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#21 cr00d

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 08:21 PM

Well we might actually see Miller gone but I doubt Eaves is. I actually think Hudler will be traded for picks before we lose Eaves.

Modano will be gone next year, Abby plays his third line center spot then Emmerton takes the role of 4th line center. Miller is gone and Mursak takes his 4th line spot and fills in in the top 6 for injuries. Or maybe Hudler is gone and we see a third line of Mursak Abby Cleary and a 4th of Eaves Emmerton Miller.


Do you have Helm playing on the top two lines?!?

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 08:30 PM

Do you have Helm playing on the top two lines?!?

Oh God I hope not, which is why i think both Eaves and Miller will be gone.
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Posted 08 December 2010 - 08:30 PM

Do you have Helm playing on the top two lines?!?


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Posted 08 December 2010 - 09:22 PM

more likely that miller will be gone and eaves will rotate with either mursak or emmerton



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Posted 08 December 2010 - 10:16 PM

2011/12:

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom
Franzen - Filppula - Hudler
Cleary - Abdelkader - Bertuzzi
Eaves - Helm - Mursak

(Emmerton)

Tatar could certainly make the team, ditto Smith, but as they still have year(s) to run on their contracts, no need when the team is already loaded. Frustrating for Tatar though, hopefully he takes it well.

2012/13:

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Cleary
Franzen - Filppula - Hudler
Tatar - Abdelkader - Mursak (sick line)
Emmerton - Helm - Eaves

Edited by Aussie_Wing, 08 December 2010 - 10:16 PM.

Ken Holland: Hes (Mursak) a young guy, provides energy, can skate, hes a puck hound.


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Posted 08 December 2010 - 10:49 PM

2011/12:

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom
Franzen - Filppula - Hudler
Cleary - Abdelkader - Bertuzzi
Eaves - Helm - Mursak

(Emmerton)

Tatar could certainly make the team, ditto Smith, but as they still have year(s) to run on their contracts, no need when the team is already loaded. Frustrating for Tatar though, hopefully he takes it well.


If Hudler continues his poor play, he'll be gone.

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom
Franzen - Filppula - Bertuzzi
Cleary - Abdelkader - UFA ($2M)
Eaves - Helm - Mursak
Emmerton

Modano's 1.5M + 0.85M (Hudler's salary minus the UFA signing) +a couple hundred thousand if you replace Miller and Salei with cheaper guys should be enough to re-up Jimmy.
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Posted 08 December 2010 - 10:51 PM

2011/12:

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom
Franzen - Filppula - Hudler
Cleary - Abdelkader - Bertuzzi
Eaves - Helm - Mursak

(Emmerton)

Tatar could certainly make the team, ditto Smith, but as they still have year(s) to run on their contracts, no need when the team is already loaded. Frustrating for Tatar though, hopefully he takes it well.

2012/13:

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Cleary
Franzen - Filppula - Hudler
Tatar - Abdelkader - Mursak (sick line)
Emmerton - Helm - Eaves

I would love to see Pulkinnen and Jarnkrok on the roster at that point, this is the first time Detroit could have a couple really young guys come in and learn from the big game.
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Posted 08 December 2010 - 11:01 PM

I would love to see Pulkinnen and Jarnkrok on the roster at that point, this is the first time Detroit could have a couple really young guys come in and learn from the big game.

Imagine this...

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Franzen
Tatar - Filppula - Pulkkinen
Abdelkader - Jarnkrok - Mursak
Emmerton - Helm - Eaves

:scared:

Edited by Aussie_Wing, 08 December 2010 - 11:01 PM.

Ken Holland: Hes (Mursak) a young guy, provides energy, can skate, hes a puck hound.


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Posted 08 December 2010 - 11:05 PM

Do you have Helm playing on the top two lines?!?

No haha forgot about him, put Emmerton as the 13th and Helm as the 4th line center and it works out.

Oh and I guess Jordan owens could really make some noise for a roster spot as well, he brings some real energy and a mean streak.

Edited by newfy, 08 December 2010 - 11:07 PM.

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 11:28 PM

No haha forgot about him, put Emmerton as the 13th and Helm as the 4th line center and it works out.

Oh and I guess Jordan owens could really make some noise for a roster spot as well, he brings some real energy and a mean streak.

Yeah but who would Owens beat out for a spot?

Abdelkader, Helm, Eaves, Miller, Mursak, Emmerton, iFlip, he can't seriously threaten those guys IMO.

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 12:21 AM

No haha forgot about him, put Emmerton as the 13th and Helm as the 4th line center and it works out.

Oh and I guess Jordan owens could really make some noise for a roster spot as well, he brings some real energy and a mean streak.

J-Oh is a RFA after this year, I hope the Wings extend a qualifying offer, but I don't see J-Oh making this team with all the depth we have.

Imagine this...

