VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) Can you imagine how good Nabakov could be with a team in front of him that doesn't choke in the playoffs? EDIT: I know he'd be coming in to replace Osgood as the backup, but part of me seriously believes he'll end up stealing the Number 1 spot from Howard unless Howard really picks up his play. Either way, a great 1-2 punch. Edited January 20, 2011 by VM1138 4 EuroWing, GoWings1905, Vladifan and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 Legged RedWing 367 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 ah man i'd love to see this. as much i have bashed nabby over the years, i would take him with open arms just like bert if he performs decent. this could really be beneficial and i dont think holland would waste his time if he wasnt pretty sure he would clear waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 you don't think yzerman talked to holand before hand? I bet he did. And I bet other teams that might have considered putting in a waiver request wouldn't have. That would have come through the former working relationship between the two, nothing more. You think Stan Bowman would have called Kenny if he were the one putting in the waiver request, or Jon Davidson? Doubt it. I'm not buying into the whole "The power of Kenny compels them" theory on getting Nabby through waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Unfortunately that sentiment is not shared by all on this site. Do Hawks fans care about their team or do they just care about screwing the Wings? Judging by the fact that they chant "Detroit sucks" during non-Detroit games and even during their Cup parade, I'd rule in favor of the latter. 2 Rick D and sleepwalker reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 you don't think yzerman talked to holand before hand? I bet he did. Agreed... Mursak, Tatar, IFlip, Emmerton, Axelsson, the list goes on and on, we had too many players and not enough spots, Ritola didn't prove worth keeping, so he put him through waivers and worst case scenario, he cleared and went to GR, but the Wings organization was not in his long term future either way... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfanatic4alltime 32 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Id love this IF it happened im still not going to get my hopes up seeing how he has to go through 24 other teams or so but if it happens im gonna be doing backflips lol and Howard he do it hawks fans only care about screwing the Wings, i mean they chant detroit sucks even when they arent playing us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Forced retirement If he's going to be good for the team then I'm all for it, I just hate that they'd be forcing Osgood out sort of like they did back in 2001. I don't see this as forcing out. I see it as the Wings covering their own butts for if Howard goes down again or if Ozzie cannot come back. Force out would be if Ozzie was healthy and they did this. Ozzie's body crapped out on him this year, that is what would be forcing him out, not this move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Seriously, it's not forcing Ozzie out if Ozzie is going to be out the rest of the season. We need a backup. I doubt they're giving Nabby a multi-year deal. That would be forcing out Ozzie. 1 Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syntax 359 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Is that why Stevie laid off claiming Ritola off waivers? Oh wait... Yes, because Ritola has proven himself to be able to play on the same level as Nabbie, obviously. you don't think yzerman talked to holand before hand? I bet he did. Same here. And I bet other teams that might have considered putting in a waiver request wouldn't have. That would have come through the former working relationship between the two, nothing more. You think Stan Bowman would have called Kenny if he were the one putting in the waiver request, or Jon Davidson? Doubt it. I'm not buying into the whole "The power of Kenny compels them" theory on getting Nabby through waivers. I think there is more communication and 'back-room' deals going on than we know about. That's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) Are you going to keep playing that card? Yet, other goalies have had the same workload put on them and still managed to have postseason success. Maybe Nabokov's weakness is mental strength. So sorry that I'm not bowing down to you. The game is changing. Teams that rely on one goaltender to get them through the regular season are finding that it is harder to find success in the playoffs. San Jose found that out when they started to score on themselves. Edited January 20, 2011 by Howard He Do It?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Are you going to keep playing that card? Yet, other goalies have had the same workload put on them and still managed to have postseason success. Maybe Nabokov's weakness is mental strength. Name ONE in the last decade that has pulled that workload and won a cup short of Brodeur? Better yet, name ONE that's done that in the last decade that was over 30... it IS irresponsible for a team to play a goalie that much and expect him to be fresh come playoffs... 