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#1 Crymson

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:28 PM

I'd like to begin with an image:

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If any are wondering, this image lists Quincey along with all those on the Avalanche who are below him on the points list. That's right---he ranks just above Peter Budaj.

Those of my friends who are fans of the Avalanche are presently calling for Quincey's head. He is being called all manner of bad things, he recently spent 16 days in the doghouse, and he is apparently in danger of being pushed out of the defense rotation entirely once Foote returns; the Avalanche have several defense prospects who are NHL-ready, and Quincey is having a comically bad season after receiving such a bloated contract.

Call this post what you will, but yeesh---I've never seen a hockey player have such an awful start after receiving a contract that was, in fact, even bigger than he really deserved.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:34 PM

wow, a trolling thread from Crymson regarding Quincey. I'm shocked.

still trying to absolve Red Wings management of any responsibility for losing him for nothing?

Keep up the good work! :thumbup:

Luckily they made the right choice and we've still got Lebda and Meech as key components of our defensive corps.

Edited by haroldsnepsts, 29 November 2010 - 10:34 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:37 PM

still trying to absolve Red Wings management of any responsibility for losing him for nothing?

Keep up the good work! :thumbup:


Yes. Jimmy D and Kenny hired me to convince everyone here that they had no responsibility. They fear for their jobs when such people as you have grievances towards them.

Edited by Crymson, 29 November 2010 - 10:38 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:39 PM

Yes. Jimmy D and Kenny hired me to convince everyone here that they had no responsibility. They fear for their jobs when such people as you have grievances towards them.

I actually have no grievance with them. Overall Holland and Jimmy D are the best in the business. It's just funny that you have this weird obsession with explaining away one of their few missteps.

It's great to hear you're getting paid for it! Otherwise it would just be kind of sad.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:44 PM

I actually have no grievance with them. Overall Holland and Jimmy D are the best in the business. It's just funny that you have this weird obsession with explaining away one of their few missteps.

It's great to hear you're getting paid for it! Otherwise it would just be kind of sad.


It's definitely a nice pocket-liner. Thank you for your deep interest in this matter.

Edited by Crymson, 29 November 2010 - 10:45 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:49 PM

Quincey was a depth defenseman who had one decent year in LA and a pretty good one in Colorado.

It was the most minuscule of missteps in Wings management and isn't even worth mentioning. It was practically irrelevant.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:51 PM

nuh uh, it's a big big big big big big deal



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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:58 PM

I guess he is having a terrible season, but I still wish we kept him over Meech and Lebda.
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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:59 PM

I guess he is having a terrible season, but I still wish we kept him over Meech and Lebda.


For $3m per year?

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 11:03 PM

For $3m per year?


No, but he wasn't asking for that much when he was in Detroit.
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Posted 29 November 2010 - 11:08 PM

I'm guessing the whole point of this thread is to blow Holland and to make fun of the posters who wanted Quincey to stay.

However, Holland didn't exactly hit a home run by keeping someone like Lebda and Meech, who haven't amounted to anything themselves. And the jury is still out on Ericsson. Point is, Holland makes mistakes too, even if you think Quincey is some overrated bust who we were better off letting go.
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Posted 29 November 2010 - 11:11 PM

Didn't Holland say something along the lines off, that he did it to let Kyle get more time, to give him a chance to be an every day player?

I mean don't get me wrong, I would have kept Quincey over Lebda every day of the week, however I thought it was a doing it to let Kyle get more minutes elsewhere.

I could be wrong though.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 07:41 AM

i'll accept this thread simply because if quincey was third in defense points right now, there would be threads about how bad the management had f***ed up letting him go. you can't judge the quality of a decision like this until further down the road. obviously, this isn't the end of the story, but i think it's an important plot point as we weigh the decision as it happened.
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 08:23 AM

This.

Now (I'll repeat NOW) at present time, would I like Quincey over Meech or Lebda? Without question.

However, back at the time around when it was close to his time being up, he didn't do enough to separate himself from Lebda and Meech for one of those final or first reserve defensive spots/a permanent roster spot, whether it was fair or not with other factors (i.e. his decent playoff performance as a rookie). Sure, you could also always throw in that Chelios was holding up a roster spot when he was close to retiring, but I'm not going to pull my hair out over that. If management thought Chelios couldn't produce back then, they wouldn't have re-signed him.

In retrospect this didn't completely work out, depending on how you want to look at it. Is it as bad as some people are wanting to portray. Not really in my mind. Sometimes you take chances on fringe roster spots or trades or whatever that workout, and some don't.

Could management have performed better regarding this? Maybe, but it's nothing to lose sleep over or worth wasting time trying to figure out as there are no clear cut right/wrong answers here. If you are all about youth and wanting prospects more time, you're probably going to be pissed off about him getting traded. If you were accepting the fact that he was probably going to be no more than a 6th, 7th, 8th d-man (not saying that that was what he was going to be, just throwing vantage points out there), you might've been disappointed he left, but would've gotten over it soon after.

Edited by SouthernWingsFan, 30 November 2010 - 08:24 AM.


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Posted 30 November 2010 - 10:02 AM

Quincey was a depth defenseman who had one decent year in LA and a pretty good one in Colorado.

It was the most minuscule of missteps in Wings management and isn't even worth mentioning. It was practically irrelevant.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 10:20 AM

I'd like to begin with an image:

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If any are wondering, this image lists Quincey along with all those on the Avalanche who are below him on the points list. That's right---he ranks just above Peter Budaj.

Those of my friends who are fans of the Avalanche are presently calling for Quincey's head. He is being called all manner of bad things, he recently spent 16 days in the doghouse, and he is apparently in danger of being pushed out of the defense rotation entirely once Foote returns; the Avalanche have several defense prospects who are NHL-ready, and Quincey is having a comically bad season after receiving such a bloated contract.

Call this post what you will, but yeesh---I've never seen a hockey player have such an awful start after receiving a contract that was, in fact, even bigger than he really deserved.

He's sucked this season, but how about getting facts straight?

He was out 16 days with CONCUSSION.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 10:33 AM

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 10:47 AM

He's sucked this season, but how about getting facts straight?

He was out 16 days with CONCUSSION.

Shhh, why let facts get in the way?

Crymson said he's never seen a hockey player have such an awful start after receiving a contract that was bigger than deserved, so we have to assume he started watching hockey only seconds before creating this thread.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 10:55 AM

Shhh, why let facts get in the way?

Crymson said he's never seen a hockey player have such an awful start after receiving a contract that was bigger than deserved, so we have to assume he started watching hockey only seconds before creating this thread.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:05 AM

isn't he just coming back from being injured.give him time.





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