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#121 puckloo39

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:09 PM

Getting ahead of myself, but he will backup Jimmy, correct? Assuming Ozzie's injury puts him out as long as stated. Or will they split the role as our goalies have done in the past?


that would be my assumption, that Jimmy is still #1, Nabs is back-up, or more like 1A/1B. I would see a split.

Nabby's a very good goalie, he's played for teams which dragged him down to where he had nothing left. The Wings won't do that to him. He will shine here.

This thread is racing right along in GF. Does that mean it's not a rumor?

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I hope it's true. Love me a Euro-goalie, you know? :blush:

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:10 PM

He'll have to take a deal that's at or close to the league minimum with some very specific bonus targets (likely involving his playing and winning a playoff series or something like that).

I'm not worried about his playoff history right now since he'd only be the #3 goalie on the depth chart come playoff time.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:10 PM

I don't think Holland was pissed that Ritola was claimed off waivers, honestly. It's not like we got screwed out of an all-star.

Unfortunately that sentiment is not shared by all on this site.

well looking on the blackCawks forum their fans are calling for them to pick him up just so that the wings wont get him=)

Do Hawks fans care about their team or do they just care about screwing the Wings?

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:11 PM

Is that why Stevie laid off claiming Ritola off waivers? Oh wait...

you don't think yzerman talked to holand before hand? I bet he did.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:14 PM

That's awesome to hear coming from a mod.

Being asked to start almost every regular season game is more than fatigue. It's irresponsible on the team's part. So yes, we are disagreeing. It's the sole reason why he wasn't able to perform at his best in the playoffs. So whatever you meant by "fatigue or whatever" I am disagreeing with. There is no whatever in this case and it's more than basic fatigue.


Are you going to keep playing that card?

Yet, other goalies have had the same workload put on them and still managed to have postseason success. Maybe Nabokov's weakness is mental strength.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:15 PM

Can you imagine how good Nabakov could be with a team in front of him that doesn't choke in the playoffs?

EDIT: I know he'd be coming in to replace Osgood as the backup, but part of me seriously believes he'll end up stealing the Number 1 spot from Howard unless Howard really picks up his play. Either way, a great 1-2 punch.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:16 PM

ah man i'd love to see this. as much i have bashed nabby over the years, i would take him with open arms just like bert if he performs decent. this could really be beneficial and i dont think holland would waste his time if he wasnt pretty sure he would clear waivers.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:17 PM

you don't think yzerman talked to holand before hand? I bet he did.

And I bet other teams that might have considered putting in a waiver request wouldn't have. That would have come through the former working relationship between the two, nothing more. You think Stan Bowman would have called Kenny if he were the one putting in the waiver request, or Jon Davidson? Doubt it. I'm not buying into the whole "The power of Kenny compels them" theory on getting Nabby through waivers.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:17 PM

Unfortunately that sentiment is not shared by all on this site.


Do Hawks fans care about their team or do they just care about screwing the Wings?


Judging by the fact that they chant "Detroit sucks" during non-Detroit games and even during their Cup parade, I'd rule in favor of the latter.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:17 PM

you don't think yzerman talked to holand before hand? I bet he did.

Agreed... Mursak, Tatar, IFlip, Emmerton, Axelsson, the list goes on and on, we had too many players and not enough spots, Ritola didn't prove worth keeping, so he put him through waivers and worst case scenario, he cleared and went to GR, but the Wings organization was not in his long term future either way...

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:17 PM

Id love this IF it happened im still not going to get my hopes up seeing how he has to go through 24 other teams or so but if it happens im gonna be doing backflips lol and Howard he do it hawks fans only care about screwing the Wings, i mean they chant detroit sucks even when they arent playing us.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:18 PM

Forced retirement :(

If he's going to be good for the team then I'm all for it, I just hate that they'd be forcing Osgood out sort of like they did back in 2001.

I don't see this as forcing out. I see it as the Wings covering their own butts for if Howard goes down again or if Ozzie cannot come back.

Force out would be if Ozzie was healthy and they did this.