1 Casey reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) And I bet other teams that might have considered putting in a waiver request wouldn't have. That would have come through the former working relationship between the two, nothing more. You think Stan Bowman would have called Kenny if he were the one putting in the waiver request, or Jon Davidson? Doubt it. I'm not buying into the whole "The power of Kenny compels them" theory on getting Nabby through waivers. It had nothing to do with the "POWER" of Kenny. I don't even buy that. It's the respect that Yzerman and kenny had for each other and we really couldn't keep him here so why not. Yzerman is still detroit no matter where he goes and im sure kenny and everyone else feels the same. Edited January 20, 2011 by hillbillywingsfan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) Front lines are depleted, D is hurting, the goalie situation is less than ideal, and the 1st move they DO make is getting a tender? F/D is needed before this I thought or roast McCrummy and get a new defensive coach in here. Edited January 20, 2011 by Rivalred 1 edicius reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 And I bet other teams that might have considered putting in a waiver request wouldn't have. That would have come through the former working relationship between the two, nothing more. You think Stan Bowman would have called Kenny if he were the one putting in the waiver request, or Jon Davidson? Doubt it. I'm not buying into the whole "The power of Kenny compels them" theory on getting Nabby through waivers. I agree; GMs are in the winning business, they aren't about to pass up on opportunities to try and better their team just because the other guy is a buddy of theirs. What I do think Kenny is trying to do, or at least was speculated by Bob McKenzie, is create a contract that in some way makes Nabby unattractive (or unavailable? I don't know) to other teams. What that could be, I can't begin to speculate. But we might anticipate something clever from the pioneer of the "billion year contract with throwaway years at the end" that Hank and Franzen currently enjoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Front lines are depleted, D is hurting, the goalie situation is less than ideal, and the 1st move they DO make is getting a tender? Need for a F/D is needed before this I thought or can McCrummy and get a new defensive coach in here. We are only missing Stuart on defense, so I wouldn't say that they are hurting like the forwards are. Also, the Wings will be getting Datsyuk and Cleary back relatively soon, maybe before the break. Osgood is out long term, perhaps for the rest of the season, so I would say the goalie is the #1 concern right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Forgot to add Deja Vu 3 starting tenders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingskiddo 3 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 all i am going to say is holland has a scheme in his brain... ps what twitter accounts should i be following? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drumnj 459 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Guessing there is something in deal to "discourage" other teams from claiming Nabby on waivers, but will it fly with NHL? Just a guess tho. McKenzie: Twitter It'll probably be like a NMC and some crazy bonus value Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Forgot to add Deja Vu 3 starting tenders Not at all, VERY different situation, Ozzie is likely done for year/career and Nabby would be a backup, knowing his role coming in, just with a chance to unseat Jimmy if he falters - Keeps Nabby hungry and Jimmy sharp - win/win 1 HankthaTank reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Love this move. Puts Osgood in the retirement category, gives us a reasonably reliable goalie, and someone for Jimmy to compete with while sagging. 1 HankthaTank reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 20, 2011 It'll probably be like a NMC and some crazy bonus value Perhaps a multi-year deal too. That could scare some teams away considering his number in the KHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Love this move. Puts Osgood in the retirement category, gives us a reasonably reliable goalie, and someone for Jimmy to compete with while sagging. Ozzie can retire at years end... he'd need to LTIR for the remainder of the year this year while still being "active" otherwise, the caphit messes us up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 Legged RedWing 367 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 this forum is blowing up right now. this is/could be the biggest red wings news since the hossa signing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted January 20, 2011 I agree; GMs are in the winning business, they aren't about to pass up on opportunities to try and better their team just because the other guy is a buddy of theirs. What I do think Kenny is trying to do, or at least was speculated by Bob McKenzie, is create a contract that in some way makes Nabby unattractive (or unavailable? I don't know) to other teams. What that could be, I can't begin to speculate. But we might anticipate something clever from the pioneer of the "billion year contract with throwaway years at the end" that Hank and Franzen currently enjoy. Think Kenny could structure a contract with enough bonus incentives large enough that would hit next year's cap to make teams balk at a waiver request yet be almost impossible to hit if Nabby played in Detroit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 20, 2011 this forum is blowing up right now. this is/could be the biggest red wings news since the hossa signing. I think it's just because people are finally getting to talk about Red Wings news that isn't injury related. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
