Do Maple Leaf fans deserve better?

[UpstateNYRedWingsFan 42]

Yeah, the poster may have been joking, but what they wrote was actually libel. The affected players are absolutely within their rights to do so. Even Internet trolls have to be held accountable. It's funny, sure, but libel usually is.

It's not libel if it was clearly intended to be a joke and not to be taken seriously, one of the most common defenses to it. The Onion is a perfect example.

And comparing a rape threat to a kid who was just making an innocent joke? Seriously?

Edit: http://www.theonion.com/articles/jay-cutler-ill-be-the-first-person-to-admit-we-nee,37422/

This article is a perfect example. Clearly a joke that some people took literally but not libel

Edited March 6, 2015 by UpstateNYRedWingsFan

[wings87 1,290]

Lets get something straight the only reason this is an issue is because somebody over at TSN failed to properly check the tweets that were posted. There are way worse things posted online that don't get the attention they deserve(serious things), and yet we're talking about a joke tweet-that wasn't that funny to begin with. This guy doesn't belong to any affiliation, and he wasn't reporting some fake story to get attention-a la the National Enquirer. There are no victims in this, in fact in my opinion the only victim was the poor slob at TSN who probably got canned because he missed the tweet.

[UpstateNYRedWingsFan 42]

Lupul should sue this guy

[Rivalred 630]

With social media and blogging, there will need to be some restrictions or surveillance. Certain content is just not needed.

Opinions are like noses, everyone has one. Just don't get caught picking your nose in public and don't expect some sort of comment back

[wings87 1,290]

Lupul should sue this guy

Cleary could sue half of Red Wings nation.

[number9 3,297]

Yes that is terrible! SUE SUE SUE!!!

While you're at it, file some lawsuits against napster and tell everyone about it over AIM. Just don't forget to restart windows 98 after checking your dial up connection.

[HoweFan 74]

Well that was big of him to apologize to Lupul. lol. Not sure why you think the poor guys who made the comments about Schillings daughter should get more punishment. Come on he was just joking too.

[wings87 1,290]

Nvm

Edited March 6, 2015 by wings87

[kipwinger 8,524]

I'd probably erase that last post before that troll earns you a nice little suspension. I agree with your comments, but you'll be the one that suffers for it. Just trying to do you a solid.

[wings87 1,290]

I'd probably erase that last post before that troll earns you a nice little suspension. I agree with your comments, but you'll be the one that suffers for it. Just trying to do you a solid.

You're right, let my emotions get away from me.

Edited March 6, 2015 by wings87

[BottleOfSmoke 5,965]

Nvm

Aw shucks I missed some good s***.

Lupul should sue this guy

I lol'd

Edit: I love how it goes from "let's problem solve Lupul's visor issues" to "the man can NOT stop stroking it in front of others." Solid.

Edited March 6, 2015 by BottleOfSmoke

[DickieDunn 2,571]

There was a guy in Omaha, compulsive masturbater, he'd intentionally get a penalty and go to the box, and damned if he wouldn't mmmmmmmhmmmm!

[frankgrimes 1,836]

I love how professional athletes have stooped so low as to sue a high school kid for a joke he posted on twitter. Everyone is so uptight and can't take a joke anymore. It's a vulgarity I would assume and a statement made "not to be taken seriously" so Lupul and Phaneuf wouldn't have much of a case against the kid. TSN is a different story.

Athletes and celebrities and mocked much worse in more believable ways. One high school kid making a tweet with no connection to the players was obviously made as a joke not to be taken seriously and that's defense against defamation.

This has been blown completely out of proportion. Sure what TSN did was embarrassing, but Celebs demanding money from a guy posting a joke online is just plane stupid. I just hope Cleary never sees the stuff written about him on here.

The Phanuef , Lupul, and Cuthbert trio are now drawing even more attention to it, by being so bent out of shape over it. Plus you know how they say "where there's smoke there's fire," and these three are blowing a lot of smoke.

This is far from a joke and Phaneuf, Lupul and especially Elisha are having every right to sue this guyand Tsn.It's one thing to trash talk about players and whole other problem to involve their girlfriends, family. Same goes for Sharp it's nice to see players saying enough is enough and training it to the stupid social media trolls and the media itself.

As a nice side effect Tsn will no longer show that stupid Twitter tracker.

