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#21 russianswede919293

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 09:52 PM

Too early to say. But the Wings have 14 forwards this year. Modano, Draper, Eaves and Miller are all UFAs.

They have Mursak and Emmerton both out of options and possibly Ilari and Tatar ready to come up.

So My thoughts are no...

My guess is Draper is back on a 2-way and spends most of the year in Grand Rapids, Tatar spends his last year in Grand Rapids and Mursak, Emmerton, Ilari and Miller will compete for spots with Eaves almost a shoe in to keep his job.

So with the forward depth we have, i say no.

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 10:45 PM

I'd like us to get younger. I know we've got around and around with this kind of discussion about 4,156,813,266 times, but seriously get some muscle up front. A grinder. If we meet a team like San Jose in the playoffs, we're gonna get grinded right into the ice. Jared Boll, David Clarkson, Dan Carcillo, Chris Thorburn, Gregory Campbell, and Zenon Konopka are all available this off-season, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg.
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Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:01 PM

I'd like us to get younger. I know we've got around and around with this kind of discussion about 4,156,813,266 times, but seriously get some muscle up front. A grinder. If we meet a team like San Jose in the playoffs, we're gonna get grinded right into the ice. Jared Boll, David Clarkson, Dan Carcillo, Chris Thorburn, Gregory Campbell, and Zenon Konopka are all available this off-season, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg.


Ooh, then maybe we can get preferential treatment on supplemental discipline :ph34r:

J/k, I see where you are going with this and I agree. There are too many young, grinding forwards out there for us to keep bringing in and/or resigning aging skill. If I had it my way, aside from Lidstrom no one over the age of 35 should even be considered as a free agent signing, Draper needs to hang them up after this year and make room for the kids from GR (or sign a 2 way deal and play in GR for mentoring purposes), Modano should retire, and we need to lock up Eaves multi-year and bring in one of the aforementioned gritty guys.

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:04 PM

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:20 PM

I'd say that two of Modano, Eaves, Miller, and Draper are staying. At this point, I'm not sure who the two will be (although one (or both) of Miller and Eaves is likely).


I really don't see Draper leaving after this year, he's been too good. Eaves is money and is the best of the lot. Mursak replaces Miller. Unfortunately Modano needs to go but probably wont.

Too early to say. But the Wings have 14 forwards this year. Modano, Draper, Eaves and Miller are all UFAs.

They have Mursak and Emmerton both out of options and possibly Ilari and Tatar ready to come up.

So My thoughts are no...

My guess is Draper is back on a 2-way and spends most of the year in Grand Rapids, Tatar spends his last year in Grand Rapids and Mursak, Emmerton, Ilari and Miller will compete for spots with Eaves almost a shoe in to keep his job.

So with the forward depth we have, i say no.


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Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:38 PM

It really is a tough call just for the reasons already mentioned, we have some youth available but it really depends on how "ready" these young players are. We don't want a team of grinders and too much youth either.

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:58 PM

I'd like us to get younger. I know we've got around and around with this kind of discussion about 4,156,813,266 times, but seriously get some muscle up front. A grinder. If we meet a team like San Jose in the playoffs, we're gonna get grinded right into the ice. Jared Boll, David Clarkson, Dan Carcillo, Chris Thorburn, Gregory Campbell, and Zenon Konopka are all available this off-season, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg.

Yes please to all of those guys.

Seriously, what does Holland want with a 40 year old floater, who has always played soft and has already won cups so isn't hungry?

If we're signing and old guy it should be another Dallas Drake. Hasn't won a cup, will do anything to help the team win and can smash some bodies out there.

Old, washed up skill on the bottom lines is not how Detroit has ever built a championship team.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:44 AM

Carcillo would put a target on the Wings' stars for his continuous idiotic play.

I'm all for grit but it's worth noting the last two times the Wings won the Cup they were dead last in fighting majors in the regular season.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 06:19 AM

Too early to say. But the Wings have 14 forwards this year. Modano, Draper, Eaves and Miller are all UFAs.

They have Mursak and Emmerton both out of options and possibly Ilari and Tatar ready to come up.

So My thoughts are no...

My guess is Draper is back on a 2-way and spends most of the year in Grand Rapids, Tatar spends his last year in Grand Rapids and Mursak, Emmerton, Ilari and Miller will compete for spots with Eaves almost a shoe in to keep his job.

So with the forward depth we have, i say no.

iFlip I would say is 99% chance an AHL player for life, hes good, but, it really seems that the Wings Org has him low on the depth chart and see him more as a veteran presence in the AHL, which as I keep saying is not a horrible thing, having an older Euro there to help the kids adjust and get use to the NA game and life is something the wings really have needed.

As for Modo next year, I say save the cash and make a run at Brad Richards.
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Posted 22 March 2011 - 12:09 PM

Eaves and Draper likely stay. Mursak and Emmerton will compete to wear the Wheel. Ilari definitely stays in GR - despite being touted as one of the AHL's best. I think there's a strong possibility they bring Modano back at the right price. He's yet to really have the time to blend with the team, given his injury, and he's been pretty solid the last few games. Maybe I'm just noticing because it's Mo, but he's been fast and strong on the puck.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 12:37 PM

It took Modano nearly 20 games to get comfortable and going, and then his injury sidelined him. Therefore, it's unclear if we should consider what he's done since coming back as proof of what he brings to the table. He's got to get comfortable all over again.

