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#41 newfy

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 09:55 AM

I'd be happy to see Carkner take Salei's spot. He's definitely an ideal 6th defenseman and Salei is at the end of his career anyway.

They are even defensively I would say, Carkner just provides what Salei would have if he would've came here 6 or 7 years ago. Pair Carkner with Ericcson and I wonder how much more edge Ericcson would play with as well

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 11:31 AM

They are even defensively I would say, Carkner just provides what Salei would have if he would've came here 6 or 7 years ago. Pair Carkner with Ericcson and I wonder how much more edge Ericcson would play with as well

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 12:30 PM

Just because you wrap a tissue in barbed wire, it still won't make it any tougher ;)

Haha this is true, but I really just feel like if E had a big badass playing with him and backing him up, he would play with more edge. He realy has a lot of potential on that side of his game, he could be an OK heavyweight fighter actually with some experience

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 07:42 PM

ive always loved Chris Phillips for some reason...I know hes having a terrible year (0G 3A -22), but he has had some pretty good seasons in the past (8G 18A +36 in '07)

I know he is expensive as well at $3.5 but just always thought for some reason he would fit in well with the Wings and would certainly play better on this team.

Not saying we should go ahead and do it but just always liked him and may be able to help out if we see more defensive injuries.

And if not this season he may be worth looking at in the offseason for the right price.

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 08:43 PM

I'd be totally cool with tossing them Salei + a pick for Carkner. Maybe even another, young guy... but he'd essentially be taking Salei's spot.

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 09:45 PM

As a 2nd team Sens fan, I do hope they blow it up (and maybe Pierre will the man to do it :wink: )

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 11:48 PM

I'd be totally cool with tossing them Salei + a pick for Carkner. Maybe even another, young guy... but he'd essentially be taking Salei's spot.

Carkner would be a perfect guy to take Salei's spot. Good shot blocking, hard hitting defenseman that is able to effectively kill penalties. This could be Ruslan's last season in the NHL.
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 03:52 AM

Fisher also, is 4 years older than Flip, never won a Cup or married anyone with talent.


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Posted 25 January 2011 - 06:16 AM

Keep Salei. Give up Ericsson or Kindl.




Uhhh... huh? Terrible, terrible idea. You think big, mobile, puck moving defensemen grow on trees?


Besides... we already had Carkner in the mid 90's and he was average at best. :ph34r:

Edited by Broken 16, 25 January 2011 - 06:22 AM.


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Posted 25 January 2011 - 06:30 AM

Uhhh... huh? Terrible, terrible idea. You think big, mobile, puck moving defensemen grow on trees?


Besides... we already had Carkner in the mid 90's and he was average at best. :ph34r:


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Posted 25 January 2011 - 06:39 AM

Aaron Ward? Lol




No... Terry... :)


Scotty got rid of him before the Cup runs. If I remember correctly, Yzerman wasn't too happy at the time. He was quoted as saying something to the effect of: "All he did was play great defense for us." Of course, this was before the team bought 100% into Scotty's defensive scheme and two-way play... so... plus Yzerman was a little disgusted at the time. He was fresh off the trading block himself. He almost went to Ottawa for Alexi Yashin. Lmao. Thank God someone (JimmyD, Ilitch?) pulled the plug on the trade.

Anyway, Carkner was a solid stay-at-home defensemen. I liked him. Great shot blocker IIRC.

Edited by Broken 16, 25 January 2011 - 07:07 AM.


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Posted 25 January 2011 - 06:59 AM

Yea, I'm only 24. Was just told I was in fourth grade when we won our first Cup. The first season I watched was 95, so as much as I hate to say it, I'm a little lost as to who your referencing.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 08:14 AM

No... Terry... :)


Scotty got rid of him before the Cup runs. If I remember correctly, Yzerman wasn't too happy at the time. He was quoted as saying something to the effect of: "All he did was play great defense for us." Of course, this was before the team bought 100% into Scotty's defensive scheme and two-way play... so... plus Yzerman was a little disgusted at the time. He was fresh off the trading block himself. He almost went to Ottawa for Alexi Yashin. Lmao. Thank God someone (JimmyD, Ilitch?) pulled the plug on the trade.

Anyway, Carkner was a solid stay-at-home defensemen. I liked him. Great shot blocker IIRC.

Yup - a respectable #5/#6 stay at home Dman with the ability to drop the gloves on a regular basis...I liked him too, and was disappointed in seeing him go on to the Panthers.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 10:35 PM

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I wouldn't mind having Ruutu or Neil...

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 10:36 PM

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 10:40 PM

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 10:55 PM

Get Chris Neil or Carkner. How is it the sens can find 2 good tough guys who can play the game well but Detroit can't find any <_<

carkner has a few fights and some blocked shots, otherwise he DEFINITELY cannot play the game at a level that the wings do, too many undisciplined penalties, too many trims tripping over his own ass

Edited by jollymania, 25 January 2011 - 10:56 PM.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 11:00 PM

Filppula has almost 50% more points than Fischer and makes 1.2 million less than him. AND you want to give away a pick/prospect with Filppula? Does your obsessive fascination with men touching each other blind any logic or reason from your mind completely, or is it only 90%?

Its scary but I totally agree with you, if the Wings trade him they have to get someone who is a BETTER second line center OFFENSIVELY not worse with some fighting ability, Fisher IS a third line center. Newfy, this isn't NHL 2011 you can't just look at stats, some fighting videos and think hes going to plug in well. Filppula is a pretty good puck moving center and if he is to be traded with some picks/prospects the wings need to bring back someone who will provide more offensive upside than anyone like Fisher.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 11:19 PM

You must not watch him play, typical LGW post. This guy get in fight, he suck at hockey for sure.

He is used as a PKer, plays over 15 minutes a game and is probably a top 3 tough guy in the league. What does Salei provide as a 6th defenseman that Carkner does not. They really are similar players except Carkner is tougher (Oh I just answered my own question, hes tough, thats a lgw no no)


never said Salei is a better option as the 6th dman than Carkner, but Carkner has glaring deficiencies that have to be taken into consideration. its not a slam dunk improvement if we get Carkner for Salei like you make it out to be

Its scary but I totally agree with you, if the Wings trade him they have to get someone who is a BETTER second line center OFFENSIVELY not worse with some fighting ability, Fisher IS a third line center. Newfy, this isn't NHL 2011 you can't just look at stats, some fighting videos and think hes going to plug in well. Filppula is a pretty good puck moving center and if he is to be traded with some picks/prospects the wings need to bring back someone who will provide more offensive upside than anyone like Fisher.


bingo. Fisher does not fit our style or system. Fisher is a north-south dump and chase guy. he'll be useful maybe on our 3rd or 4th lines, but no thanks at that cap hit.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 02:04 AM

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