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Franzen
Tatar - Filppula - Pulkkinen
Abdelkader - Jarnkrok - Mursak
Emmerton - Helm - Eaves

:scared:

I'd rather have Nyquist in there somewhere ;) Boot Eaves, put Mursak on the 4th, Nyquist on the 3rd =]
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Posted 09 December 2010 - 12:34 AM

if pulkkinen ever makes it to the nhl

we'll finally have a forward on the point that doesn't suck



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Posted 09 December 2010 - 12:39 AM

Yeah but who would Owens beat out for a spot?

Abdelkader, Helm, Eaves, Miller, Mursak, Emmerton, iFlip, he can't seriously threaten those guys IMO.

Thats the thing, I dont know who he could beat out but he really seems like he could play on an NHL team.

I think we're better off calling him up to play on the 4th line then putting someone like Tatar down on the 4th. He's a prototypical 4th liner. I would rather see him on our 4th for the long run instead of letting him walk in favour of putting a skilled guy on the 4th for one season.

I could see him beating out iflip, maybe Miller, and maybe Emmerton for a spot in our bottom 6. Iflip is useless in a 4th line role, Miller is pretty redundant, Owens is more physical and will fight. If he can develop into a solid PKer then I think he will be more useful than Miller.

Emmerton has only really had this year as a good one. He is solid defensively though but there is potential that Owens could beat him out in that 4th line type role.

Owens looked damn good in preseason and earned some extra games with his play,if the wings thought he was a career ahler I doubt they would swap him for Newbury straight up because Newbury is a very good Ahler

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 03:11 PM

2011-2012

1. Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom

2. Franzen - Filppula - Bertuzzi

3. Hudler - Abdelkader - Cleary

4. Mursak - Helm - Eaves

13th - Emmerton


2012-2013

1. Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Franzen

2. Tatar - Filppula - Cleary

3. Mursak - Abdelkader - Callahan

4. Emmerton - Helm - Nyquist

13th Pulkkinen/Jarnkrok/Sheahan/Nestrasil/Ferraro who knows...
be about it!

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 03:14 PM

2011-2012

1. Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom

2. Franzen - Filppula - Bertuzzi

3. Hudler - Abdelkader - Cleary

4. Mursak - Helm - Eaves

13th - Emmerton


2012-2013

1. Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Franzen

2. Tatar - Filppula - Cleary

3. Mursak - Abdelkader - Callahan

4. Emmerton - Helm - Nyquist

13th Pulkkinen/Jarnkrok/Sheahan/Nestrasil/Ferraro who knows...

I don't think anyone seriously believes Callahan has third line potential.
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Posted 09 December 2010 - 03:31 PM

I don't think anyone seriously believes Callahan has third line potential.



I do...explain why he doesnt?
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Posted 09 December 2010 - 04:03 PM

I do...explain why he doesnt?

Well the biggest reason is because hes an agitator not a scorer, granted hes doing pretty good this season in the WHL, but in the WHL scoring isn't so hard, I mean you've had players get 200+ points in a single season. I see him peaking as a fourth line energy player or trade bait. The wings philosophy just has no place for the agitator in the top 9.
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Posted 09 December 2010 - 04:18 PM

I do...explain why he doesnt?

I'm with you. Callahan has good hands and a nose for the net. He might not be the greatest scorer on a third line but he is definitely looking like he hast the potential to develop into a third line complimentary guy.

He has been blowing people out of the water with how far his game has gone, whose to say he can't continue that development?

And Shaman since when does a third line consist of all scorers, last time we won the cup our third line was drake Draper and Cleary( I think Cleary). Agitators can play scoring roles, Ott had 20 goals last year, Avery can score, Cooke can score. All of those guys are third line material, why couldn't Callahan be?

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 04:22 PM

I'm with you. Callahan has good hands and a nose for the net. He might not be the greatest scorer on a third line but he is definitely looking like he hast the potential to develop into a third line complimentary guy.

He has been blowing people out of the water with how far his game has gone, whose to say he can't continue that development?

And Shaman since when does a third line consist of all scorers, last time we won the cup our third line was drake Draper and Cleary( I think Cleary). Agitators can play scoring roles, Ott had 20 goals last year, Avery can score, Cooke can score. All of those guys are third line material, why couldn't Callahan be?

Actually I could have sworn that our third line for the cup winning year had more Hudler and Flippula on them possibly some Mikael Samuelsson too.

PS Avery doesn't help your cause, hes the dennis rodman of hockey, a clown, an idiot and only hurts the game.

Edited by Shaman464, 09 December 2010 - 04:26 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 05:17 PM

Actually I could have sworn that our third line for the cup winning year had more Hudler and Flippula on them possibly some Mikael Samuelsson too.

PS Avery doesn't help your cause, hes the dennis rodman of hockey, a clown, an idiot and only hurts the game.

I'm not saying I want Callahan to be like Avery, just pointing out that he can in fact score goals and is a solid third liner.

And that third line was in 09 when we lost in the finals, 08 was Drake Draper and Cleary(?)

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