If he picks it up some going into the playoffs and throughout, then yeah, no brainer, if he's cheap he's a good depth signing. Just look at how Bertuzzi turned around once he came back for his second go round healthier and more comfortable.
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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:15 PM

I like this scenario better: We win the cup, he retires wearing the Winged Wheel and goes out on top...

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:25 PM

I love Mo, and he's played decently, but nah we gotta get younger and grittier.

We've been hearing this same thing for 2 decades now.

Yes please to all of those guys.

Seriously, what does Holland want with a 40 year old floater, who has always played soft and has already won cups so isn't hungry?

If we're signing and old guy it should be another Dallas Drake. Hasn't won a cup, will do anything to help the team win and can smash some bodies out there.

Old, washed up skill on the bottom lines is not how Detroit has ever built a championship team.

I'm sure this would be news to Mike.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:25 PM

I like this scenario better: We win the cup, he retires wearing the Winged Wheel and goes out on top...

Exactly. Probably the only one that makes all of us happy I am sure. I can't really see him coming back next year even though the past few games he really seems to have hit his stride with Flip. We shall see, but I'd like to have Eaves back (main priority imo), Drapes can also come back seeing as he is a useful depth guy to have and great locker room presence, and Mursak comes up full time. Miller is out and most likely so is Mikey.
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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:36 PM

Exactly. Probably the only one that makes all of us happy I am sure. I can't really see him coming back next year even though the past few games he really seems to have hit his stride with Flip. We shall see, but I'd like to have Eaves back (main priority imo), Drapes can also come back seeing as he is a useful depth guy to have and great locker room presence, and Mursak comes up full time. Miller is out and most likely so is Mikey.

That's pretty much my view on the roster priority to the tee...

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:39 PM

I'd like us to get younger. I know we've got around and around with this kind of discussion about 4,156,813,266 times, but seriously get some muscle up front. A grinder. If we meet a team like San Jose in the playoffs, we're gonna get grinded right into the ice. Jared Boll, David Clarkson, Dan Carcillo, Chris Thorburn, Gregory Campbell, and Zenon Konopka are all available this off-season, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg.

I agree with the players you mention. However, Boll and Campbell aren't UFAs after this season. There are always a few good guys available in the off-season- last year Prust, Konopka, Boll, etc were there and I'm sure there will be others this year. This is probably a topic best served for the off-season, but as you probably know by now, I hope the Wings can pick someone up like the players you mentioned.

EDIT- I was a Carcillo fan before this year, but he does too much talking and not enough fighting. A couple weeks ago against the Leafs he mouthed off to the Leafs' bench, then mouthed off to Brown and cross-checked him. Brown challenged him and Carcillo skated away. I'm all for getting under the other team's skin, but I believe there needs to be some amount of honor in a player's game. I saw that from Carcillo when he was with Phoenix, but I haven't seen it much from him since.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:48 PM

Jared Boll, David Clarkson, Dan Carcillo, Chris Thorburn, Gregory Campbell, and Zenon Konopka are all available this off-season, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg.

You had those pipe dreams last offseason too. I don't want to be the one to break it to you, but I truly cannot see the Wings pursuing these players. Furthermore, I would much rather we conserve as much cap space and throw a truck load Shea Weber's way. I realize that might be even more of a pipe dream than the names you have presented but it's a franchise changing type move that will make this fanbase overjoyed. There is a strange link between the Wings and Weber. I wonder if this could happen.....
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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:56 PM

As long as Mursak is on the team next year I'm fine with Modano.
Emmerton, Miller and Draper - I do not think it will be devastating to lose one or two of them.
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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:56 PM

You had those pipe dreams last offseason too. I don't want to be the one to break it to you, but I truly cannot see the Wings pursuing these players. Furthermore, I would much rather we conserve as much cap space and throw a truck load Shea Weber's way. I realize that might be even more of a pipe dream than the names you have presented but it's a franchise changing type move that will make this fanbase overjoyed. There is a strange link between the Wings and Weber. I wonder if this could happen.....

All of the players mentioned in that post are better skaters/players than Downey was. Therefore, I don't think it is ridiculous to think that the Wings' may sign one of them. However, any move is likely more based on roster space than need. The Wings' essentially had 13 forwards before Modano, and therefore trying to sign one of these players wasn't a possibility (due to Modano's decision time).

Weber would cost 8+ million and FOUR first round draft picks (required by the CBA for signing a RFA to a 5+ mill contract). Getting Suter in two years is more likely and more feasible. For how this franchise values draft picks, I don't see them letting four first round picks go for Weber. I'm not saying it isn't worth it, but it is unlikely.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 02:03 PM

You had those pipe dreams last offseason too. I don't want to be the one to break it to you, but I truly cannot see the Wings pursuing these players. Furthermore, I would much rather we conserve as much cap space and throw a truck load Shea Weber's way. I realize that might be even more of a pipe dream than the names you have presented but it's a franchise changing type move that will make this fanbase overjoyed. There is a strange link between the Wings and Weber. I wonder if this could happen.....

No way Nashville lets him get away and we won't have the cap space as Lids is looking very likely to be back...

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