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[toby91_ca]

Thoughts? I'm thinking he gets at least 10 games, but I'd prefer more. He should have gotten a lot more than 9 the last time.

[HankthaTank]

This probably helps people if they don't know what you are talking about....



I would say 10+ would suffice. 2 time offender with a blatant elbow to the head? Just no place for that garbage.

Retaliation was probably coming though with the boarding by Clusterf*** from earlier but this is out of bounds imo.

[Rivalred]

Shots to the head are not good, at least he was wearing a visor. Hope Cluttterbuck is ok

[haroldsnepsts]

The Clutterbuck hit was bad, but the player turned and it looks like he let up a bit. For as many hits as he throws, Clutterbuck is a pretty clean hitter.

But it looks like Gillies threw another elbow to the jaw. I didn't even realize he was back from the first suspension.

The guy's not even a hockey player, so I don't care how high the suspension goes, but I'd say start with 10 games. Of course, 20 would be great too.

Edited by haroldsnepsts, 03 March 2011 - 09:51 AM.

[edicius]

But it looks like Gillies threw another elbow to the jaw. I didn't even realize he was back from the first suspension.

This was actually his first game back from the 9-gamer.

[WorkingOvertime]

Personally, I don't think there should be a big suspension here. Cooke is a repeat offender and his last suspended hit was much worse IMO and I believe he only got four games. I don't like seeing suspensions levied on players because of their skill level. Plenty of people on here complain when skill players aren't given as big of suspensions, but giving bad players longer suspensions only perpetuates the cycle. Anything more than four games is too much and less is better. It was a dirty hit, but he has already sat out a game and worse hits have gone unpunished.

[e_prime]

Retaliation was probably coming though with the boarding by Clusterf*** from earlier but this is out of bounds imo.

Funny how that Minny video fails to show Clutterbuck's hit from seconds before...




As a marginal "player", Gilles needs to learn to keep his mitts and arms down.

He'll get 4 games.

Edited by e_prime, 03 March 2011 - 10:11 AM.

[HankthaTank]

As a marginal "player", Gilles needs to learn to keep his mitts and arms down.

Yeah, Gillies is s***. There are ways of doing it. I mean any swinging **** on the effing ice can toss an elbow at a guy's face. This was chicken s***.

Edited by HankthaTank, 03 March 2011 - 10:14 AM.

[RusDRW]

I don't feel for players like Clutteruck. Looks like they think they are allowed to do everything they want earning their ice time with questionable hits to star players. Each time he is on the ice against us I can only hope either Datsyk or Zetterberg will not be injured. He got what he was asking for. Hopefully, that would be enough for his fearless spirit...

How much should Gillies get? Two games. This is what Cooke always gets. So why should we treat this differently?

[haroldsnepsts]

Personally, I don't think there should be a big suspension here. Cooke is a repeat offender and his last suspended hit was much worse IMO and I believe he only got four games. I don't like seeing suspensions levied on players because of their skill level. Plenty of people on here complain when skill players aren't given as big of suspensions, but giving bad players longer suspensions only perpetuates the cycle. Anything more than four games is too much and less is better. It was a dirty hit, but he has already sat out a game and worse hits have gone unpunished.

Point taken. But when it's your first game back for concussing a guy by throwing a dirty elbow to the head (then yapping at him as he's down on the ice) and you do the same thing in your first game back, it sends a pretty clear signal you've not learned anything from your suspension.

[HankthaTank]

Just for a reference point

@TSNBobMcKenzie

But since it was Gillies and was minutes off returning from 9-game susp, he's going to get more than what any other generic NHLer would get

@TSNBobMcKenzie

Just a guess: 4 or 5 games and, yes, I know many will call for double digits or life. Clutterbuck's health will be the x factor too.

[e_prime]

Point taken. But when it's your first game back for concussing a guy by throwing a dirty elbow to the head (then yapping at him as he's down on the ice) and you do the same thing in your first game back, it sends a pretty clear signal you've not learned anything from your suspension.

Don't think Gilles is much of a "learner."

@KatieStrangNYI
According to source, there will be no verdict today on Trevor Gillies hit on Cal Cluttrebuck last night. #Isles next game Saturday vs. Blues

Edited by e_prime, 03 March 2011 - 10:31 AM.

