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[stevkrause]

I see more where you are coming from now. To me, until Emmerton makes the NHL (full-time) he isn't an important asset right now, but I can see why you value him. I said it about Ritola and I'll say it about Emmerton- I don't think he has a future with the Wings, but I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong if he earns it.

I really like Boll too- he brings it every night. Konopka hasn't looked at 'stupid' this year, but he's also playing with a tougher team (probably doesn't feel like he always has to retaliate). I mention Rosehill because you aren't going to see Boll, Konopka, or Prust type players accepting a 14th forward spot. Usually these spots are relegated to lesser-skilled enforcers, and I don't see the Wings wanting a prospect sitting in the press-box 30+ games a year. Of the fighters willing to take a 14th forward spot, Rosehill is probably the most skilled. Haley has also impressed me in his time up with the Isles, but I'm not sold on his skating. Also, I think Callahan will need a mentor when he enters the NHL in a few years. While this is further away, I think it is important.

I think I can please us both (with a lot of ifs). If Drapes and Modano retire, and Miller isn't re-signed we have (lines not important).
ZDH
Franzen-Flip-Bert
Cleary-Abby-Huds
Eaves-Helm-Mursak
Emmerton/Rosehill

If Drapes and/or Modano doesn't retire and Miller is re-signed, we might both be unhappy (loose Emmerton and don't get a gritty guy).

That's part of the problem, there are just too many variables to really look at free agents for next year at this time and even with retirements, there'd have to be a trade, or a player let go to waivers/FA to even then consider it... with that said, I still think Drapes has some left in the tank and if he's willing to come back at 1m or less, his value can't be quantified in pure numbers...

back to the topic, as for Mo, I think the playoffs will determine his future here, from his perspective and from the Wings brass...

[WorkingOvertime]

That's part of the problem, there are just too many variables to really look at free agents for next year at this time and even with retirements, there'd have to be a trade, or a player let go to waivers/FA to even then consider it... with that said, I still think Drapes has some left in the tank and if he's willing to come back at 1m or less, his value can't be quantified in pure numbers...

back to the topic, as for Mo, I think the playoffs will determine his future here, from his perspective and from the Wings brass...

Agree. We're about three months early with our discussion.

We can't judge Modano until the playoffs are over. Thus far, he has been streaky (if you can call it that). If he can keep playing well through the playoffs, he will likely return. However, if he slows down (since he hasn't been back from injury for a while) it may be time for him to hang them up.

[eva unit zero]

Agree. We're about three months early with our discussion.

We can't judge Modano until the playoffs are over. Thus far, he has been streaky (if you can call it that). If he can keep playing well through the playoffs, he will likely return. However, if he slows down (since he hasn't been back from injury for a while) it may be time for him to hang them up.

It can't be called streaky. That implies he's been worthwhile for extended periods.

[GMRwings1983]

It can't be called streaky. That implies he's been worthwhile for extended periods.

He was on an 82 point pace at one point, though.

[Booster313]

Since when did $5.5m become a 'reasonable forward'??
This is not Toronto or The Rangers!

I just meant not paying 6-8 million I am thinking a 70-80pt player just didn't feel like filling in a name. If we spend less great.

[Tr!PoD#19]

Didn't read thread, but god I hope not.

[Booster313]

Helm will be making more after this season. Eaves is a huge pk'er and has been playing with heart all season, i dont forsee Holland letting him go. As much as miller is trying to prove his icetime currently i see him getting the let go. Draper may retire after this season. Lidstrom will most likely come back after this season but take once again another paycut. Osgood was saying since his surgery he'll see how he does and see how the future lays.

The whole point to this was we have the cap space to bring in some real talent on either D or at Forward. We can bring in up to 4-6million in free agents depending on how we want to spend it.

EDIT: Helm is signed through next year so unless you think he is going to renegotiate his contract that's what he will make.

Edited by Booster313, 23 March 2011 - 09:13 PM.

[eva unit zero]

He was on an 82 point pace at one point, though.

If you figure that a first line forward takes 20 shifts per game, then you could argue that at various points this season he has been on pace for nearly 250 points if he were given first line time.

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros]

If you figure that a first line forward takes 20 shifts per game, then you could argue that at various points this season he has been on pace for nearly 250 points if he were given first line time.

At one point, Justin Abdelkader was on pace for about 410 penalty minutes.