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#21 CAredwingsfan91

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 10:08 PM

NEIL -Abdelkader - Helm would make a great grind line, GIT ER DONE KENNY!
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Posted 23 January 2011 - 10:13 PM

I don't see anyone wanting Kovalev or Gonchar. Especially the crap Kovalev said in the media about


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Posted 23 January 2011 - 10:17 PM

salei for carkner

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 10:26 PM

salei for carkner


Keep Salei. Give up Ericsson or Kindl.

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 10:41 PM

NEIL -Abdelkader - Helm would make a great grind line, GIT ER DONE KENNY!


Agreed 100%. That line looks better then Helm Hudler Abdelkader.

Keep Salei. Give up Ericsson or Kindl.

I'm not sure if youre being serious, but in all honesty Kindl would be a pretty good guy we could probably trade to them since theyre rebuilding.

Kindl doesn't look like he'll be much more then a number 4 guy at most and with Smith looking much better he really is expendable.

Carkner and a 4th or 3rd for Kindl would probably help our team by giving us a big, tough, defensive presence and Kindl can be a second PP guy after Karlsson for the Sens in the future.

Not to mention Carks is one of the top 5 tough guys in the game right now. Do it Kenny

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:01 PM

Get Chris Neil or Carkner. How is it the sens can find 2 good tough guys who can play the game well but Detroit can't find any <_<


While I agree that Neil would be a great addition (roster overcrowding aside) I'd like to point out that the Sens suck and the Wings are fighting for top spot in the West. So, you know... Holland must be doing things better than Murray.

Keep Salei. Give up Ericsson or Kindl.


Huh? Keep the old guy and give up the two BIG, young puck-movers as the post-Lidstrom era approaches. :huh:

Big d-men who can skate well and move the puck are tough to find in this league.
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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:03 PM

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:10 PM

While I agree that Neil would be a great addition (roster overcrowding aside) I'd like to point out that the Sens suck and the Wings are fighting for top spot in the West. So, you know... Holland must be doing things better than Murray.

He obviously is but I just find it odd that Holland is always saying he is looking to add a gritty guy but cant seem to find the right guy. I think Carkner would be perfect to trade for and lock into Salies spot for years to come as our 6th dman who is defensive minded and has some edge (a hell of a lot of edge in this case) since Salei should be gone after this season. He can play the game just as good as Salei, while being one of the toughest guys going and comes at a cheap salary

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:22 PM

He obviously is but I just find it odd that Holland is always saying he is looking to add a gritty guy but cant seem to find the right guy. I think Carkner would be perfect to trade for and lock into Salies spot for years to come as our 6th dman who is defensive minded and has some edge (a hell of a lot of edge in this case) since Salei should be gone after this season. He can play the game just as good as Salei, while being one of the toughest guys going and comes at a cheap salary

Well i think a lot of that is not wanting to pay a guy like Neil 2mil a season. That is just a terrible contract. Carkie, I can see why Holland never signed him. He's 30 years old and didn't play in his first full NHL season until last season.
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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:32 PM

I don't see anyone wanting Kovalev or Gonchar. Especially the crap Kovalev said in the media about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwX9UU0ntHo

3:20


Here's a guy who essentially re-ruined a franchise by trading for Yashin and DiPietro. Two guys with less than spotless attitudes...

I imagine die hard Islander fan's (all 14 of them) ears burn when he speaks. Us Detroiters should call him Matt Milbury.

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:36 PM

Chris Neil is signed for $2m. There is no way that contract fits the wings structure. Carkner pretty much is a pylon.

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:37 PM

I wouldn't mind Neil or Ruutu, but as mentioned, there is really no room up front. Also, Neil's contract is ridiculous for a 4th liner. I'd like to see Carkner in a Wings sweater, maybe we can somehow get him here. Wouldn't be surprised to see Chris Phillips, Mike Fisher, Nick Foligno, and Chris Campoli moved either. I doubt anyone will go after Gonchar's contract.
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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:37 PM

Sorry I dont have the boner for Filppula a lot of people here do


You also obviously don't have a boner for having a good team, if you're willing to trade Filppula AND A PICK for Fisher. It's not even worth discussing.

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 12:04 AM

Fisher also, is 4 years older than Flip, never won a Cup or married anyone with talent.
4 out of 10 years he managed to play atleast 70 games. This year he hasn't missed any, so far.
Call me a homer, but, Fisher has been all the way to the finals, and didn't make it happen then.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 01:07 AM

Fisher also, is 4 years older than Flip, never won a Cup or married anyone with talent.
4 out of 10 years he managed to play atleast 70 games. This year he hasn't missed any, so far.
Call me a homer, but, Fisher has been all the way to the finals, and didn't make it happen then.
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Some decent points. Plus, they've played the same amount of post-season games and Filppula blows him out of the water in playoff production.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 01:13 AM

Chris Neil is signed for $2m. There is no way that contract fits the wings structure. Carkner pretty much is a pylon.

You must not watch him play, typical LGW post. This guy get in fight, he suck at hockey for sure.

He is used as a PKer, plays over 15 minutes a game and is probably a top 3 tough guy in the league. What does Salei provide as a 6th defenseman that Carkner does not. They really are similar players except Carkner is tougher (Oh I just answered my own question, hes tough, thats a lgw no no)

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 01:38 AM

I don't see anyone wanting Kovalev or Gonchar. Especially the crap Kovalev said in the media about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwX9UU0ntHo

3:20


I can't believe I'm saying this (and he is still an idiot), but I actually agree with Milbury. Kovalev has been a lazy floater and a waste of talent for the majority of his career.

Funny he could never recognize that trait in his years as a GM. :rolleyes:

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 01:47 AM

You must not watch him play, typical LGW post. This guy get in fight, he suck at hockey for sure.

He is used as a PKer, plays over 15 minutes a game and is probably a top 3 tough guy in the league. What does Salei provide as a 6th defenseman that Carkner does not. They really are similar players except Carkner is tougher (Oh I just answered my own question, hes tough, thats a lgw no no)

He's also a relative of ex-Red Wing Terry Carkner :thumbup:

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 09:09 AM

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 09:41 AM

He obviously is but I just find it odd that Holland is always saying he is looking to add a gritty guy but cant seem to find the right guy. I think Carkner would be perfect to trade for and lock into Salies spot for years to come as our 6th dman who is defensive minded and has some edge (a hell of a lot of edge in this case) since Salei should be gone after this season. He can play the game just as good as Salei, while being one of the toughest guys going and comes at a cheap salary


I'd be happy to see Carkner take Salei's spot. He's definitely an ideal 6th defenseman and Salei is at the end of his career anyway.
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