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#61 GMRwings1983

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 07:26 PM

I wouldn't mind if Pavel gets it.

He's more visible every game than Zetterberg has been. Hasn't taken him long to dominate since coming back from injury either. It's like he never left.

I guess Zetterberg must be doing something in the lockerroom better than Datsyuk is, because he's been all but named as the future captain. I don't think it should be an open and shut case. Maybe they could be co-captains or alternate. I normally don't like that, but in this case it would be fine. They are the Euro twins after all.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 07:32 PM

Zetterberg - C
Datsyuk - A
Stuart - A
Rafalski - A

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 07:54 PM

Z just hasnt been all that great.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 08:05 PM

Who will get an "A" first. Filppula or Franzen? We all know after Lidstrom retires the captaincy will probably look like this:

C/A: Zetterberg
C/A: Datsyuk
A: Rafalski

And my dark horse if the Wings are rotating:
A: Cleary.

According to a statistic I just made up, it's a 75% certainty that Zetterberg will be our next captain.
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 08:06 PM

Z just hasnt been all that great.

Why does the best player have to be captain? Z is having a good year and I think he should be the next captain. Getting the C is about leadership. None of us know who the lockeroom leaders are. Also, the captain has many media responsibilities that Z seems better prepared for than Dats.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 08:09 PM

Who will get an "A" first. Filppula or Franzen? We all know after Lidstrom retires the captaincy will probably look like this:

C/A: Zetterberg
C/A: Datsyuk
A: Rafalski

And my dark horse if the Wings are rotating:
A: Cleary.

According to a statistic I just made up, it's a 75% certainty that Zetterberg will be our next captain.


Honestly, that isn't even a dark horse.... I see Cleary getting the A over Filpula and definitely over Franzen. Franzen is too lazy to be a captain. Lets not forget Helm either.

Probably going to be:

C: Zetterberg
A: Datsyuk
A: Rafalski
A: Kronwall

others:
A: Cleary

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 08:18 PM

I can't believe you have turned this into a competition between these two amazing players. It's like comparing apples and oranges. You need to just appreciate them both for what they have and do, and leave it at that.
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 08:18 PM

Honestly, that isn't even a dark horse.... I see Cleary getting the A over Filpula and definitely over Franzen. Franzen is too lazy to be a captain. Lets not forget Helm either.

Probably going to be:

C: Zetterberg
A: Datsyuk
A: Rafalski
A: Kronwall

others:
A: Cleary


How is it "not even a dark horse"? Most people I've seen have been putting Stuart and Kronwall over Cleary, even yourself put Kronwall over Cleary. That's a dark horse.
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 08:35 PM

All fans should be so lucky to have this kind of problem. My obvious vote is for Zetterberg, but it wouldn't bother me too much if Datsyuk got it. I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but I recall Datsyuk saying that he would like to finish his career in Russia. I don't know if that means after this contract, or if he'd sign on longer. I do know that Zetterberg is going to be here as long as he physically can, and he's a much more "media friendly" player.

I think comparing the skills and stats of both players isn't a true indication of who should be the captain. Each guy is supremely skilled in his own way, and when it comes down to it we're lucky to have both of them.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 08:37 PM

How is it "not even a dark horse"? Most people I've seen have been putting Stuart and Kronwall over Cleary, even yourself put Kronwall over Cleary. That's a dark horse.

i know multiple people who have been around cleary and said he was a prick.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 08:43 PM

i know multiple people who have been around cleary and said he was a prick.

They have been around him eh? Well damn, I don't want him being any type of assistant after this award-winning reporting. Hell, trade him.
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 09:45 PM

If Lilja was still here, this would all be easily resolved, because he looks like Leonidas from the film 300.


C: Lilja
A: Datsyuk
A: Zetterberg
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 10:43 PM

Pavel is just to impish for the C. It would be like giving it to Homer.


Or Draper.

It's not like Hank is some run-of-the-mill forward in his own right. No, he's clearly nowhere near as flashy as Pavel, but Zetterberg is top ten in scoring and I personally believe he doesn't get near enough recognition for the Selke. The best player in the NHL can't escape Henrik's shadow every time they play.


