softshoes 83 Report post Posted February 21, 2011 The world needs more Bill Davidsons. Detroit can't or won't do what's needed for the Pistons so he just says "f*** it, I'll build my own arena in Auburn Hills." No taxpayers money, no bonds, just his cash. Opened in 88' and is still a great place to watch an event. 2 Serratoni and Majsheppard reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted February 21, 2011 More blind Bettman hate fuel. Read the article before saying something completely moronic. Staying right on course for this site though. So kudos for continuing the idiocy?? 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted February 21, 2011 Carman, I'm a little confused on "my made up idea"? I'm just stating that Bettman pumps life in these welfare clubs and smacks around the Canadian Clubs as well as the big clubs in the league! Bettman keeps stating how parity in the league has made for great races in the 2 Conferences. It seems his parity is actually taking life away from teams like Edmonton and the Islanders to help pump life into the welfare teams. Sure the Oilers have young talent, but are going to have to release their vets to keep the young talent or let the young talent walk and once again find themselves with lower attendence and crappy "parity" hockey and in a new arena! But hey, we can debate this all day long I suppose. There is plenty to criticize Bettman on. This instance I feel is a major stretch. He's actually trying to help the Oilers, he's saying the same things he's said about the Islanders situation, he's not being any "harder" on Canadian teams, and to think that as a conspiracy is just, I don't know, not right? His job is to represent the owners, so of course he's going to battle for the "poor", if he wasn't good at his job he wouldn't be in his position for almost 20 years. 1 commadore183 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted February 21, 2011 The "Bettman hate" bong. Don't get me wrong, though, I think Bettman is a complete ass. He's snide and condescending when he speaks to the media. On top of it all he's dismissive of the fans' concerns. A guy like Bettman should stay behind the scenes dealing with the owners and with coporate interests. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donaldjr2448 43 Report post Posted February 21, 2011 There is plenty to criticize Bettman on. This instance I feel is a major stretch. He's actually trying to help the Oilers, he's saying the same things he's said about the Islanders situation, he's not being any "harder" on Canadian teams, and to think that as a conspiracy is just, I don't know, not right? His job is to represent the owners, so of course he's going to battle for the "poor", if he wasn't good at his job he wouldn't be in his position for almost 20 years. Yeah, I can see your point on this! 20 years is an accomplishment,and I can also see where your coming from on Bettman helping the Oilers as well, as a "Hey you got the leagues support on this" and I am certain there are things he cannot comment on as well. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted February 21, 2011 I don't like Bettman, one bit, but I didn't see a threat anywhere in there. Not like this post insinuated. Is it even possible to be threatened by a midget? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted February 21, 2011 Bettman gets a lot more blame for things than he really deserves, but in reality the dude is still a total ass. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted February 21, 2011 Don't get me wrong, though, I think Bettman is a complete ass. He's snide and condescending when he speaks to the media. On top of it all he's dismissive of the fans' concerns. A guy like Bettman should stay behind the scenes dealing with the owners and with coporate interests. I agree. I was thinking today, how often do us Baseball fans hear from Bud Selig? Maybe a couple times a year. Bettman seems to be in the media all the time, which makes us non Bettman supports despise him even more! We hockey fans know the issues and have ideas to make the game better and even more profitable. However, Bettman continues to show his face, lie to the media, and try's to make the fans sound like they are complete morons! I was thinking today too, it's to bad that jobs like a Commissioner doesn't have the same rules as President of the USA, after 8 years you're out the door. It's time for new blood with some fresh ideas in the commissioner's office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shady Ultima 40 Report post Posted February 22, 2011 Speaking of which...why do Oilers fans get to make fun of the Coyotes? Seems to me like a pretty darn similar situation; except for the potentially illegal conduct involved with Moyes' bankruptcy during the Phoenix saga. The reason Oilers fans can make fun of the Coyotes is simple Eva. There ARE Oilers fans. 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted February 22, 2011 The reason Oilers fans can make fun of the Coyotes is simple Eva. There ARE Oilers fans. There are Coyote fans too. The past couple of seasons have been the worst in their history, attendance-wise, and this is due to the whole Balsillie mess. In 1996-97, 1997-98, 2003-04, and 2006-07 Phoenix outdrew Boston. Are there hockey fans in Boston? In their first three seasons, Phoenix averaged about 540 fewer fans in attendance than league powerhouse and Cup contender Colorado. