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#1 HankthaTank

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:24 PM

Osgood underwent surgery for a sports hernia Jan. 11. He started doing light drills a week ago and Friday faced shots for the first time. He plans to try practicing either Tuesday or Wednesday. The Wings need to know by the end of this week whether Osgood thinks he can return, because if that's in doubt, they'll need to see if they can find a replacement before the Feb. 28 deadline.

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Word is he isn't really getting much better. And as we heard on the FSN broadcast it was a pretty nasty injury with cartilage being off the bone no less. Not sure who we get but looks like we do add someone in a week's time if the Ozzie status doesn't change. Thoughts?
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:39 PM

"At this time of year, everyone is looking for veteran defensemen," Holland said. "I'm still going to explore. I've talked to a few managers in the last couple of days. But we're dollar in, dollar out. I don't see us getting a rental, because we can't add. The only thing we're going to do is if there's a hockey deal out there. But we got Brad Stuart back. We're getting Mike Modano back in a week. We're getting Valtteri Filppula back in the next week."

Not much to this but you never know. Probably just the usual talk around this time of year and we will have most of our players back by the Feb. 28th deadline. Still could be interesting to see what, if any, move we make.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:40 PM

I saw him interviewed by Mick and Ken during either Thurs or Fridays game. Although he may not want to show his hand on the injury publicy, he sounded pretty positive on injury healing well and him coming back to play this season. I wonder if Ozzy may force Kenny to make any decision on bringing in another goaler. I can understand that Ozzy feels he can still be a top goaler when healthy and thinking that there is enough time between now and "when it counts/playoff's" that he should be ready to go. But if I'm Kenny, I'm taking Ozzy's opinion of his health and status out of the equation and deferring to the doctors. Ozzy will always lean on the side of being ready to go...the doctors will give the unbias facts of how the injury is healing and chances of reaggrivation. I'm a bit concerned that if Kenny makes a move for a goaler, it will be without Ozzy's buy-in, and has the potential to end ugly. Ozzy is a complete professional and has always handled himself with class and understanding of the NHL as a business without being selfish, but this may cross the line. This could mean the end of Ozzy's playing days and I think this could be a very hard pill for him to swallow...especially if he thinks he's going to be healthy and ready.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:48 PM

[url="http://www.freep.com...line"]Thoughts?


Sure, more than happy to share them.

Who didn't see this coming? Holland tried for Nabby for a reason. Not only has Osgood been less than stellar for some time now, he's also got an injury that sounded (from when we first heard about it) like it may last longer than expected. Holland, all his Osgood man-love aside, isn't the type to go into the playoffs with a shaky sophomore and a career 3rd stringer as his goalies.

I have said, ever since Osgood went down, that if we get anything in a trade this year it will probably be a goaltender. Osgood may be done with his career. (and if he is, that little video montage during the Bruins game will have served as a nice sendoff) That leaves us, at least, looking for a veteran backup. If Joey beats that guy out for the backup spot, so be it. But I don't see Kenny standing pat without creating some competition to raise the play of whatever goaltender we'll start in the playoffs.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:48 PM

If I recall correctly, Ozzie said his career is going to end in Detroit. So if his injury isn't going to heal before the time comes to make a trade, I could see him retiring and becoming a part of the Red Wings organization as a continuing mentor for Howie. Sucks for Ozzie, but he'd have to come to terms that it might be time to hang 'em up.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:00 PM

those damn islanders
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:02 PM

those damn islanders


Yep, could of saved us a thread...

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:07 PM

St. Louis appears to be in a selling mood and Ty Conklin is only a $1.3 million cap hit.

Just saying...

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:14 PM

Oz retires on his own and if he tells Kenny he's ok, Holland makes no move.
I see the standard, "Red Wings aquire Kris Newbury for Chris Minard" or similar AHL move as our only deadline move.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:17 PM

The playoffs this season will be an excellent chance to see whether Howard's really got the chopps to be a playoff goaltender. His struggles last year can be chalked up to rookie jitters (it was clear that he wasn't himself when he did interviews during the playoffs).
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:23 PM

The day I heard about the surgery, I said I thought Osgood's career was over and my opinion hasn't changed - I think this is just another case of the Wings brass being smart and knowing that if they make it obvious they have a need, then they need to overpay... instead, they have Osgood play along and pretend he's coming back, even though they know he's not and he knows he's not and then they can make a quiet, under the radar move that won't cost us a ton and bring in a serviceable back-up, then Osgood announces his retirement in the off-season.