That's because you can never escape your own shadow.

Yes both Hank & Pavs deserve the C. You know how you solve it? Give it to Huds. Happiest...captain...ever... :hehe:


We would see the clucking turn into a secret on-ice language used for play-calling.

When Lidstrom and Draper's time is up I would personally like to see

Zetterberg "C"
Datsyuk "A"
Rafalski "A"
Holmstrom "A"

any complaints?


Rafalski and Holmstrom are both almost certainly retiring after next year. Which means that this is a setup assuming Draper and Lidstrom call it this summer. I personally would go with this:

C: Zetterberg
A: Datsyuk
A: Kronwall
A: Cleary

Filppula and Stuart are other names I have heard mentioned. Filppula is an interesting one; I wonder at his chances of getting a letter simply because he's a forward and Z and Dats already have them. Stuart could be argued to replace Kronwall in my list, but I would rather charge Kronwall with leadership and say "It's your ship on defense, make it work." to Kronwall because I doubt Holland wants to keep Stuart at that price or higher, but most teams pay a premium to pick up a veteran all-around defenseman. Campbell's contract is proof of that.

:stop: zetterberg can't be 'just as good' as datsyuk since datsyuk is the best player in the world. i mean, i love Z but no one can seriously argue he is a better player (or just as good) than pavel.


Datsyuk is great, but Zetterberg is the better player. Dats is flashy and gets more attention from fans and media, but Z is the more versatile player and is capable of filling any role. Z is the one who can completely neutralize any player in the league, including Pavel. Dats is a great player, but he needs to be put in that position of scoring center for his game to thrive while the other team tries to stop him, and he prevents their offensive attempts against his line. Z's play, on the other hand, thrives no matter where you put him. You could tell him to shadow Crosby, and it will turn into Crosby trying to stop Zetterberg.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 11:36 PM

Brett Lebda should be Captain.




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Posted 01 March 2011 - 11:49 PM

Datsyuk seems like the sort of guy that would both appreciate and play better in a supporting leadership role. He leads by example and is quite humble, but he doesn't have that same force of personality that seems present in guys like Lidstrom or Zetterberg. He's the sort of guy you'd want coaching your kids; he's more of an instructor type than a leader type. I'm sure he'd make a fine leader if necessary, but he always seems the sort to defer when there's someone that he regards as more capable around (such as interviews with Z and him).
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 11:55 PM

When it comes to dealing with the media, I feel like Pash enjoys speaking to them a HELL of a lot more than Hank does. I don't know why but I always get the impression that in his head Hank is thinking, "God I hate this. God I hate this sof****** much. I just wanna go home." Not saying I don't like Hank for that. I don't blame him, really.

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 12:07 AM

Love it... People putting all sorta words in my mouth. I'm "bashing the OP", I'm against "the best 2-way forward in the entire world to be the Captain"... HA.

I was simply pointing out that the OP, with a name and avatar based on Datsyuk, came up with the brain straining idea that Datsyuk could be the next captain. < sarcasm> I'm guessing it was a really hard choice on his part. His extremely long opening post with extended explanation of his opinion and how he arrived at it really gave the reader a lot to consider and debate about. < /sarcasm> His responses make it sound like I was crucifying him. He really hasn't done anything for me to truly be annoyed at him. So maybe you all should take things a bit less personally.

As to the subject of the thread... I wouldn't be heartbroken if Dats got the "C". However, short of catastrophic injury, there's no question that Z will be next captain. It's the reason why he has the longest contract in team history, and used to sit next to Yzerman in the locker room.






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Posted 02 March 2011 - 02:31 AM

It will most likely be Hank getting the C but Pavs gets the first A with Kronwall, Cleary, Franzen, or even Helm getting the second A
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 03:45 AM

Z just hasnt been all that great.


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Posted 02 March 2011 - 08:54 AM

stuff


i totally expected to see this:

C: Hudler
A: Zetterberg
A: Datsyuk


Helm is a perennial Selke candidate

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