[wings87 1,290]

This is far from a joke and Phaneuf, Lupul and especially Elisha are having every right to sue this guyand Tsn.It's one thing to trash talk about players and whole other problem to involve their girlfriends, family. Same goes for Sharp it's nice to see players saying enough is enough and training it to the stupid social media trolls and the media itself.As a nice side effect Tsn will no longer show that stupid Twitter tracker.

I agree on the stupid twitter tracker. I wish cnn and other news and sports channels would get rid of them too.

But come on that tweet wasn't even that offensive, there is way worse crap floating around online. The only reason it got any play was because TSN screwed the pooch. Plus the team blows and the Toronto media is bored. They have a right to sue TSN,and any media outlet for a libelous story. That tweet however was not bad enough to get sued for.

Edited March 6, 2015 by wings87

[frankgrimes 1,836]

Same here trackers during games are just so stupid and annoying.

The problem with that tweet is simple: It's an intentional slander and if their lawyer can prove it the kid will have a problem, it's not like he's a teenager guy is 22.

Anyway I don't know how the trackers worked but usually I'd some someone would check the tracker before showing I allowing it.

[kipwinger 8,524]

Again, it's not slander if it's meant to be funny. Which it was. As clearly stated by the author. If I said, "Frankgrimes eats crickets", you couldn't sue me for slander even if you don't, in fact, eat crickets. Which is why so few people get sued for slander. Slander typically happens when somebody (journalists or people under oath) report something as fact which is actually untrue. TSN didn't report "Lupul banged Cuthbert". They just posted a tweet from a guy who said that. Which is irresponsible of them. But not illegal.

[wings87 1,290]

Same here trackers during games are just so stupid and annoying.The problem with that tweet is simple: It's an intentional slander and if their lawyer can prove it the kid will have a problem, it's not like he's a teenager guy is 22.Anyway I don't know how the trackers worked but usually I'd some someone would check the tracker before showing I allowing it.

Was it slander? In a warped way I guess,but he's not reporting it as fact. I just don't get what there is to gain from suing the guy? He's probably not wealthy (I'm assuming), all this will do is keep the story alive. And at some point will look like the rich attacking the poor. If they are that hell bent on suing,maybe they should sue Twitter for allowing the tweet. Go after deeper pockets.

Edited March 6, 2015 by wings87

[frankgrimes 1,836]

That's why I've written if a lawyer can prove that the kid could be in trouble. I mean he knew exactly what he was trying to do.

I've also tried to look at the poor versus rich thing and then I've put myself in the players shoes and absolutely sided with them. Reminded me on the famous the jury quote "imagine if it happened to your daughter" and damn right I'd sue that guy. I mean say about me what you want but if you involve my babe, family with slander a serious line is crossed. Add to that all the crap the players are going through in Toronto and it's the perfect storm

Edited March 6, 2015 by frankgrimes

[wings87 1,290]

That's why I've written if a lawyer can prove that the kid could be in trouble. I mean he knew exactly what he was trying to do.I've also tried to look at the poor versus rich thing and then I've put myself in the players shoes and absolutely sided with them. Reminded me on the famous the jury quote "imagine if it happened to your daughter" and damn right I'd sue that guy. I mean say about me what you want but if you involve my babe, family with slander a serious line is crossed. Add to that all the crap the players are going through in Toronto and it's the perfect storm

If the tweet was a threat of some kind or overly gratuitous,I'd agree with you. In this case though the tweet is fairly innocuous. I agree with the whole Toronto media perfect storm thing, it's just that other cities have tough media markets as well, and yet you never hear about players suing the media.

I think it was the Toronto media a couple years ago that made a big fuss about A-rod screwing strippers. And yeah A-Rod isn't the most likable guy, but he never sued. I get the players are frustrated, but right or wrong s*** like this comes with the territory.

[frankgrimes 1,836]

If the tweet was a threat of some kind or overly gratuitous,I'd agree with you. In this case though the tweet is fairly innocuous. I agree with the whole Toronto media perfect storm thing, it's just that other cities have tough media markets as well, and yet you never hear about players suing the media.

I think it was the Toronto media a couple years ago that made a big fuss about A-rod screwing strippers. And yeah A-Rod isn't the most likable guy, but he never sued. I get the players are frustrated, but right or wrong s*** like this comes with the territory.

I don't know who A-rod is so I can't comment on that.

