evilmrt 636 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 Nobody in the hockey world thought that a team that is out of the playoffs would have any use for a 35 year old goaltender for a period of 3 months. And how does that bode for Snow's future signings? Seems like players would be much less inclined to even deal with him. Signing a player when you know he doesn't want to play there...mmmkay.... yeah that makes for a great reputation.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 Nobody in the hockey world thought that a team that is out of the playoffs would have any use for a 35 year old goaltender for a period of 3 months. Apparently one person in the hockey world did. Honestly the Islanders goaltending situation seemed to get dire right around the time Holland signed Nabby, so the whole possibility fell in Snow's lap. But I seriously can't blame him for claiming a good and inexpensive goaltender when all his current ones are terrible or injured or both. This was a worst case possibility for Nabokov, and unfortunately for him, it happened. Still, he's a fool if he thought he'd be starting for the Wings this season and/or the playoffs. He would've had to clear 27 teams on the waiver wire and then clearly outplay Howard for the starting job. Those are two pretty substantial obstacles. And how does that bode for Snow's future signings? Seems like players would be much less inclined to even deal with him. Signing a player when you know he doesn't want to play there...mmmkay.... yeah that makes for a great reputation.... I'm not sure he actually knew that. Nabby's agent said he'd play anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingzman91 134 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 via the Dreger Report: "Nabokov remains firm on his decision not to report to the New York Islanders. Nabokov's representative, Don Meehan doesn't expect that to change and says his client may have to consider returning to Europe to continue his career next season if it's determined the Islanders retain his NHL rights." I kind of figured it would be a pipe dream that Nabokov would play out a full season at 570k. Well this might just end this topic, its been fun, but, I think Nabokov is officially done in the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 <br />Apparently one person in the hockey world did. <img src='http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br /><br />Honestly the Islanders goaltending situation seemed to get dire right around the time Holland signed Nabby, so the whole possibility fell in Snow's lap. But I seriously can't blame him for claiming a good and inexpensive goaltender when all his current ones are terrible or injured or both. <br /><br />This was a worst case possibility for Nabokov, and unfortunately for him, it happened. Still, he's a fool if he thought he'd be starting for the Wings this season and/or the playoffs. He would've had to clear 27 teams on the waiver wire and then clearly outplay Howard for the starting job. Those are two pretty substantial obstacles.<br /><br /><br />I'm not sure he actually knew that. Nabby's agent said he'd play anywhere.<br /><br /><br /><br />I wouldn't say Nabby's a fool for giving it a go... Snow may not get something for nothing here. Nabby's rights are worthless unless Nabby says otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCaptain19 49 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 snow embarrassed himself and the organization here. i think the people who say he had nothing to lose are forgetting this. because now he has nothing but a bruised reputation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 snow embarrassed himself and the organization here. i think the people who say he had nothing to lose are forgetting this. because now he has nothing but a bruised reputation. He embarrassed himself? Then what did Holland do? Snow is the one who currently has Nabokov under contract for $570k, not Holland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) <br /><br /><br /> I wouldn't say Nabby's a fool for giving it a go... Snow may not get something for nothing here. Nabby's rights are worthless unless Nabby says otherwise. Well in particular I meant if he thought he would be starting for the Red Wings in the playoffs. He would've had to clear waivers (extremely unlikely) and outplay Howard enough to convince Babs to start him in the playoffs (also unlikely. Babcock tends to have his horse and stick with it until painfully obvious it's not working). So a more realistic assessment of his situation could be sitting on the bench for the Red Wings, or being a starting goaltender for the Isles. It seems much more possible to outplay Dipietro in NY than Howard in Detroit, assuming Dipietro even stays healthy. Edited February 2, 2011 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drwscc 212 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 No, Snow has the equivalent of a Topps Hockey card with Nabokov's name on it,and it's worth about as much. Looks like Nabby will be heading back to Europe if they toll his contract, so what exactly did Snow get besides more of a bad reputation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 No, Snow has the equivalent of a Topps Hockey card with Nabokov's name on it,and it's worth about as much. Looks like Nabby will be