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#21 cjm502

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 10:54 PM

"Oh no, boys, put those away. Pucks won't be necessary for this practice."

Worked like a charm for my old team. <_<

Worked for a few games after the Wings slumped last time too. Keep it coming Babs.
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 11:03 PM

Agreed.

To many of us it appears that the puck possession style of play is much more challenging to execute once the playoffs begin...Opponents aren't gonna give the Red Wings the time, and space for their style of game...If we think we're playing piss poor now (especially in our own end) just wait until mid April; hopefully by then the persistant issues have been taken care of, and our D is capable of getting the puck outta our own end in a more efficient manner.

The puck possession requires skill, which our players have, but also to be consistent with their efforts and have good hockey sense. Something which our players our lacking, IMO, compared to the mid 90s teams to the early 00s teams.

I think everyone has noticed this season our passing has not been sharp as it usually is from the top players down. There are times I seen passes even on the break out that are in skates, behind or in front of players and that is a key part to the puck possession style. If passing is decent the puck possession style can work sometimes but not all the time.

I guess that's just something we have to get use to in this cap era.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 11:11 PM

It seems to me this year, Babs says what the players need to do in order to be successful but they do the opposite. I read the comments Babs makes and he is bang on. But the players do not execute it. I can handle the Wings losing. The early 80s I was quite used to it. But making mediocre teams look like the 77 Habs makes me want to vomit. If they do their best and try their best and still lose to the better team than so be it. I can even handle luck beating us because sometimes you don't get the breaks. That's hockey. But the half assing is embarrassing. What point is there to having this much talent if they don't use it? Going into this season I was excited. We added depth, we were more rested. We were to be more energized and hungrier. It started out great but somewhere around the time Modano went down it was like the team hit the complacent button and now it's stuck. I am not sure it's that easy to flick on a switch in the playoffs and all of a sudden our A game returns.Talent wise we know what this team can do. But is the hunger, drive and determination there? Are they really willing to pay a price to go through 4 rounds of playoffs and put their bodies through hell? Right now I am not seeing it. How does team give up so many goals all the time? Why all the giveaways? What is with all the breakaways against this season? Alot of people get on Howard and he has let in some soft goals. But has anyone noticed how many breakaways the guy has stopped? How many saves he has made to keep us in games when we suck (like every 1st period it seems). I have alot more questions than answers that's for sure. Maybe it's so frustrating because we know how good of a team we are when we play to our full potential. We have not seen it all season. Will we see it? I am tired of hearing all the right things...we need to do this...we need to do that...well then f'in do it! Don't say it! Just do it! Rant over...
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 11:27 PM

The puck possession requires skill, which our players have, but also to be consistent with their efforts and have good hockey sense. Something which our players our lacking, IMO, compared to the mid 90s teams to the early 00s teams.

I think everyone has noticed this season our passing has not been sharp as it usually is from the top players down. There are times I seen passes even on the break out that are in skates, behind or in front of players and that is a key part to the puck possession style. If passing is decent the puck possession style can work sometimes but not all the time.

I guess that's just something we have to get use to in this cap era.

In response to the paragraph in bold; I honestly believe our teams in that era were consistently better partially due to the better overall skill of the team, but also from the coaching of Scotty Bowman.

Under Bowman - many players were dressed for the game, but sat for long periods of time due to their screw-ups...I don't get the impression Babcock has the same philosophy; we see the same players making the same mistakes over, and over <_<

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 11:55 PM

In response to the paragraph in bold; I honestly believe our teams in that era were consistently better partially due to the better overall skill of the team, but also from the coaching of Scotty Bowman.

Under Bowman - many players were dressed for the game, but sat for long periods of time due to their screw-ups...I don't get the impression Babcock has the same philosophy; we see the same players making the same mistakes over, and over <_<

I also get that impression as well but I think the cap also comes into play with having the luxury to allow other players a chance to play when others are struggling. Maybe it's just wishful thinking that Babs would sit players if not for the cap.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 12:23 AM

Didn't we hear this speech last month as well from the players and coaching staff? They can turn it around for a game or two but after that bad habits come creeping in again and they are back to square one.


