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#41 CanadaBoy

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:48 PM

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#42 Majsheppard

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:51 PM

This has to have been planned... I wonder if someone has made a deal with the Wings to get this done...

Or maybe they were planning on trading for him right of the bat. Or maybe they really just wanted to play the long shot, or maybe they were using voodoo to stop people from claming him...

I am just confused...
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:51 PM

Bob McKenzie Twitter...

Nabokov's agent Don Meehan sent a letter to all NHL teams prior to signing saying Nabokov wants to be able to compete as a starter.


This was a favor for Meehan plain and simple

Edited by Hockeytown_Ryan, 20 January 2011 - 10:52 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:52 PM

this all makes my head spin. It's like Nabby is a white elephant gift, and we have to wait til people get done claiming him, until he's dead and we can keep him?

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I think I will just wait for Saturday to be happy or sad about this.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:52 PM

Should have sent a letter saying i want to goto the Red Wings :(

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:53 PM

Wings sign Nabby ...
NJ claims him and tries to trade him and must put him on waivers
NYI claims him and tries to trade him and must put him on waivers
Leafs claim him and tries to trade him and must put him on waivers ...
x26 teams ... all the way up to the Wings and we finally sign him ... :D

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:54 PM

This is just weird. I can't imagine that there's not more to this. Either Holland has reason to believe Nabokov will not get claimed or there's something else going on. I just can't imagine they would do this only to see him claimed Friday afternoon.


holland has something up his sleeve, no question.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:54 PM

They'd still own his rights until he fulfilled the contract, esentially forcing him into retirement...


Kind of risky though. Ken and Mickey were saying that Nabby cannot be sent down to the minors, and we already established that he can't be traded unless he hits the waiver wire again. Is it worth the risk to waste one of two, maybe three available slots on a goalie who refuses to play for you?
Granted, I doubt Nabby cares as much as we do where he ends up. I expect he's looking at the remainder of this year as an audition for next year.

So if a team was at their roster or salary cap limit and wanted to acquire Nabokov, would they first have to move a player, then pick up Nabby, or could they pick up Nabby first and go over the roster/cap limit for a couple hours to a day while they sort things out?

On that note: are there any teams who are so close to the Cap or are at their roster limit that picking up Nabby isn't feasible right now?

Edited by Echolalia, 20 January 2011 - 10:55 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:54 PM

NTC as well so no waivers again without her permission after his mandatory first round.

McKenzie:

Nabokov has a No Move clause in his contract with DET. Cannot be put on waivers (after tomorrow, which is req'd) without his permission


Edited by dragonballgtz, 20 January 2011 - 10:56 PM.


#50 Hockeytown_Ryan

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:55 PM

Wings sign Nabby ...
NJ claims him and tries to trade him and must put him on waivers
NYI claims him and tries to trade him and must put him on waivers
Leafs claim him and tries to trade him and must put him on waivers ...
x26 teams ... all the way up to the Wings and we finally sign him ... :D


Cannot be put on Waivers without his permission.... No Movement Clause

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:55 PM

Bob McKenzie Twitter...



This was a favor for Meehan plain and simple


This may be the only thing that makes sense to me.

I would be utterly shocked if he's still a Wing on Saturday. SHOCKED. If you're excited, you're setting yourself up to be disappointed.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:56 PM

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This was a favor for Meehan plain and simple


possibly, but does don really need a favor? look at all of his clients:

Justin Abdelkader, Detroit Red Wings
Luke Adam, Buffalo Sabres
Colby Armstrong, Toronto Maple Leafs
Jason Arnott, New Jersey Devils
Alex Auld, Montreal Canadiens
Keith Aulie, Toronto Maple Leafs
Sean Avery, New York Rangers
Dave Backes, St. Louis Blues
Josh Bailey, New York Islanders
Jay Beagle, Washington Capitals
Todd Bertuzzi, Detroit Red Wings
Paul Bissonnette, Phoenix Coyotes
Francis Bouillon, Nashville Predators
Drayson Bowman, Carolina Hurricanes
Dustin Boyd, Montreal Canadiens
Darryl Boyce, Toronto Maple Leafs
Tyler Bozak, Toronto Maple Leafs
Tim Brent, Toronto Maple Leafs
Eric Brewer, St. Louis Blues
Mike Brodeur, Ottawa Senators
Troy Brouwer, Chicago Blackhawks
Ilya Bryzgalov, Phoenix Coyotes
Gregory Campbell, Boston Bruins
Luca Caputi, Toronto Maple Leafs
Daniel Carcillo, Philadelphia Flyers
Brett Carson, Carolina Hurricanes
Erik Christensen, New York Rangers
David Clarkson, New Jersey Devils
Cal Clutterbuck. Minnesota Wild
Mike Commodore, Columbus Blue Jackets
Matt Cooke, Pittsburgh Penguins
Matt Corrente, New Jersey Devils
Ryan Craig, Tampa Bay Lightning
Matt Cullen, Minnesota Wild
Michael Del Zotto, New York Rangers
Drew Doughty, Los Angeles Kings
Jordan Eberle, Edmonton Oilers
Matt Ellis, Buffalo Sabres
Steve Eminger, New York Rangers
Jonathan Ericsson, Detroit Red Wings
John Erskine, Washington Capitals
Justin Falk, Minnesota Wild
Eric Fehr, Washington Capitals
Nikita Filatov. Columbus Blue Jackets
Nick Foligno, Ottawa Senators
Alexander Frolov, New York Rangers
Dan Girardi, New York Rangers
Tim Gleason, Carolina Hurricanes
Mike Green, Washington Capitals
Matt Greene, Los Angeles Kings
Nicklas Grossman, Dallas Stars
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Kristian Huselius, Columbus Blue Jackets
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Matt Moulson, New York Islanders
Chris Mueller, Nashville Predators
Evgeni Nabokov, SKA St. Petersburg (Formerly San Jose Sharks)
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:56 PM

Cannot be put on Waivers without his permission.... No Movement Clause

Yes once the contract is into effect. If a team claims him and tries to trade him he must go back through waivers per league rule.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:57 PM

Kenny called all GM's and basically threatened them within an inch of their life if they try to pick him up. He never contacted Burke figuring he would probably just end it on his own.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:57 PM

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This was a favor for Meehan plain and simple


So thats it right there. It was simply a move to get him back in the NHL. The fact that his agent actually addressed all the NHL teams with Nabokov's desired conditions means that he's open to playing with anyone.

Bottomline, he aint commin to Detroit..


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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:57 PM

Yes you do. Whoever claims him, can't trade him unless he passes through Waivers again. This has been covered about 100 times now.

Section 13.20 of the waiver section of the CBA - a player needs to be offered ONLY to the other teams that made a claim, before being traded... this is NOT the same as him going all the way through waivers again...

All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:

Here in this thread

Here in this one as well

Here in this one too

and finally

Here


Holland is a damn good GM. period.


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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:58 PM

Paul Bissonnette, Phoenix Coyotes

Wow....he is represented, eh?
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:59 PM

Yes once the contract is into effect. If a team claims him and tries to trade him he must go back through waivers per league rule.


if he gives his permission to be dealt Yes....

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 11:01 PM

Section 13.20 of the waiver section of the CBA - a player needs to be offered ONLY to the other teams that made a claim, before being traded... this is NOT the same as him going all the way through waivers again...


For players returning from Euro (Nabokov) who are claimed by another team after signing. That team can't trade him without waivers again.


http://twitter.com/DarrenDreger

Keep in mind, if Nabokov is claimed by a team and Nabokov doesn't like the situation, he can simply refuse to report and not play this year


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Posted 20 January 2011 - 11:04 PM

So thats it right there. It was simply a move to get him back in the NHL. The fact that his agent actually addressed all the NHL teams with Nabokov's desired conditions means that he's open to playing with anyone.

Bottomline, he aint commin to Detroit..


That's how I see it.....

Ken and Mickey were saying basically who ever gets him MUST carry him the rest of the season.... so He has to stay at the NHL level if he is claimed.

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If claimed on waivers by another team, Nabokov cannot be traded or waived again without DET having first option to take him back.







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