heading back to Europe if they toll his contract, so what exactly did Snow get besides more of a bad reputation? Snow has a contract that Nabokov is not honoring. While Nabokov may not want to play for the Islanders, he claims to want to play in the NHL. If that's true, then Snow has a tradeable asset, one with good value, which he acquired for free. And anyone who thinks Snow is an idiot for picking up Nabokov not only shouldn't be an NHL GM, but shouldn't even be playing NHL GM because they don't understand that adding something for nothing is GOOD, even if the something you add turns out to be nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 via the Dreger Report: "Nabokov remains firm on his decision not to report to the New York Islanders. Nabokov's representative, Don Meehan doesn't expect that to change and says his client may have to consider returning to Europe to continue his career next season if it's determined the Islanders retain his NHL rights." I kind of figured it would be a pipe dream that Nabokov would play out a full season at 570k. Well this might just end this topic, its been fun, but, I think Nabokov is officially done in the NHL. When can he try again, if ever? And I assume Snow would still have rights to him? So if that's the case, probably never...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 When can he try again, if ever? And I assume Snow would still have rights to him? So if that's the case, probably never...? Snow doesn't have "the rights" to him. Snow has a signed contract. Nabokov can be traded and play the same night. If Nabokov wants to play in the NHL, but not for the Islanders, all he has to do is talk to Snow this summer about getting traded. For how long must I repeat myself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 Snow has a contract that Nabokov is not honoring. While Nabokov may not want to play for the Islanders, he claims to want to play in the NHL. If that's true, then Snow has a tradeable asset, one with good value, which he acquired for free. And anyone who thinks Snow is an idiot for picking up Nabokov not only shouldn't be an NHL GM, but shouldn't even be playing NHL GM because they don't understand that adding something for nothing is GOOD, even if the something you add turns out to be nothing. And anyone who thinks Snow isn't an idiot by picking up Nabokov not only shouldn't be an NHL GM, but shouldn't even be playing GM because they don't understand that adding a player who doesn't want to play for you will cause an irreconcilable rift between the player's agent, who manages half the league, and a team in desperate need of rebuilding. 4 dicksmack, VikingMark, Nevermind and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drwscc 212 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 Noone is disputing that, in a vacuum, and with a different asset, Snow made a smart move for his club. He needed goaltending, and there was a pretty good goalie on waivers. The problem comes in when you factor in the contract he signed, which is definitely a "half year for a playoff team" contract, and not an "I don't care where I go, I just want to play" contract. If ANY playoff bound team had picked Nabby up, he'd either be playing now, or be sitting on the bench, because a Wings rival would have grabbed him, just so the Wings couldn't. The fact that a team with no hope of making the playoffs, and a history of mismanagement, picked him up is where the problem lies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 Snow has a contract that Nabokov is not honoring. While Nabokov may not want to play for the Islanders, he claims to want to play in the NHL. If that's true, then Snow has a tradeable asset, one with good value, which he acquired for free. Am I the only one who thinks those two statements are contradictory? Now, who wants to bet that Snow picks up Mike Smith, now that the Lightning have put him on waivers? 1 Konnan511 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drwscc 212 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 Stortini was also waived. The Isles need him too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) Snow doesn't have "the rights" to him. Snow has a signed contract. Nabokov can be traded and play the same night. If Nabokov wants to play in the NHL, but not for the Islanders, all he has to do is talk to Snow this summer about getting traded. For how long must I repeat myself? If im not mistaken....nabby didn't sign a contract with the isle like you keep saying...he signed with the wings. Snow has a contract that Nabokov is not honoring. While Nabokov may not want to play for the Islanders, he claims to want to play in the NHL. If that's true, then Snow has a tradeable asset, one with good value, which he acquired for free. And anyone who thinks Snow is an idiot for picking up Nabokov not only shouldn't be an NHL GM, but shouldn't even be playing NHL GM because they don't understand that adding something for nothing is GOOD, even if the something you add turns out to be nothing. He is an idiot....i can say that....so? Im no GM and neither should you be. Edited February 2, 2011 by hillbillywingsfan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atodaso 279 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 ... adding something for nothing is GOOD, even if the something you add turns