Ozzie's body crapped out on him this year, that is what would be forcing him out, not this move.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:20 PM

Seriously, it's not forcing Ozzie out if Ozzie is going to be out the rest of the season. We need a backup. I doubt they're giving Nabby a multi-year deal. That would be forcing out Ozzie.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:20 PM

Is that why Stevie laid off claiming Ritola off waivers? Oh wait...


Yes, because Ritola has proven himself to be able to play on the same level as Nabbie, obviously.

you don't think yzerman talked to holand before hand? I bet he did.


Same here.

And I bet other teams that might have considered putting in a waiver request wouldn't have. That would have come through the former working relationship between the two, nothing more. You think Stan Bowman would have called Kenny if he were the one putting in the waiver request, or Jon Davidson? Doubt it. I'm not buying into the whole "The power of Kenny compels them" theory on getting Nabby through waivers.


I think there is more communication and 'back-room' deals going on than we know about. That's all.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:20 PM

Are you going to keep playing that card?

Yet, other goalies have had the same workload put on them and still managed to have postseason success. Maybe Nabokov's weakness is mental strength.

So sorry that I'm not bowing down to you.

The game is changing. Teams that rely on one goaltender to get them through the regular season are finding that it is harder to find success in the playoffs. San Jose found that out when they started to score on themselves. :hehe:

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:22 PM

Are you going to keep playing that card?

Yet, other goalies have had the same workload put on them and still managed to have postseason success. Maybe Nabokov's weakness is mental strength.

Name ONE in the last decade that has pulled that workload and won a cup short of Brodeur?

Better yet, name ONE that's done that in the last decade that was over 30... it IS irresponsible for a team to play a goalie that much and expect him to be fresh come playoffs...

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:23 PM

And I bet other teams that might have considered putting in a waiver request wouldn't have. That would have come through the former working relationship between the two, nothing more. You think Stan Bowman would have called Kenny if he were the one putting in the waiver request, or Jon Davidson? Doubt it. I'm not buying into the whole "The power of Kenny compels them" theory on getting Nabby through waivers.

It had nothing to do with the "POWER" of Kenny. I don't even buy that. It's the respect that Yzerman and kenny had for each other and we really couldn't keep him here so why not. Yzerman is still detroit no matter where he goes and im sure kenny and everyone else feels the same.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:23 PM

Front lines are depleted, D is hurting, the goalie situation is less than ideal, and the 1st move they DO make is getting a tender? :unsure:

F/D is needed before this I thought or roast McCrummy and get a new defensive coach in here.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:24 PM

And I bet other teams that might have considered putting in a waiver request wouldn't have. That would have come through the former working relationship between the two, nothing more. You think Stan Bowman would have called Kenny if he were the one putting in the waiver request, or Jon Davidson? Doubt it. I'm not buying into the whole "The power of Kenny compels them" theory on getting Nabby through waivers.

I agree; GMs are in the winning business, they aren't about to pass up on opportunities to try and better their team just because the other guy is a buddy of theirs.

What I do think Kenny is trying to do, or at least was speculated by Bob McKenzie, is create a contract that in some way makes Nabby unattractive (or unavailable? I don't know) to other teams. What that could be, I can't begin to speculate. But we might anticipate something clever from the pioneer of the "billion year contract with throwaway years at the end" that Hank and Franzen currently enjoy.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:24 PM

Can you imagine how good Nabakov could be with a team in front of him that doesn't choke in the playoffs?

EDIT: I know he'd be coming in to replace Osgood as the backup, but part of me seriously believes he'll end up stealing the Number 1 spot from Howard unless Howard really picks up his play. Either way, a great 1-2 punch.

Agreed.

Not knocking Howard by any means, but he wasn't himself last spring either, and from what I gather it'll be questionable as to Osgood's health/fitness once the playoffs begin.

I'd welcome Nabakov with open arms; he still has a few years left in him at the NHL level, and has gotta be hungry to put his days in the Bay behind him, and prove his critics wrong that he's a top tier netminder.

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