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#461 casey holmstrom

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:21 PM

this could be a looooong 4-5 weeks ladies and gentleman.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:22 PM

so you guys are bitching about the last 2 mins of the game? what about the other 58 mins they played and had the opportunity to play good and score goals?

agreed regardless whos in net the defense is letting in 4+ goals a game almost all of december. this is no way to win games unless we have hossa and datsyuk in our lineup

if the wings played solid defense, and let in 2 goals they could win every game cause the scoring is there

i miss the hoss. He sure was fun to watch play.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:26 PM

defense is how you win cups.

also datsyuk is not why we are losing games, we were losing games with him. defense please

Edited by brett, 23 December 2010 - 11:38 PM.


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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:56 PM

Wings just need to clear the screens and get down to block shots. So many fewer goals would be going in. I miss Lilja for that reason alone.
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 12:03 AM

Could I get some more Howie and less Ozzie, please?


Oh the guy who let in four goals the night before?

Goalies aren't the issue. Howard is no different than Ozzie right now.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 12:11 AM

"It's unfortunate for (Ozzie) we haven't been able to get him the win, but he's in the battle, too. We're all in it together.''


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Posted 24 December 2010 - 12:32 AM

Missed the game, but I can't be the only one making the connection between McCrimmon and the total lack of defense ever since he came here? In my mind that's the only reason world-class defensemen like Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall and Stuart can so often put in great individual efforts and still come up short.

Plus, Howard is looking very average. I hope Ozzie at least played well to justify him getting more starts.
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 12:52 AM

I hope Ozzie at least played well to justify him getting more starts.


Not according to this guy:

Chris Osgood. I'm saving it for last because this is a little painful for me. Chris, I have one message for you: I'm done. I'm done defending you. I can't do it anymore. Consider me an anti-Ozzie, Osbadite, whatever they are called. I can't take the fact I have no confidence in your ability to stop a puck anymore. I hate feeling like every slapshot from the boards has a good chance of going in. It makes me physically ill seeing you flop around in the crease and seeing your arm outstretched after the puck has already missed the net. But most of all, I hate the fact that every single game, you seem to give up a goal that a) should be stopped, and b) is scored at a time where a big save would ensure a Wing win. Tonight it was the third goal. The first one was screened: I get that. The second one was tipped in off Kronwall's leg: I can see how you missed that. The fourth one was a sick move that fooled you: happens to the best of them. But that third goal was a killer, and it was one you should have stopped. The Wings were only down 2-1, they had just finished killing a penalty, and you had a chance to get out of the first period (a period in which the team played like garbage) only down one goal, and you give up a goal like that: a slap shot from the boards with minimal screening. I want you to get 400 wins, and I want it to happen soon, because, as much as it kills me to say this: you're done. You no longer are an asset to this team on a nightly basis, and if you don't stop this "soft goal" crap, we are going to have no choice but to play Jimmy Howard every single game, and his arms will fall off by the time we get to the playoffs. Maybe I'm being overly harsh on you because you're the goalie, but I just can't do it anymore: you've hurt me too many times. I wish you nothing but success as you go for 400, and I will recognize the feat if/when you do it (see, I'm not even confident enough in you to say you WILL get it). But I need to see you WIN a game for the Wings, not have them win in spite of you. If you're pro-Osgood and you disagree, bring it in the comments. I just can't do it anymore.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 12:57 AM

I usually like "Winging It In Motown", but I came across that earlier and couldn't disagree more.

Jimmy Howard has been no better than Chris Osgood since the Red Wings struggles began. This team will improve when they decide to give a damn in their own zone again.
 
 
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 12:57 AM

Not according to this guy:


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Posted 24 December 2010 - 01:09 AM

I guess the moral of the story is, stop giving up four goals every single night.

Agreed.

When you give up four goals, the problem is bigger than losing Datsyuk.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 01:30 AM

i liked how loud the blues fans were



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Posted 24 December 2010 - 01:51 AM

I hate bloggers.


Osgood hasn't played well since the Wings lost Game 7 to Pittsburgh. Last season he had some of the worst stats any goalie has had in the past 10 years. This year, he's looking the same. Osgood is not a competent back-up.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 02:13 AM

well at the start of the month you guys were saying you would be happy with the wings playing .500 hockey.
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 02:30 AM

The Wings are only 6 points from 9th in the West. If the Wings go .500% for the next month, we'll be out of a play-off spot.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 02:32 AM

The Wings are only 6 points from 9th in the West. If the Wings go .500% for the next month, we'll be out of a play-off spot.

But if everyone plays 500 we're legit!
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 02:34 AM

Osgood hasn't played well since the Wings lost Game 7 to Pittsburgh. Last season he had some of the worst stats any goalie has had in the past 10 years. This year, he's looking the same. Osgood is not a competent back-up.


And Howard has been lighting up the rink with his play?

And the defense has been competent?

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 03:23 AM

Osgood hasn't played well since the Wings lost Game 7 to Pittsburgh. Last season he had some of the worst stats any goalie has had in the past 10 years. This year, he's looking the same. Osgood is not a competent back-up.


If Osgood is not a competent back-up then you must think Howard is not a competent starter.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 03:42 AM

He barely touched him!!! I haven't seen diving that bad since the last time I watched International soccer.

COME ON PK!


If you hook/hold/etc. another player, it's a penalty whether they dive or not. Diving is a penalty in its own right, and should be called much more often, but if a player dives on a legit penalty it does not negate the existence of the original penalty.

This year, he's looking the same. Osgood is not a competent back-up.


Osgood has been fine, and has outplayed Howard for the past month or more.

Could I get some more Howie and less Ozzie, please?


Not the way Howard and Ozzie have been playing, respectively. At this rate, it'll probably be the reverse.
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 06:09 AM

Lidstrom a minus player for the season, world is upside down... or maybe the age finally caught up with him.. probably a combination of both age and team can't play defense anymore.





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