It's at the point where we need to start seeing results on the ice. Other than Babcock, it seems like the team is just a tad complacent. Apparently even they don't know how to fix it.

We just have to hope that they have the "On" switch they've had in the past.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 12:25 AM

We got 60% of the points on the recent trip, equating that over a full season comes out to 98 points. Not bad, it's a 5th seed in the West. Obviously we need to play better than a 5th seed, but all things considered, picking up 60% of points on a road trip is quite good.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 12:41 AM

We got 60% of the points on the recent trip, equating that over a full season comes out to 98 points. Not bad, it's a 5th seed in the West. Obviously we need to play better than a 5th seed, but all things considered, picking up 60% of points on a road trip is quite good.

Yeah coulda had more points too if they didnt blow a 3 goal lead in the third period.

Having a 3 goal lead like that and blowing it shows this teams character a lot more in my eyes then getting 60% of the points on a roady

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 05:35 AM

Johan Franzen didn't have any issues with how his team played the first two periods.

"I think we mostly played hard, played well,'' Franzen said.


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Posted 07 March 2011 - 05:45 AM

The problem is the other teams have "their number" now and know how to play them. Come on Wings, time to change things up. Haven't you figured that out yet????? :blink:

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 07:17 AM

I don't know what to say anymore! The team isn't getting better like they did last year when we got healthy. The Hawks are now on our heals for the division, and I personally think Chicago will pass us now. I have no faith in this team now and it looks like it will be a very short pre-season this year. :ranting:

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:06 AM

But but but, I thought everything was okay after the Los Angeles game! :rolleyes:

I knew the games immediately following that one would be letdowns, especially considering the goals given up at the end of that one. That's why I couldn't truly enjoy that win, because I knew that more garbage would be coming right up. This team's getting way too predictable, sadly.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:23 AM

Seeing how this team responds in the next LA game will tell us alot of what this team is really made of. The problem is that when they show signs of being that very good hardworking dominant team that we have all come to expect, they go right back to bringing their lazy B half assed diet wings game. If this team is to do anything in the playoffs, nothing but their best game will suffice. They need to start taking the remaining games seriously heading into the playoffs. I don't care about where they finish in the standings but I do care about how they are playing going into the playoffs. They will be playing a team which has had to scrap and claw and fight their way just to get into the playoffs. So their level of play better be on par with that or it could be like 2006 all over again.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:31 AM

Listless. It's a damn shame to see such a talented group of players, who can easily hang in there with every team in this league, just disintegrate like this in the waning moments. They were getting a pretty dominant performance by their goalie, terrible shots were going in, and they held the flow of play for the bulk of the game. The 3rd came back to bite them in the ass big time and I could just feel it after the 3rd goal. I know it is easy to pick on players at this point but Franzen and Ericsson to me look like they have completely forgotten how to play. Ericsson in particular has just been frustrating me to no end with his dips*** giveaways and little to no use of his large frame. He is far from the biggest problem but he is currently easily replaceable out there with someone like Kindl, who also had a dips*** giveaway. Excuses are tired and done and need to be thrown the hell out and this team simply needs their hunger back. That, my friends, is a hard thing to coach and teach but I still have confidence we can turn this thing around SOMEHOW.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 10:52 AM

Who needs pucks, just skate.. Again, Again, Again
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 01:09 PM

The problem is the other teams have "their number" now and know how to play them. Come on Wings, time to change things up. Haven't you figured that out yet????? :blink:


It really looks like that. Several teams seem to know exactly how to shut us down. It's not just the Wings not showing up, it's the other teams clogging center ice and not giving us room to use our puck possession style.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 01:53 PM

The problem is the other teams have "their number" now and know how to play them. Come on Wings, time to change things up. Haven't you figured that out yet????? :blink:

Exactly - it's been known for the past several years; forecheck the hell outta Detroit, and wear them down in their own end of the ice.

Puck possession works well in the reg season, but as we've seen in the past - the playoffs is a different story.

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