out to be nothing. so, why didn't the devils and/or oilers put in a claim too? by your logic, they should have. right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selliria 76 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 so, why didn't the devils and/or oilers put in a claim too? by your logic, they should have. right? The Devils and the Oilers goalie situation was nowhere near as dire as the Islanders was. Everybody continues to forget that the goalie the Islanders were relying on got injured the night before Nabby was placed on waivers. I really don't understand how anybody could NOT see why Snow would grab Nabokov. You have to have some awfully rosy red glasses. If im not mistaken....nabby didn't sign a contract with the isle like you keep saying...he signed with the wings. He signed with the Wings FULLY AWARE that any team ranked below the Wings could scoop him up off of waivers. He signed that contract and he effectively agreed to the risks when he did so. He took a risk. He lost. Move on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 Stortini was also waived. The Isles need him too. Only if Ken Holland makes a public statement on his intention to select him. If they don't claim him, then I would say its pretty obvious that Snow was being a ****** with Nabokov and the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 Well this might just end this topic, its been fun, but, I think Nabokov is officially done in the NHL. There are still 30 games left in the season. I he just want to try holding out a little bit longer. With 10 games left he might report. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 If you're Nabokov you gotta be thinking... What should I do? Should I admit the KHL was a mistake? Should I not listen to my family? They're my family. Should I have said the Islanders are a first class organization? What should I do? What should I do? Maybe I should just retire. Should I have told the Islanders to suck my wang? Should I just say, "I am not a role model."? Should I score another power play goal? Should I go back to being "John"? Should I admit I wasn't prepared for Team Canada? Should I be who you want me to be? What should I do? 8 Original-Six, stevkrause, I Red Wings I and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingzman91 134 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 If you're Nabokov you gotta be thinking... What should I do? Should I admit the KHL was a mistake? Should I not listen to my family? They're my family. Should I have said the Islanders are a first class organization? What should I do? What should I do? Maybe I should just retire. Should I have told the Islanders to suck my wang? Should I just say, "I am not a role model."? Should I score another power play goal? Should I go back to being "John"? Should I admit I wasn't prepared for Team Canada? Should I be who you want me to be? What should I do? LMFAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 He embarrassed himself? Then what did Holland do? Snow is the one who currently has Nabokov under contract for $570k, not Holland. I don't know why you keep defending Snow. He has a contract for a guy that refuses to play for him. It's embarrassing that Nabokov would even refuse to report to the team. He could have avoided that with a simple phone call. The team sucks so badly that the guy is refusing to even put on the uniform and has said so publicly. Kenny signed a guy with the hopes that he would clear waivers and unfortunately he didn't. That happens all the time. In fact it happened to St. Louis twice recently. I am not sure how Kenny embarrassed himself. There was no way that he could have known for certain how it would turn out short of calling all 29 GM's. It was a long shot but no harm, no foul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 The Devils and the Oilers goalie situation was nowhere near as dire as the Islanders was. Everybody continues to forget that the goalie the Islanders were relying on got injured the night before Nabby was placed on waivers. I really don't understand how anybody could NOT see why Snow would grab Nabokov. You have to have some awfully rosy red glasses. He signed with the Wings FULLY AWARE that any team ranked below the Wings could scoop him up off of waivers. He signed that contract and he effectively agreed to the risks when he did so. He took a risk. He lost. Move on. telling me to move on? hahaha..ok then. yea and he doesn't want to play for a s*** team with no chance in hell for years to make it to the playoffs much less a cup. he signed with detroit..he took the chance just like holland took the chance...so no sir...you move on....good day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 If you're Nabokov you gotta be thinking... What should I do? Should I admit the KHL was a mistake? Should I not listen to my family? They're my family. Should I have said the Islanders are a first class organization? What should I do? What should I do? Maybe I should just retire. Should I have told the Islanders to suck my wang? Should I just say, "I am not a role model."? Should I score another power play goal? Should I go back to being "John"? Should I admit I wasn't prepared for Team Canada? Should I be who you want me to be? What should I do? You win the internet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