[wingslogo19]

I don't feel for players like Clutteruck. Looks like they think they are allowed to do everything they want earning their ice time with questionable hits to star players. Each time he is on the ice against us I can only hope either Datsyk or Zetterberg will not be injured. He got what he was asking for. Hopefully, that would be enough for his fearless spirit...

How much should Gillies get? Two games. This is what Cooke always gets. So why should we treat this differently?

Clutterbuck hits clean, so I'm not sure were your going with this.

Gillies is an idiot plan and simple...

[stevkrause]

People like him do not belong in the game.

10 games.

[HankthaTank]

DarrenDreger Trevor Gillies is scheduled for an in-person hearing on Friday. 5+ games is a safe guess, but not a guarantee.

Just keeping you all updated

Twitter is lovely.

[e_prime]

Clutterbuck hits clean, so I'm not sure were your going with this.

Gillies is an idiot plan and simple...

Nevermind. Comprehension of dirty vs. legal.

Edited by e_prime, 03 March 2011 - 10:42 AM.

[toby91_ca]

Point taken. But when it's your first game back for concussing a guy by throwing a dirty elbow to the head (then yapping at him as he's down on the ice) and you do the same thing in your first game back, it sends a pretty clear signal you've not learned anything from your suspension.

That was my thinking. Not only was it his first game back, it was his second shift I think. I didn't think to much about it, but if Clutterbuck is not hurt, then the suspension would likely be minimized, which would be wrong in this case if you ask me.

There are several other dirty players that have gotten suspended for less games, but I disagree in that several others were worse hits. The NHL has to start taking head shots way more seriously and with the high profile this issue has become, I have to believe he'll get something substantial.

To me, going back to his 9 game suspension, he threw and incredibly dirty elbow, concussed the player, who was essentailly knocked out and he then proceeds to pummel him with punches, followed up by him standing at the door taunting him as he lays on the ice. What the hell is that?

This is a guy who is 32 years old and has 2 "career" points in the NHL. What is the point of having this guy in the league. You can compare him to Cooke as well, who is just as much of a piece of crap, but at least Cooke can play a little bit. WARNING....I'm not making that comment suggesting Gillies should get more games than a guy like Cooke simply because Cooke is a better player, I'm simply wondering why Gillies is in the game to begin with.

[wingslogo19]

Nevermind. Comprehension of dirty vs. legal.

I meant in general, meaning that he's not a dirty player, his hit is a penalty no doubt about it

That was my thinking. Not only was it his first game back, it was his second shift I think. I didn't think to much about it, but if Clutterbuck is not hurt, then the suspension would likely be minimized, which would be wrong in this case if you ask me.

There are several other dirty players that have gotten suspended for less games, but I disagree in that several others were worse hits. The NHL has to start taking head shots way more seriously and with the high profile this issue has become, I have to believe he'll get something substantial.

To me, going back to his 9 game suspension, he threw and incredibly dirty elbow, concussed the player, who was essentailly knocked out and he then proceeds to pummel him with punches, followed up by him standing at the door taunting him as he lays on the ice. What the hell is that?

This is a guy who is 32 years old and has 2 "career" points in the NHL. What is the point of having this guy in the league. You can compare him to Cooke as well, who is just as much of a piece of crap, but at least Cooke can play a little bit. WARNING....I'm not making that comment suggesting Gillies should get more games than a guy like Cooke simply because Cooke is a better player, I'm simply wondering why Gillies is in the game to begin with.

It's classless is what that was. You don't do that type of stuff, the NHL doesn't need that

[toby91_ca]

I don't feel for players like Clutteruck. Looks like they think they are allowed to do everything they want earning their ice time with questionable hits to star players. Each time he is on the ice against us I can only hope either Datsyk or Zetterberg will not be injured. He got what he was asking for. Hopefully, that would be enough for his fearless spirit...

How much should Gillies get? Two games. This is what Cooke always gets. So why should we treat this differently?

Cooke always gets 2 games for what? Since his hit on Savard, which was clean at the time, but ended up causing a new rule to be created, he hasn't delievered any head shots, so there is really nothing to compare.

Gillies hits were against the rules even before the new rule, since they were both elbows to the head.

If the NHL truly wants to take head shots out of the game and show they mean business, there will be a serious suspension, but I worry there won't be.

Oh, on whether the Clutterbuck hit was clean or not....who cares? That's a separate incicident, which should be treated separately.

[Gizmo]

I think Keith Jones on Versus called it right... Gilles is a real "meathead" who just doesn't "get it".