VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=548958 I'm a little fuzzy about the rules pertaining to IR, why did it take so long to place him on it? And doesn't being placed on IR force him to sit out 10 games or something like that? Oh, and they called up MacDonald to fill his roster spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 I guess ozzie is having surgery then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) Not seeing Datsyuk in the lineup for any amount of time is a strange sight, as he's missed just three games over the previous three seasons. Huh? Wow. That's true. Why did I think he missed a lot more? Edited January 10, 2011 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=548958 I'm a little fuzzy about the rules pertaining to IR, why did it take so long to place him on it? And doesn't being placed on IR force him to sit out 10 games or something like that? Oh, and they called up MacDonald to fill his roster spot. I'm fairly certain that they can place a player on LTIR retroactively to his injury date. So the 9 games (19 days, including today) that he's already missed will count toward the requirements of missed games/days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 I'm fairly certain that they can place a player on LTIR retroactively to his injury date. So the 9 games (19 days, including today) that he's already missed will count toward the requirements of missed games/days. You are 100% correct sir... they might not retroactive his IR all the way back though, I'm sure they worked it out with doctors so that his LTIR will be ending right around the time he is expected back... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey23 79 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 They put him on short term IR not LTIR. Short term is 7 days and opens a roster spot but doesn't give cap relief. So they just did it to give a roster spot for Macdonald, knowing Datsyuk won't be back within 7 days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 Wait I thought they placed him on the IR that lasts for seven days. It doesn't say anything about LTIR in that NHL article. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 They put him on short term IR not LTIR. Short term is 7 days and opens a roster spot but doesn't give cap relief. So they just did it to give a roster spot for Macdonald, knowing Datsyuk won't be back within 7 days. Why not LTIR him at this point though to be honest? Frees up the roster spot as well and it's not like he'll be ready before they can lift it, especially if they retroactive it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Ruff 47 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) It's about time for Yahoo hockey pools Edited January 10, 2011 by T-Ruff 1 Esquire reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted January 10, 2011 I'm not sure why Holland doesn't put all the injured players on LTIR to free up cap space, which (i think) will pay for Modano's bonus that will count against the cap next year (like the Toews deal), or am I wrong? Then again, Modano may not get his bonus for not playing 'X' amount of regular season games. I wonder if there is a cause in Dats/Stuey/Cleary that says if they get placed on LTIR, they lose bonuses? So maybe out of respect Holland does not put them on LTIR so they get their money. ...or am I looking too deep into things? I just don't understand why not place the players on LTIR when they know they will not return anytime soon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 I guess ozzie is having surgery then yep thats what i got out of it, or at least he will need some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted January 10, 2011 I'm not sure why Holland doesn't put all the injured players on LTIR to free up cap space, which (i think) will pay for Modano's bonus that will count against the cap next year (like the Toews deal), or am I wrong? Then again, Modano may not get his bonus for not playing 'X' amount of regular season games. I wonder if there is a cause in Dats/Stuey/Cleary that says if they get placed on LTIR, they lose bonuses? So maybe out of respect Holland does not put them on LTIR so they get their money. ...or am I looking too deep into things? I just don't understand why not place the players on LTIR when they know they will not return anytime soon... LTIR doesn't free up cap space. It allows the team to temporarily exceed the salary cap by the amount that the player's cap hit is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 I'm not sure why Holland doesn't put all the injured players on LTIR to free up cap space, which (i think) will pay for Modano's bonus that will count against the cap next year (like the Toews deal), or am I wrong? Then again, Modano may not get his bonus for not playing 'X' amount of regular season games. I wonder if there is a cause in Dats/Stuey/Cleary that says if they get placed on LTIR, they lose bonuses? So maybe out of respect Holland does not put them on LTIR so they get their money. ...or am I looking too deep into things? I just don't understand why not place the players on LTIR when they know they will not return anytime soon... That's not how cap relief works, you don't get additional capspace from it, it just allows teams to stay cap compliant while a player is out for call-ups, but they must become cap compliant the minute the player is off IR... also, bonuses very rarely go off of games played, but even if they did, it would still be just that - games played, not games active. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 There is no need to put a player on IR or LTIR unless you have 23 players on the active roster and you need to call up another player. Datsyuk, Modano, Cleary, Stuart,etc... not being put on LTIR isn't bad managing on Holland's part, it's just that it's not needed. If the Wings need a player to be called up, you'll see a player put on IR (Which last for at least 7 days) and if we need cap space, you'll see a player retroactive to his injury be place on LTIR (at least 30 days/10games). Got it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 Pretty sure Modano will not be getting any of his bonus clauses this year. Maybe one for making it deeper in the playoffs, but for veteran skaters it is usually performance and games played based. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey23 79 Report post Posted January 11, 2011 Pretty sure Modano will not be getting any of his bonus clauses this year. Maybe one for making it deeper in the playoffs, but for veteran skaters it is usually performance and games played based. Modano's bonuses are... $150,000 for playing in 40 games $100,000 for playing in 55 games $125,000 for Round 1 playoff win $125,000 for Round 2 playoff win So there's still a chance that he'll play in 40 games and we all hope he gets the last 2 bonuses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites