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blueadams Report post Posted November 4, 2010 sorry, but no. Pav and Hank together make the team better. Our secondary line is a force. Our third line is coming together finally. And our 4th line has been great. Why change up a lineup that is 6-2-1? I don't get this thread. I disagree. I think that our third line's success last night was just a fluke. And I don't want to see another talented player (Hudler) run off the team like Leino. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 Well, you know, I think... Here are some crayons. I think you should draw us a picture. And we promise we'll put it up on the refrigerator for you. 1 Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 We need to juggle lines and shake things up; light a fire under their asses. 7-2-1 in our first 10 games aint gonna get us no where! (Heavy sarcing disclaimer) Dude: Kenny has built a Cap Era masterpiece; it just needs one little tweaking, hopefully just a little rippenning. It does not need to be torn completely apart and eassembled differently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) Man, its a bit early in the day for a thread like this, but hey, I'm not driving. Gotta go with the consensus here, no reason to split up the lines while we're having success. Its very possible that at some point this season circumstances will arise where we have to split up Pav and Hank, but I hope it doesn't happen any time soon (remember last season?). The second line is playing too well to touch at all. IMO the only moveable part right now is Miller, and the only replacement for him is Hudler, and at that point I don't even really care that much which of them gets in. Edited November 4, 2010 by hooon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 I never really used it when it was here, but where's the minus button when you need it? 2 13dangledangle and Motown4013 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 In all seriousness, Pav and Z will eventually play on separate lines. But now is not the time. The Filppula line, although cooled, is still solid. The Modano line is still a work in progress but a work in progress that is finally going in the right direction. The Helm line is probably where Hudler should be despite his salary. 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stolberg Report post Posted November 4, 2010 first line should be helm - datsyuk - osgood 4 Byorski, Hockeymom1960, 55fan and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
under_par_00 45 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 first line should be helm - datsyuk - osgood I think Helm is better suited to playing net. The goalie has to be the best skater anyway, no? Put Howie up there on the Wing, his back is feeling better, he can grind it out in the corners while Dats feeds Ozzy. Howard - Dats - Ozzy Helm in net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) Ericsson-Kronwall-Kindl Helm-Rafalski-Modano Howard-Osgood-McCollum Stuart-Franzen-Zetterberg Datsyuk Filppula-Eaves Draper-Bertuzzi Cleary-Abdelkader Lidstrom Holmstrom Hudler Edited November 4, 2010 by hooon 10 Detroit \# 1 Fan, Hockeymom1960, DatsyukianDekes and 7 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 324 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 Ericsson-Kronwall-Kindl Helm-Rafalski-Modano Howard-Osgood-McCollum Stuart-Franzen-Zetterberg Datsyuk Filppula-Eaves Draper-Bertuzzi Cleary-Abdelkader Lidstrom Holmstrom Hudler FFS Babcock is blind to not be able to see the potential in this! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hey man nice shot! 144 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 Ericsson-Kronwall-Kindl Helm-Rafalski-Modano Howard-Osgood-McCollum Stuart-Franzen-Zetterberg Datsyuk Filppula-Eaves Draper-Bertuzzi Cleary-Abdelkader Lidstrom Holmstrom Hudler much improved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted November 4, 2010 How about these lines? 1) Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi 2) Modano-Datsyuk-Holmstrom 3) Hudler-Filppula-Cleary 4) Abdelkader-Helm-Eaves/Miller/Draper Explanation: I know that most on the board LOVE having Pav and Hank back together, and aren't going to like these lines, but please, just hear me out. It's hard to put this into words, but, I just don't think that these two need eachother to be successful anymore. Pav and Hank both need the same two things in order to be successful - 1) a good net-front presence; and 2) a sniper that gets into good position; not eachother. I think it's sort of a waste of Hank's talents to make him Pav's sniper - as opposed to letting him run his own show - when there are other suitable snipers on the squad. So, the above lines are what I'd run. I also love the idea of having Flip and Huds together on the third line, and of Modano no longer centering a line (I don't think he has to two-way abilities to do so in our system). Bert-Flip-Franz has been our best line. That line should stay together. Here's what I like: Zetter-Dats-Holmer Bert-Flip-Franz Abdelkader-Modano-Cleary Miller-Helm-Eaves Trade: Hudler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 Ericsson-Kronwall-Kindl Helm-Rafalski-Modano Howard-Osgood-McCollum Stuart-Franzen-Zetterberg Datsyuk Filppula-Eaves Draper-Bertuzzi Cleary-Abdelkader Lidstrom Holmstrom Hudler You, sir, just made me laugh out loud making everyone around me at work wonder what the hell was going on. Kudos to you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 Why? Third line looked great last night and Hank and Pav have been great together. Let Hudler sit on his ass until he can get back to speed with the faster league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 Ericsson-Kronwall-Kindl Helm-Rafalski-Modano Howard-Osgood-McCollum Stuart-Franzen-Zetterberg Datsyuk Filppula-Eaves Draper-Bertuzzi Cleary-Abdelkader Lidstrom Holmstrom Hudler No offense, but that's stupid. Relying far too much on goalie chemistry for that third line. I know Ozzie is tied for third all-time in goals by a goalie, but he can't carry a line by himself. Swap Stuart and Howie, and McCollum needs top-line minutes in GR to develop. Salei is a stud, no idea why you left him out. And why on earth would you have a dinosaur like Homer starting in goal when we have Miller? Do you not know who Miller's brother is? 10 McAwesome, GSBrooks13, Detroit \# 1 Fan and 7 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 God dangit, I hate when Babcock gives us those eyes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 Ericsson-Kronwall-Kindl Helm-Rafalski-Modano Howard-Osgood-McCollum Stuart-Franzen-Zetterberg Datsyuk Filppula-Eaves Draper-Bertuzzi Cleary-Abdelkader Lidstrom Holmstrom Hudler Homer would make more stick saves in one night than most goalies make in a month. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 No offense, but that's stupid. Relying far too much on goalie chemistry for that third line. I know Ozzie is tied for third all-time in goals by a goalie, but he can't carry a line by himself. Swap Stuart and Howie, and McCollum needs top-line minutes in GR to develop. Salei is a stud, no idea why you left him out. And why on earth would you have a dinosaur like Homer starting in goal when we have Miller? Do you not know who Miller's brother is? I love the turn this thread has taken! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 first line should be helm - datsyuk - osgood NOOOO Datsyuk is on Defense! 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted November 4, 2010 Ericsson-Kronwall-Kindl Helm-Rafalski-Modano Howard-Osgood-McCollum Stuart-Franzen-Zetterberg Datsyuk Filppula-Eaves Draper-Bertuzzi Cleary-Abdelkader Lidstrom Holmstrom Hudler Just imagine Homer playing on PP with the goalie stick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