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted February 22, 2011 Fans of the Oilers live in Edmonton; fans of the Coyotes don't live in Phoenix / Glendale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) I don't like Bettman, one bit, but I didn't see a threat anywhere in there. Not like this post insinuated. Is it even possible to be threatened by a midget? That is funny. The way I read it, he says it is just a fact that they can't play in that building anymore. (I don't get that because we have played in our building even longer...) Edmonton shouldn't think that the team will just continue to play in this city without a new building. I find that to be a threat, build us an arena or the team will move. Let's be fair here, if he made that statement against Detroit, you all would be upset. I think I understand why no one thinks this is a threat... I saw the speech by Bettman on TSN.CA and couldn't get a link... This article doesn't have the whole bit... Let me look for a link. "not a threat by any means..." Usually means a threat to me. Edited February 22, 2011 by Majsheppard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted April 6, 2011 TSN. Edmonton Journal . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted April 6, 2011 Edmonton Journal . Wouldn't it be embarrassing if this project were to fail because myopic citizens or unimaginative city politicians pigeonholed it simplistically merely as an expensive new arena for a billionaire they didn't like? Embarrassing, yes. But not totally surprising if it does happen, since Albertans hate paying for things. 1 Majsheppard reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted April 6, 2011 I think Bettman just likes hearing his name next to terms like "strong arm." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WizardOfOz30 1,886 Report post Posted April 6, 2011 I do agree however that taxpayer $$$ shouldn't be used if the owner (Katz) has the funds to build it himself...Same goes for Ilitch. Regardless of whether or not the owner has the fund to finance a new building, it should not be the taxpayer's responsibility to pay a dime for it. With the amount of cities having to make cuts to important services (I do not know the state of Edmonton's finances) they should not even consider becoming banks for the NHL. 3 Nev, sleepwalker and Majsheppard reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Scrosby87 Report post Posted April 6, 2011 It's embarrassing reading your ignorant responses. Clearly none of you are business majors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted April 6, 2011 It's embarrassing reading your ignorant responses. Clearly none of you are business majors. And look at this English major's wet dream. Ignorance must also be bliss here. 3 Ally, Majsheppard and evilmrt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 And look at this English major's wet dream. Ignorance must also be bliss here. Are you saying that because it should have been: It's embarrassing reading your ignorant responses; clearly none of you major in business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 7, 2011 It's embarrassing reading your ignorant responses. Clearly none of you are business majors. Clearly you need to go back and finish your MTS (Master of Trolling Sciences), as you bring shame to your fellow troll major brethren. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 It's embarrassing reading your ignorant responses. Clearly none of you are business majors. To be fair, you are right, I did Chemistry. 1 esteef reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 Should this not be something the city of Edmonton and the team work out themselves, without Buttman sticking his nose in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted May 19, 2011 Edmonton Journal . Gary Bettman: motivational genius. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ami 273 Report post Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) <...>It makes me mad that he has to say something like this. Don't get me wrong, if they want a new arena they should get one. However why does the NHL think it has the right to demand local governments to pay for their new toys??? <...> He's a lawyer. That means chances he is a liberal are very high. Then, if he's a liberal, then it is in his blood, government must help him, otherwise <...insert any threatening...> get rid of this *******, the sooner, the better. There is plenty to criticize Bettman on. This instance I feel is a major stretch. He's actually trying to help the Oilers, he's saying the same things he's said about the Islanders situation, he's not being any "harder" on Canadian teams, and to think that as a conspiracy is just, I don't know, not right? His job is to represent the owners, so of course he's going to battle for the "poor", if he wasn't good at his job he wouldn't be in his position for almost 20 years. One word. Capitalism. Many seem to forget this simple word. Edited May 19, 2011 by ami 2 Hockeymom1960 and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted July 14, 2011 TSN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites