1/10 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Avalanche 5

[Lovin Jiri Fischer 147]

Jeez- it's like everyone is on their man-period tonight. Pull a goalie after 4 goals in the first and a catfight breaks out.

Leave it to Raffy and the ladies here to keep us sane.

No kidding.

[Hockeymom1960 5,107]

awww poor baby,you sound upset

Awww I think you're the poor baby. You can go back to bed, it's past your bedtime.

[Jedi 1,865]

That's a hook?

[puckloo39 5,686]

Huge goal Raffy. Not done yet boys and girls.

halfway there!!

PK again...

[Creasemonkey 30]

Raf is gonna score a hatty to tie it up, just you wait and see.

And he'll do it from inside the penalty box, too.

[HankthaTank 1,100]

Take a deep breath and change pads, ladies. More to come.

[edicius 3,269]

Helm was going balls to the wall out there on that PK.

[titanium2 867]

Love hearing Bertuzzi get booed,he deserves every minute of it.

Love seeing you get banned.

[commadore183 103]

Please ban me.

Fixed that for you.

[edicius 3,269]

Yikes, Mursak...just shave your head, bro.

[Behind Enemy Lines in CO 11]

Well, at least it's nice to post on the game day thread during the game - technology is truly amazing!

[kook_10 1,705]

muskrat= "ice chhhokey been berry berry good to me"

[brett 1,029]

maybe helmer should play against duchene to match his speed

[puckloo39 5,686]

Muskrat and Raffi, with duelng hairlines.

Wings will come out strong in the 2nd, score right off the face off and then again next shift to tie it.

[ACallToArms 270]

I'm sorry that simpletons like you just can't seem to figure out that some pucks cannot be stopped.

The only one I did a facepalm is the one through the 5-hole. The others were major defense fails.

[gcom007 1,465]

I don't care what anyone says, I won't believe for a second that it's been smart to put so much pressure on Howard both mentally and physically. I've been complaining about it since it started and I called this happening. I'm no genius, it's really pretty damn simple to figure out. Goalies take a lot of time to develop and Howard's development went slower than most already in the AHL, but the NHL is a different game. It was absolutely insane to play him night in night out last year and then kick into the same habits this year after he clearly struggled in the playoffs.

WE KNOW JIMMY HOWARD HAS THE SKILL TO BE AN EXCELLENT GOALIE!!!!!!!

What's going to make that a moot point real fast? His head.

Say what you want, but they've done nothing but set Howard up for failure early on in his career. No way I'm going to buy that this guy isn't capable of being better. His head is a mess. You can see it in his eyes; it's anger, frustration and more than anything, fear.

He never should have been put into this position this early on. It was a stupid, absolutely idiotic coaching decision. Fans didn't have any patience and Babcock didn't have any patience; no foresight. Now the team is paying for it and more than anyone, Howard is paying for it...and it was never fair to him.

[russianswede919293 95]

Weak "Hook" on Raffi.

Nice to see Joey Mac strong early.

This is MacDonald's tryout for next year. If Ozzie retires I believe he will be in the mix to be the back-up in Detroit next year. How he fares over the next 2 months will show if he gets that consideration.

[puckloo39 5,686]

Well, at least it's nice to post on the game day thread during the game - technology is truly amazing!

hang in there! They are going to turn this around and win it for you!

[TheXym 2,606]

Time to regroup. They've come back from down by two after the first often enough. The Avs may come out and try to sit on the lead which would play right into the Wing's hands. Macdonald seems to have something to prove.

[BlueMonk 102]

Twice Detroit defensemen stepped up to make a hit and twice the puck is in their own net thanks to an odd-man rush. That play that led to Raf's hook, the two forwards got behind BOTH of the d-men. I mean, come on. Speed is one thing but that's inexcusable.

[WizardOfOz30 1,886]

Yikes, Mursak...just shave your head, bro.

He's going to try that comb over look first.

[Jedi 1,865]

awww poor baby,you sound upset

*sigh*

II. Basic Forum DOs & DON'Ts

· DO post constructively. If you can't add anything meaningful to a discussion, don't bother.

This goes for everyone, BTW. Let's talk more about the game at hand, and less about each other's posting styles, please.

[HankthaTank 1,100]

LGW and being simpletons on the goalie position really and truly just cannot go together. NO EFFFINNNNNGGGG WAY!!!!!

[Hockeymom1960 5,107]

I don't care what anyone says, I won't believe for a second that it's been smart to put so much pressure on Howard both mentally and physically. I've been complaining about it since it started and I called this happening. I'm no genius, it's really pretty damn simple to figure out. Goalies take a lot of time to develop and Howard's development went slower than most already in the AHL, but the NHL is a different game. It was absolutely insane to play him night in night out last year and then kick into the same habits this year after he clearly struggled in the playoffs.

WE KNOW JIMMY HOWARD HAS THE SKILL TO BE AN EXCELLENT GOALIE!!!!!!!

What's going to make that a moot point real fast? His head.

Say what you want, but they've done nothing but set Howard up for failure early on in his career. No way I'm going to buy that this guy isn't capable of being better. His head is a mess. You can see it in his eyes; it's anger, frustration and more than anything, fear.

He never should have been put into this position this early on. It was a stupid, absolutely idiotic coaching decision. Fans didn't have any patience and Babcock didn't have any patience; no foresight. Now the team is paying for it and more than anyone, Howard is paying for it...and it was never fair to him.

Do you have a panic button you're pressing?

[SuperNovaXll 124]

Muskrat and Raffi, with duelng hairlines.Wings will come out strong in the 2nd, score right off the face off and then again next shift to tie it.

Nothing worse then someone trying to hold on to something that isnt there.

Shaved head > Horse shoe