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Do you think Babcock will ever win the Jack Adams Award?


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#1 Stolberg

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:42 PM

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Or will the voters continue with the "greatest improvement from the year prior" theme? Measuring a coach's contributions to a team seems pretty tricky to me.

I think there is an assumption that the Red Wings will continue winning no matter who the coach is. Do you think that is fair/justified?

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:49 PM

I believe that if (when) we win the Central and/or the West, then yes. 2011 will be his year.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:49 PM

I believe that if (when) we win the Central and/or the West, then yes. 2011 will be his year.

Too stacked will be the excuse.

He should of won it his first year coaching.

Edited by dragonballgtz, 30 November 2010 - 05:51 PM.


#4 ricky0034

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:50 PM

nope

seems whatever he does won't be good enough

the Wings still managed the 5th seed last year even with all those injuries and he wasn't even a nominee let alone a winner

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:59 PM

The Jack Adams is one of the most meaningless (or veiled meaning at least) awards. Consider for a moment that Bowman only won it twice. Just think about that for a second.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:59 PM

Ya last year was his chance. Go figure the coach who won it lost a home game 7 to the coach who shoulda won the award.
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 06:14 PM

Not unless the Wings completely suck one year, then turn it around the next.

So no, he won't.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 06:40 PM

The Wings could win the presidents trophy and the cup for 3 years in a row and Babs wouldnt win it. The trophy is given to the coach of the team that improved most from the previous year. Even though Babs might be a better coach than the Jack Adams winner, the Wings were never bottom feeders. As sad as it all sounds, its true.
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 06:42 PM

I think Babs would rather have the Stanley Cup than the Jack Adams anyways...

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 07:34 PM

Babcock wouldn't win it if he coached the wings to a presidents trophy and a cup, even if they finished with a record year, and swept every single team.

In order to get the coach of the year award you have to have a team that otherwise, sucks.

By the time the Redwings suck, chances are good Babcock will be retired.

A more valid debate is....will Babcock make the HOF?

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 08:05 PM

A more valid debate is....will Babcock make the HOF?


he has won pretty much everything, but still has a long way to go.

guys like bowman and irvin coached 20+ seasons and 500+ wins



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Posted 30 November 2010 - 08:06 PM

He'll never win it because the Wings will always be a good team under him. I think he'll be happy with his Stanley Cups and Gold Medals :)

He definately deserves to win it. The jack Adams Award should be named :"Best Comeback Player of the year...errrr....team of the year.... errrrrr.... best coach award"
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 09:08 PM

No. The Jack Adams award should be called the MY TEAM SUCKS AND I STILL GOT THEM INTO THE PLAYOFFS AWARD. Babs has no chance because the Wings are expected to make the playoffs every year. It's meaningless anyways. I compare it to Trent Dilfer winning a Super Bowl. Does it make him better than Dan Fouts or Dan Marino who didn't win a Super Bowl? Hardly. I don't think anyone would say that Ted Nolan is a better coach than Babs.
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 09:15 PM

He should have won it last year getting us to the 4th seed with the depleted roster we had last year.

What kind of color is red? Red is a warning, a declaration, a color that says I'm ready to do what it takes. Red is focused and driven because red doesn't like second place. So what kind of color is red? Their kind.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 09:40 PM

I didn't even realize that until I saw this post. I just assumed he had already. I mean, he IS the best coach in hockey. There is no question in my mind about that. Maybe I'm biased or maybe I'm looking at the fact that he took the freakin Ducks to the Finals in 2003, won the Presidents trophy in 2006, won back to back Campbell Conference trophies and a Stanley Cup. Oh yeah and a gold medal. He's the best, that award is a joke.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:41 PM

Nm

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 12:04 AM

no.


but he will make the hall of fame so ill take the trade off

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 01:52 AM

The Jack Adams is one of the most meaningless (or veiled meaning at least) awards. Consider for a moment that Bowman only won it twice. Just think about that for a second.



Yep, I've pointed this out before. Bowman won in twice his entire career. To put that in perspective Jacques Lemaire, Pat Quinn + Jacques Demers all won it twice and Pat Burns won it 3 times. Those 4 between them won a grand total of 3 cups. To win it Bowman had to produce the '77 Canadiens and the '96 Redwings (132 + 131 points respectively).

Babcock couldn't even win it with the 2008 machine (1st in points, shots, shots against, goals against, 2nd in goals despite playing an entire month with Lebda-Lilja as our top pairing). He's going to have to produce a 60 win season, and even then its liable to be stolen by a coach who leads a team on a hot streak at the end of season to get in the playoffs.

Sucks for Uncle Mike for sure, pretty much the only thing missing off his resume. The HOF is a certainty in a few years.
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Posted 01 December 2010 - 03:49 AM

Turning the Detroit Red Wings into Cup contenders isn't exactly going to blow the minds of hockey writers. They're looking for more of a rags to riches story than riches to riches.

no.


but he will make the hall of fame so ill take the trade off


It's pretty early to say that so confidently. If Eric Lindros taught us anything it's that you can't count your chickens before they hatch.
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Posted 01 December 2010 - 03:51 AM

The guy is the best coach in the league.





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