EDIT - plus, if he retires now, we get hit with his caphit and no roster player, whereas if we LTIR him for the season, we get cap relief for him and can exceed the cap by his value, while freeing up the roster spot... seems to me like Osgood is just "taking one for the team" like the great team guy he has been his whole career

Edited by stevkrause, 21 February 2011 - 01:24 PM.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:34 PM

St. Louis appears to be in a selling mood and Ty Conklin is only a $1.3 million cap hit.

Just saying...


There have been rumors about Conks coming back here at the deadline.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:39 PM

The day I heard about the surgery, I said I thought Osgood's career was over and my opinion hasn't changed - I think this is just another case of the Wings brass being smart and knowing that if they make it obvious they have a need, then they need to overpay... instead, they have Osgood play along and pretend he's coming back, even though they know he's not and he knows he's not and then they can make a quiet, under the radar move that won't cost us a ton and bring in a serviceable back-up, then Osgood announces his retirement in the off-season.

EDIT - plus, if he retires now, we get hit with his caphit and no roster player, whereas if we LTIR him for the season, we get cap relief for him and can exceed the cap by his value, while freeing up the roster spot... seems to me like Osgood is just "taking one for the team" like the great team guy he has been his whole career


This is right on the money on all accounts. The injury he sustained was real bad and Holland and Co. are way too savvy to show their cards so directly, but there is a new goalie on the way to Mo Town for sure. Conks would be my first choice, I love that guy.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 02:02 PM

The day I heard about the surgery, I said I thought Osgood's career was over and my opinion hasn't changed - I think this is just another case of the Wings brass being smart and knowing that if they make it obvious they have a need, then they need to overpay... instead, they have Osgood play along and pretend he's coming back, even though they know he's not and he knows he's not and then they can make a quiet, under the radar move that won't cost us a ton and bring in a serviceable back-up, then Osgood announces his retirement in the off-season.

EDIT - plus, if he retires now, we get hit with his caphit and no roster player, whereas if we LTIR him for the season, we get cap relief for him and can exceed the cap by his value, while freeing up the roster spot... seems to me like Osgood is just "taking one for the team" like the great team guy he has been his whole career


You might be onto something...

Explains the Nabby scenario a bit better too.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 02:27 PM

The day I heard about the surgery, I said I thought Osgood's career was over and my opinion hasn't changed - I think this is just another case of the Wings brass being smart and knowing that if they make it obvious they have a need, then they need to overpay... instead, they have Osgood play along and pretend he's coming back, even though they know he's not and he knows he's not and then they can make a quiet, under the radar move that won't cost us a ton and bring in a serviceable back-up, then Osgood announces his retirement in the off-season.

EDIT - plus, if he retires now, we get hit with his caphit and no roster player, whereas if we LTIR him for the season, we get cap relief for him and can exceed the cap by his value, while freeing up the roster spot... seems to me like Osgood is just "taking one for the team" like the great team guy he has been his whole career

A+ sir. This says it all and most likely the case. With not much space it will be interesting to see what this does in fact turn into.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 02:42 PM

There have been rumors about Conks coming back here at the deadline.

Damn I hope so that would be sweet. He really stood on his head when Ozzie wasn't performing that well in 09.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 03:06 PM

Damn I hope so that would be sweet. He really stood on his head when Ozzie wasn't performing that well in 09.

+1 This would be amazing!!! Conks is a perfect fit and I really hope it happens.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 03:13 PM

I'd love to have Conks back. The only problem is that dang curse of his...

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 03:38 PM

Having Conks back would be amaaaaaaaaaaaazing. I was really disappointed when we didn't resign him.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 03:49 PM

Having Conks back would be amaaaaaaaaaaaazing. I was really disappointed when we didn't resign him.

Disappointed, but not unexpected - Howard was out of options and Osgood was still under contract, there was just no room for him then... now, however...

29 is free too, just sayin'

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