Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 All this is illustrating how dumb that waiver rule is. Players are just flat out denying to abide by it. Must be cause it's so "fair". esteef I don't mind the waiver ruler if the player has a contract with another team. But you can tell the NHL has a Canadian bias. You can sign players, playing in Canada and have them be waiver exempt, but a free agent European who isn't even under contract anymore, has to clear waivers. I wonder why my post was deleted along with some others. Don't worry, happens to me all the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsgirl001 983 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 ...uhhhh well this isn't good. What does he do if he doesn't report (to which I don't blame him)? Just sit on his duff until the offseason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey 145 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 I think he goes on waivers again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shady Ultima 40 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 In hindsight, what if Kenny made Nabby a 2 year offer (rest of this year and next) with No Movement Clause - since so many of you think that Holland will try to get him this summer. Wonder if a 2 year with NMC would have up the ante and made it a bit harder for other teams to claim him? I'm pretty sure NYI wouldn't have picked him up with DiPietro pegged as multi-million dollar starter. And ... since both Ozzie and Howard's contracts are up at the end of this year, we would have at least one goalie signed for 2011-12. Assuming Ozzie retires then, sign Jimmy and we'd have the best 1-2 punch in goalie. The only down side I can think of is if some team did claim him off waivers, he'd be unavailable this summer. What do you think ... did I out GM Kenny No, because if someone would have been more likely to claim him if he was theirs for a whole season, not less than half. All this is illustrating how dumb that waiver rule is. Players are just flat out denying to abide by it. Must be cause it's so "fair". esteef I'm honestly thinking, this was the whole point of this fiasco. I sense it was more Illitch's idea, because this rule is stupid. So we pick up a player, KNOWING he will get claimed. Now, like the Blues, after the season, Illitch and (who ever owns the Blues) will go to the owners meeting and demand that this rule gets changed. I don't mind the waiver ruler if the player has a contract with another team. But you can tell the NHL has a Canadian bias. You can sign players, playing in Canada and have them be waiver exempt, but a free agent European who isn't even under contract anymore, has to clear waivers. Actually, seeing as Wellwood is a Canadian player... you're completely wrong. If the player is playing in Canada, he's still within the boundaries of the NHL. There are Canadian teams right? I mean, if a player wasn't signed by any team in the offseason, and joins some other professional league in the states, and gets picked up halfway through the season, he's not going through waivers. It's only if the player was playing in Europe. As Wellwood, Svatos and Nabokov were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I Red Wings I 40 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 ESPN's Scott Burnside tweeted, "Guess after all those Stanley Cups and Vezinas Nabokov can afford to snub the Isles. Oh wait." 1 Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drwscc 212 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 Dude, noone wants to go to the Isles. Burnside is talking out of his butt. 1 Datsyuk Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deltawing 12 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 Burnside is an idiot and a not so stealth Wings hater and Pens lover. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 I think he would enjoy Kansas City. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey 145 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 I think he would enjoy Kansas City. Everything's up to date in Kansas City! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trollface.jpg 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) I've already swallowed that pill; Doug Wilson is an idiot. Quit hating on the Isles though, you knew Nabby would never pass through waivers at that low of a cap hit Edited January 22, 2011 by Trollface.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
REDHASEK 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 After signing the Contact he should have want on TSN and said Who ever Claims me I'm not going to Report to you. The only Team I'm playing for is Detroit and that's it. And if he would have done that then i don't think anyone would have picked him up. He agreed to be with the Detroit Red Wings only. And they've got to change that stupid rule. I don't blame him for not reporting to the Isle's after all he agreed to be with only Detorit and no one else. Garth Snow is the worst GM ever! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) Dick moves by the Islanders, really makes them look bad. I'm not sure why they signed him, they knew this would happen. I mean, his agent said he would report, but honestly, anyone with a brain knew he wouldn't go to a terrible team. And now to hold onto him? Man, the waiver rule is really ridiculous. Totally unfair. Even if they sent him through waivers again there are enough retarded GMs in the league to keep claiming him and make the process either take forever or ultimately get him to a more decent team where he would report. This also would make Nabokov look bad. He'd be the starter for the Isles (like he wanted) and said he would report. He can be excused this one time, but if he does get waived again and he keepsnot reporting, people will wonder why he didn't just state "don't claim me if you're not Detroit." EDIT: I feel really bad for the players exposed to this waiver rule. It seems totally unfair that you come back to resurrect your career with a strong season showing, and then some terrible team with which you'll get massacred every night and have no connection to whatsoever signs you and ruins your whole plans. Edited January 22, 2011 by VM1138 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brandon27 111 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) Dick moves by the Islanders, really makes them