haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 So I guess guys can still pull a Sundin or Neidermayer, which I think is worse than this Nabokov situation. Also didn't his Russian team just flat out get rid of him? Sounds to me they should be able to avoid the rule. But that little runt Bettman likes to act like a big shot. I thought they said he came back to the states for family reasons? As for Niedermayer, he didn't do anything that was shady in terms of the CBA, he just sort of put his team in a bind by not deciding for so long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Zombos Ghost 82 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 now can we get Fedorov back. We need an enforcer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 119 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Maybe a "I'll only play for Detroit, don't claim me" vibe. He seemed to burn bridges with Philadelphia and obviously in San Jose (since Niittymäki just went on IR), so the list of Cup contenders with a goaltender need dries up pretty quickly. If that is the case I will withdraw the last few posts I made.. Because this doesn't seem very Holland like if you just go out and bait other teams to claim a guy off waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 now can we get Fedorov back. We need an enforcer. OMGGZZZZZ I KNOW RIGHT!!!!1 I agree with the need for more Russians, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 True to a point, but the main offseason issues with Nabokov was money and term and then waiting too long before compromising wasn't an option and openings dried up. I can't see a scenario where Nabokov would willingly sign with a team that isn't a Cup contender and that immediately eliminates a large portion of the league (the ones with obvious goaltending needs). But he's been a free agent for a while now. And he's stated he wants to play in the NHL. Plus, Nabakov requested to be released because of his family issues. He wants to be back in North America. so doubt since being a free agent money has had anything to do with being signed, which is why i think if a team wanted him by now, he would have been signed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 This team needs more Russians. I was just thinking about that too. Salei is pretty much Russian right? Markov too but other than them they haven't really dealt with many Russians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Zombos Ghost 82 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 OMGGZZZZZ I KNOW RIGHT!!!!1 I agree with the need for more Russians, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) I thought they said he came back to the states for family reasons? All I read was they parted ways, which I wondered was a nice way to say the team told him "bye bye". Maybe after living in the USA for a while, after spending a few months in Russia again he was, "What was I thinking coming back here?" Edited January 21, 2011 by Barrie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,048 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 But he's been a free agent for a while now. And he's stated he wants to play in the NHL. Of course he has, but I was referring to his offseason negotiating duel with Philadelphia that went on for weeks. When Philadelphia decided to look within Nabokov didn't have options where money was good and the KHL came calling with bags of cash. Obviously he's realized money isn't everything and we find ourselves where we are today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achildr1 255 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Things to consider... Kenny has some serious man love for Chris Osgood and we are a pretty upstanding organization. I have a hard time believing Kenny is doing this knowing he has about a 3.67% chance that no one picks up Evgeni. If that were the case, he probably just nearly killed Jimmy Howard's (what I believe to be) fragile confidance. All of a sudden, in one high risk (goalie moral wise) move, Osgood probably thinks Kenny believes his season (or career) is over, Jimmy thinks he isn't/cant be THE guy, and McDonald thinks he can't even be a backup during an injury. Since we've explored most other crazy scenarios, its seems that is indeed what is happening or the other 27 teams have been told by Nabby's agent that he won't play for them. I also think its pretty far fetched that we would negotiate with Nabby 100% for another team in hopes that they would put Johan Hedberg or some other journeyman backup on the trade block for us. NJ knows theyd have first dibs on waivers, why dont they sign him? Why go through this mess. 1 Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 I was just thinking about that too. Salei is pretty much Russian right? Markov too but other than them they haven't really dealt with many Russians. Kolosov is basically Russian. Great avatar, you know the season premier is tonight right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 All I read was they parted ways, which I wondered was a nice way to say the team told him "bye bye". Maybe after living in the USA for a while, after spending a few months in Russia again he was, "What was I thinking coming back here?" I think one of his kids has health issues and the family didn't go to Russia/KHL with him. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Getting a lot of conflicting info here... but if all the presented info is true, I just don't see 27 other teams passing on him for that amount of money. I really don't want the Hawks to sign him. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Kolosov is basically Russian. Great avatar, you know the season premier is tonight right? Still the first season just back from break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,048 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Things to consider... Kenny has some serious man love for Chris Osgood and we are a pretty upstanding organization. I have a hard time believing Kenny is doing this knowing he has about a 3.67% chance that no one picks up Evgeni. If that were the case, he probably just nearly killed Jimmy Howard's (what I believe to be) fragile confidance. All of a sudden, in one high risk (goalie moral wise) move, Osgood probably thinks Kenny believes his season (or career) is over, Jimmy thinks he isn't/cant be THE guy, and McDonald thinks he can't even be a backup during an injury. Since we've explored most other crazy scenarios, its seems that is indeed what is happening or the other 27 teams have been told by Nabby's agent that he won't play for them. I also think its pretty far fetched that we would negotiate with Nabby 100% for another team in hopes that they would put Johan Hedberg or some other journeyman backup on the trade block for us. NJ knows theyd have first dibs on waivers, why dont they sign him? Why go through this mess. Agreed on virtually all of this. It seems to me that the most likely thing is that Osgood's surgery, despite Holland's quotes today, was more intensive than previously believed. (Besides, Holland needs to play his cards close to his vest until something happens if it does, because he can't just let it be known if Osgood's rehab period jeopardizes his season.) I would like to think Howard would rise to the challenge, and I ultimately think he would -- the Wings aren't about to pull the rug out from underneath a goaltender they have spent so long molding into a potential Vezina finalist. As I mentioned earlier, all of this is very, very intriguing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Still the first season just back from break. Oh pish posh, you knew what I meant:p Where are people getting the idea that Holland is just doing this to mess with the other teams? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Getting a lot of conflicting info here... but if all the presented info is true, I just don't see 27 other teams passing on him for that amount of money. I really don't want the Hawks to sign him. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. Crawford is a good young goalie and Turco has a NTC. I don't see what they would gain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 This team needs more Canadians. Sign Emery instead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 After listening to Dregs on TSN just now, I think were gonna get Nabby. Theres a reason it's taking so long, there not sure why. And bigger news, Nabakov isnt the best FA goalie on the market right now. Emery is ready to go and his agent believes the interest is gonna pick up starting the next few days. Who knows, I'd definately like see Nabakov in the red and white though. Please don't compare Emery to Nabakov ever again lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Pavs has the influence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 not accourding to the people I have talked to. but if thats true that you cant trade for him then my bad but every one i have talked to said they can trade for him I talked to Gary Bettman today on NHL hour SiriusXM radio. You cannot trade for him without him going through waivers again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Sign Emery instead I most certainly did not write that! Plus, signing Emery is like signing Vince Young. 1 Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 I most certainly did not write that! Plus, signing Emery is like signing Vince Young. It's cause they're both black, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 I can't stand Emery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Maybe Kenny was kind of bored today at the office ... nothing much to do, no contracts to work on. He's thinking, "If we get him we get him, if we lose him, it took me and my staff 1/2 day of work." Why not generate a bit of buzz on LGW and TSN ... to remind everyone that I am still the Jedi Master 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
