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[13dangledangle]

For a while now I have been wondering if Nick does retire this year who gets the C for real? Z has always been the one they have hinted towards, and people across this board often say Z as well. However when it comes down to it, Dats is a better choice in my mind. He is arguably the best player in the game right now, playmaker, dangler, sniper, PK & PP specialist and defends his team mates (I dont want to see him actually drop the gloves again for a while but that was awesome). The thing people have often said is the language barrier, but I think that is really an issue anymore. So I expect to my Datsyuk Jersey I order in the near future to come with a C on it

[Opie]

The one argument I would raise to counter yours would be that when Dats wants someone to help him in an interview/post game presser he leans on Z. Z does a lot more than what we see on the ice.

[CaliWingsNut]

So... the person w/ a username and avatar honoring Datsyuk, thinks he should be the next captain. What a shocker.

Z has been groomed for the role for many years now. Sorry.

We don't even know if Lidstrom is retiring. Way to push the 2011 Norris candidate out the door.

[VM1138]

It'll be Zetterberg, for his "intangibles." Datsyuk has earned the A, but Zetterberg is just one of those guys who does absolutely everything. He leaves it all on the ice (so does Datsyuk) like Yzerman used to, but he has more of the aura of the never-say-die attitude than anyone else on the team.

[esteef]

Z has a hot wife, he gets it.

esteef

[13dangledangle]

So... the person w/ a username and avatar honoring Datsyuk, thinks he should be the next captain. What a shocker.

Z has been groomed for the role for many years now. Sorry.

We don't even know if Lidstrom is retiring. Way to push the 2011 Norris candidate out the door.

Wouldnt attack avatars if I was you...Its a discussion not a Lidstrom bash, that doesnt even make sense.

[Ram]

It's Z. Think about it, his contract, his English is better than Dats, he is just as good. I hate to sound stereotypical, but Z-Pav is almost like Stevie-Fed back in the day, minus the long contract hold out

[55fan]

Z has a hot wife, he gets it.

esteef

Svetlana is very pretty too.

Hank gets it because Pavel has a silly side that he'd have to keep deeply hidden should he become captain. Once Hank gets the C, the comedy will fly. Pavel will be pranking him six ways from Sunday. Hilarity will ensue. You heard it here first, folks. Pavel is just to impish for the C. It would be like giving it to Homer.

[CaliWingsNut]

Wouldnt attack avatars if I was you...Its a discussion not a Lidstrom bash, that doesnt even make sense.

I didn't attack your avatar. But why shouldn't I attack avatars? Do you have L33t shop skills that you'll destroy me through the interwebz with?

As to the "Lidstrom bash" (what is that, a new dance?), this is a discussion that doesn't matter until Lidstrom retires. Therefore, you are assuming he's got one foot out the door. I'm not.

[Learn2LuvIt]

Not a chance. I'm not touching Pavs game.

Let him continue to be the best two way forward in the league and play to another teammates strength's as Captain (like communication in the English language).

[Hatethedrake!]

Yeah Z has the hottest wife so he gets it. Sorry Dats. She's just too damn hot.

[Travis]

Zetterberg definitely gets the 'C' and Kronwall gets his 'A'. That's just the way it's going to be.

[Kira]

As much as I love the idea, I don't think they would give it to him. I think they have it set in concrete for Henrik. But I love the thought.

[13dangledangle]

[quote name='CaliWingsNut' timestamp='1298994709' post='2124159']<br>I didn't attack your avatar. But why shouldn't I attack avatars? Do you have L33t shop skills that you'll destroy me through the interwebz with? <br><br>As to the "Lidstrom bash" (what is that, a new dance?), this is a discussion that doesn't matter until Lidstrom retires. Therefore, you are assuming he's got one foot out the door. I'm not.[quote]

Certainly not assuming hes on his way out. He is on his way out. He himself told us all this, he might (as any sane person would hope) play at least another year. However when that day comes in the not so distant future we will need a new captain. Captaincy of this organization is the honor of honor's, why not talk about who might be the predecessor of the last two, well Legends.

Edited by 13dangledangle, 01 March 2011 - 11:51 AM.

[55fan]

Lids will not be around forever. Yes, it sucks. It sucked with Stevie, but that is how life is.

There is no reason that Pavel does not deserve to be the Captain once Lids retires. There is also no reason that Hank does not deserve it. However, unless we rotate the C, only one gets it.

Bashing people for suggesting Pavel is entirely lame. He would do a great job.

Hank will be the one getting it. He has more of a "captain" persona. It's no slight to Pavel. Coming in second to Hank is no insult.

[13dangledangle]

Lids will not be around forever. Yes, it sucks. It sucked with Stevie, but that is how life is.

There is no reason that Pavel does not deserve to be the Captain once Lids retires. There is also no reason that Hank does not deserve it. However, unless we rotate the C, only one gets it.

Bashing people for suggesting Pavel is entirely lame. He would do a great job.

Hank will be the one getting it. He has more of a "captain" persona. It's no slight to Pavel. Coming in second to Hank is no insult.

That was perfect. I also agree Hank will get it, I guess I was silly to think it was an interesting topic to discuss...

[GoWings1905]

It's not like Hank is some run-of-the-mill forward in his own right. No, he's clearly nowhere near as flashy as Pavel, but Zetterberg is top ten in scoring and I personally believe he doesn't get near enough recognition for the Selke. The best player in the NHL can't escape Henrik's shadow every time they play.

Again, I'm not taking away anything Pavel accomplishes as we are incredibly blessed to have both players. I just don't think it's fair to discount what Hank brings to the team in order to make Pavel's case stronger. I hate to make the comparision, but there's a lot of Stevie Y in Zetterberg.

[Booster313]

I think Pavel would vote for Hank to get it as well... The OP's reasons seem to be based on Datsyuk being the superior player and I don't know that I'd argue depending on the day, but the most talented player on the team isn't necessarily the best captain, this is true of most teams.

[Mabuhay Red Wings]

Z has a hot wife, he gets it.

esteef

So does Pav.

Although us males may not like her as much because there are no naked pictures of her on the internet.

Personally I think Svetlana has a prettier face than Emma.

[cupforwings]

Z will carry the team on his shoulders in a different way then Paval... Z is the next captain.