look bad. I'm not sure why they signed him, they knew this would happen. I mean, his agent said he would report, but honestly, anyone with a brain knew he wouldn't go to a terrible team. And now to hold onto him? Man, the waiver rule is really ridiculous. Totally unfair. Even if they sent him through waivers again there are enough retarded GMs in the league to keep claiming him and make the process either take forever or ultimately get him to a more decent team where he would report. This also would make Nabokov look bad. He'd be the starter for the Isles (like he wanted) and said he would report. He can be excused this one time, but if he does get waived again and he keepsnot reporting, people will wonder why he didn't just state "don't claim me if you're not Detroit." EDIT: I feel really bad for the players exposed to this waiver rule. It seems totally unfair that you come back to resurrect your career with a strong season showing, and then some terrible team with which you'll get massacred every night and have no connection to whatsoever signs you and ruins your whole plans. Well the purpose of the waiver rule though is to ensure that the weaker teams get a shot at players before the "rich". Its a good way to ensure parity throughout the league, which was one of the goals of the CBA several years ago. Football does the same thing, think back to Randy Moss this season. The issue here that's strange though, is Nabby was release from a different league, I dont see the reason there for him to have to clear waivers. That's the part that irritates me. The fact the waiver claim system exists, I'm fine with, but not in this situation. That being said, this looks good on the Islanders. Morons. Edited January 22, 2011 by brandon27 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 No, because if someone would have been more likely to claim him if he was theirs for a whole season, not less than half. I'm honestly thinking, this was the whole point of this fiasco. I sense it was more Illitch's idea, because this rule is stupid. So we pick up a player, KNOWING he will get claimed. Now, like the Blues, after the season, Illitch and (who ever owns the Blues) will go to the owners meeting and demand that this rule gets changed. Actually, seeing as Wellwood is a Canadian player... you're completely wrong. If the player is playing in Canada, he's still within the boundaries of the NHL. There are Canadian teams right? I mean, if a player wasn't signed by any team in the offseason, and joins some other professional league in the states, and gets picked up halfway through the season, he's not going through waivers. It's only if the player was playing in Europe. As Wellwood, Svatos and Nabokov were. Trust me, i know the rule and I knew Wellwood started off in Europe. I never said anything about Canadian players. I said Canadian contracts. So no, i'm not wrong, brah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krystal 41 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 Everything's up to date in Kansas City! I'd take Nabby on the Mavericks! xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 Ok so now what? I personally think it's pretty s***ty of th Isles to do that, I realize it's the nature of the beast in the business side of hockey but given NY's goalie situation I don't think they should have done that. So do we still have a crack at him or are we out of the running for him now? I just don't understand all the rules and everything in this rule. If we don't get him what is our next step? Do we just keep calling up GR Goaltenders or do we look somewhere else? I'd hate to have to make a trade for a goalie and especailly if it did come to losing a draft pick. I know the Wings have a lot of depth but I just don't like trading draft picks. So does anyone have any idea what we can do and where we go from here?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selliria 76 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 This whole situation is such a mess. I feel like I've just watched a new soap opera. Now I guess we have to wait and see if the Isles are gonna suspend him or put him back on waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 I personally dont think nabby would report to any team that wasnt playoff bound. he wants to be on a team that has a legit chance of actually winning the cup. Wings might still get him if he is waived. never know. dont really care anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 IDK if this has been posted, but Nobakov isn't reporting to the Islanders lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Original-Six 254 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 1 wingsgirl001 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 Ok so now what? I personally think it's pretty s***ty of th Isles to do that, I realize it's the nature of the beast in the business side of hockey but given NY's goalie situation I don't think they should have done that. So do we still have a crack at him or are we out of the running for him now? Lol, do you honestly think NY was the only team that put a claim in on him? I GUARANTEE you at least a dozen teams put claims in on him at the bargain basement price, of basically free. Wings had no chance, at least this season, of getting him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 So if the Isles suspend him, does he still take up a roster spot? esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atodaso 279 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 IDK if this has been posted, but Nobakov isn't reporting to the Islanders lol well this post officially has exhausted all of the misspellings of nabokov's name. i saw nabakov, nobokov and now nobakov. sorry, don't mean to single you out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trollface.jpg 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 I love this. Garth Snow is the master troll (second to me) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MulesWillFly93 199 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 well this post officially has exhausted all of the misspellings of nabokov's name. i saw nabakov, nobokov and now nobakov. sorry, don't mean to single you out. Hehe. Not to mention that it's pronounced na-BOE-kov, not na-BOCK-ov. And certainly not NAH-buh-kov (I am singling out Sting on this one). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