I mean the Toronto media has managed to seriously piss off a guy who doesn't like to talk and has dealt with that s*** since he's joined the team. We don't hear about that because other markets aren't in the media 24/7, also other markets aren't trying to phone a players mother or go after a players girlfriend I really think - regardless of how handsomely those players are paid - this has to wear on you and when the best hockeynetwork messes up like this ...at some point it's time for players to say enough is enough. I don't understand nor am I interested how Twitter works but I'm really shocked that TSN doesn't have some sort of moderator or administrator to check the Twitter messages.

Yeah some stuff comes with the territory and it's for sure tougher playing for a big market team than one of the sunbelt teams but I think if stuff is going to far - and it did in that case - players (or moreso the team) should be allowed to stand up and say enough is enough. I mean Dubas had a heated conversation with Craig Button and yet it's nowhere to be found on TSN...that to me indicates the media can deal out but not swallow players/teams fighting back. Detroit, New York are original 6 big markets teams too but you never hear or read stuff like that, because the second something like this happens I'm sure Babs would take away media access from guys like Feschuk, Cox and all the other Toronto experts.

[Mckinley25 677]

This is far from a joke and Phaneuf, Lupul and especially Elisha are having every right to sue this guyand Tsn.It's one thing to trash talk about players and whole other problem to involve their girlfriends, family. Same goes for Sharp it's nice to see players saying enough is enough and training it to the stupid social media trolls and the media itself.As a nice side effect Tsn will no longer show that stupid Twitter tracker.

But c'mon Frank, don't you think people are just too easily offended? I mean they should just man up, right? Take it on the chin like they've got some balls! Men!!

[wings87 1,290]

I don't know who A-rod is so I can't comment on that.

I mean the Toronto media has managed to seriously piss off a guy who doesn't like to talk and has dealt with that s*** since he's joined the team. We don't hear about that because other markets aren't in the media 24/7, also other markets aren't trying to phone a players mother or go after a players girlfriend I really think - regardless of how handsomely those players are paid - this has to wear on you and when the best hockeynetwork messes up like this ...at some point it's time for players to say enough is enough. I don't understand nor am I interested how Twitter works but I'm really shocked that TSN doesn't have some sort of moderator or administrator to check the Twitter messages.

Yeah some stuff comes with the territory and it's for sure tougher playing for a big market team than one of the sunbelt teams but I think if stuff is going to far - and it did in that case - players (or moreso the team) should be allowed to stand up and say enough is enough. I mean Dubas had a heated conversation with Craig Button and yet it's nowhere to be found on TSN...that to me indicates the media can deal out but not swallow players/teams fighting back. Detroit, New York are original 6 big markets teams too but you never hear or read stuff like that, because the second something like this happens I'm sure Babs would take away media access from guys like Feschuk, Cox and all the other Toronto experts.

Listen if he wants to sue TSN or the Toronto media, more power to him. But suing the guy that posted the tweet makes little sense.

[frankgrimes 1,836]

I don't know who A-rod is so I can't comment on that.

I mean the Toronto media has managed to seriously piss off a guy who doesn't like to talk and has dealt with that s*** since he's joined the team. We don't hear about that because other markets aren't in the media 24/7, also other markets aren't trying to phone a players mother or go after a players girlfriend I really think - regardless of how handsomely those players are paid - this has to wear on you and when the best hockeynetwork messes up like this ...at some point it's time for players to say enough is enough. I don't understand nor am I interested how Twitter works but I'm really shocked that TSN doesn't have some sort of moderator or administrator to check the Twitter messages.

Yeah some stuff comes with the territory and it's for sure tougher playing for a big market team than one of the sunbelt teams but I think if stuff is going to far - and it did in that case - players (or moreso the team) should be allowed to stand up and say enough is enough. I mean Dubas had a heated conversation with Craig Button and yet it's nowhere to be found on TSN...that to me indicates the media can deal out but not swallow players/teams fighting back. Detroit, New York are original 6 big markets teams too but you never hear or read stuff like that, because the second something like this happens I'm sure Babs would take away media access from guys like Feschuk, Cox and all the other Toronto experts.

Listen if he wants to sue TSN or the Toronto media, more power to him. But suing the guy that posted the tweet makes little sense.

I don't think it will account to much maybe a bit of money TSN on the other side will be interesting especially because they are owned by Bell.

[wings87 1,290]

I don't think it will account to much maybe a bit of money TSN on the other side will be interesting especially because they are owned by Bell.

I wonder if the whole thing is too try and force the Leafs to trade them.

[vladdy16 2,154]

Damn!