MGreenberg 105 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 Hopefully Howard can bounce back tonight but I think it was REALLY stupid on the Wings part to send MacDonald back down. Hope they can pull of a win tonight but will be hard with Bertuzzi out now as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 Hopefully Howard can bounce back tonight but I think it was REALLY stupid on the Wings part to send MacDonald back down. Hope they can pull of a win tonight but will be hard with Bertuzzi out now as well. per mlive Fear not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate94gt 134 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 I have always thought the P trophy was a curse too so I did some digging and found this Great article analyzing Presidents Trophy winners and playoff performance and it suggests that finishing 1st overall in the regular season isn't quite the playoff curse we all tend to believe. I think the reality is just that we all tend to remember train wrecks by top teams than we do their deep runs. Lost in first round: FIVE (25 percent) -- 1991 Chicago Blackhawks, 2000 St. Louis Blues, 2004 Detroit Red wings, 2009 San Jose Sharks, 2010 Washington Capitals Lost in second round: THREE (15 percent) 1992 New York Rangers, 1993 Pittsburgh Penguins, 2006 Detroit Red Wings Lost in third round: FIVE (25 percent) 1996 Detroit Red Wings, 1997 Colorado Avalanche, 1998 Dallas Stars, 2003 Ottawa Senators, 2007 Buffalo Sabres Lost in Stanley Cup Final: TWO (10 percent) 1990 Boston Bruins, 1995 Detroit Red Wings Won Stanley Cup: FIVE (25 percent) 1994 New York Rangers, 1999 Dallas Stars, 2001 Colorado Avalanche, 2002 Detroit Red Wings, 2008 Detroit Red Wings lol, the wings teams have been listed in every single one of those statistics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MGreenberg 105 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) per mlive Fear not. Yeah, I saw the other thread about Ozzie after I posted that. Good to know Joey is still in there, I hope he can get another start or two before the playoffs. I want to see if he can continue playing the way he has, I mean 3-1 with a shutout in his last five games and a save percentage of 94%. Edited March 23, 2011 by MGreenberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladiator 116 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 Hoping that Ken does the PBP call like he did last night on VS. 1 WingZNut13 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingZNut13 99 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 I'll be watching this one from work. Not looking forward to hearing Pierre talk. I think it'll be a close game...wings win 3-2 in OT Mursak gets the game winner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) mursak is playing on the zetterberg line? f*** i might have to watch this game ozzie is whatever, i feel confident with joey in net Edited March 23, 2011 by brett Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k3sparks 1 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 Ryan Kesler and Darren Helm put on an amazing show of speed and grit, each bagging a goal. Detroit gets lucky during OT 3-2 Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aMonster 96 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 Ryan Kesler and Darren Helm put on an amazing show of speed and grit, each bagging a goal. Detroit gets lucky during OT 3-2 Wings. I'll second that, 3-2 OT win for Wings. Canucks love losing in OT to Detroit this year for whatever reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 119 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 I have always thought the P trophy was a curse too so I did some digging and found this Great article analyzing Presidents Trophy winners and playoff performance and it suggests that finishing 1st overall in the regular season isn't quite the playoff curse we all tend to believe. I think the reality is just that we all tend to remember train wrecks by top teams than we do their deep runs. Lost in first round: FIVE (25 percent) -- 1991 Chicago Blackhawks, 2000 St. Louis Blues, 2004 Detroit Red wings, 2009 San Jose Sharks, 2010 Washington Capitals Lost in second round: THREE (15 percent) 1992 New York Rangers, 1993 Pittsburgh Penguins, 2006 Detroit Red Wings Lost in third round: FIVE (25 percent) 1996 Detroit Red Wings, 1997 Colorado Avalanche, 1998 Dallas Stars, 2003 Ottawa Senators, 2007 Buffalo Sabres Lost in Stanley Cup Final: TWO (10 percent) 1990 Boston Bruins, 1995 Detroit Red Wings Won Stanley Cup: FIVE (25 percent) 1994 New York Rangers, 1999 Dallas Stars, 2001 Colorado Avalanche, 2002 Detroit Red Wings, 2008 Detroit Red Wings Correct me if I am wrong.... 75% of the P trophy winners did NOT win the Stanley Cup... seems like a curse to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingcapt 52 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 i am hoping for the performance we saw from jimmy a few months ago in Vancouver. GO WINGS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 Tonight's OfficialsReferees Eric Furlatt (#27) & Don VanMassenhoven (#21) Linesmen Vaughan Rody (#73) & Tony Sericolo (#84) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 If we continue to play non full 60 minute games we will lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACallToArms 270 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 I have always thought the P trophy was a curse too so I did some digging and found this Great article analyzing Presidents Trophy winners and playoff performance and it suggests that finishing 1st overall in the regular season isn't quite the playoff curse we all tend to believe. I think the reality is just that we all tend to remember train wrecks by top teams than we do their deep runs. Lost in first round: FIVE (25 percent) -- 1991 Chicago Blackhawks, 2000 St. Louis Blues, 2004 Detroit Red wings, 2009 San Jose Sharks, 2010 Washington Capitals Lost in second round: THREE (15 percent) 1992 New York Rangers, 1993 Pittsburgh Penguins, 2006 Detroit Red Wings Lost in third round: FIVE (25 percent) 1996 Detroit Red Wings, 1997 Colorado Avalanche, 1998 Dallas Stars, 2003 Ottawa Senators, 2007 Buffalo Sabres Lost in Stanley Cup Final: TWO (10 percent) 1990 Boston Bruins, 1995 Detroit Red Wings Won Stanley Cup: FIVE (25 percent) 1994 New York Rangers, 1999 Dallas Stars, 2001 Colorado Avalanche, 2002 Detroit Red Wings, 2008 Detroit Red Wings Here you go, ruining our fun with these facts and statistics... Still doesn't really dispel the myth. Of the years sampled, only 25% of Presidents Trophy winners won the cup. That's still pretty low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 So, if Canucks fans can't blame Luongo for a failure to go "all the way", Plan B is the "President's Trophy Curse"? They should consider this guy to blame: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 I have always thought the P trophy was a curse too so I did some digging and found this Great article analyzing Presidents Trophy winners and playoff performance and it suggests that finishing 1st overall in the regular season isn't quite the playoff curse we all tend to believe. I think the reality is just that we all tend to remember train wrecks by top teams than we do their deep runs. Lost in first round: FIVE (25 percent) -- 1991 Chicago Blackhawks, 2000 St. Louis Blues, 2004 Detroit Red wings, 2009 San Jose Sharks, 2010 Washington Capitals Lost in second round: THREE (15 percent) 1992 New York Rangers, 1993 Pittsburgh Penguins, 2006 Detroit Red Wings Lost in third round: FIVE (25 percent) 1996 Detroit Red Wings, 1997 Colorado Avalanche, 1998 Dallas Stars, 2003 Ottawa Senators, 2007 Buffalo Sabres Lost in Stanley Cup Final: TWO (10 percent) 1990 Boston Bruins, 1995 Detroit Red Wings Won Stanley Cup: FIVE (25 percent) 1994 New York Rangers, 1999 Dallas Stars, 2001 Colorado Avalanche, 2002 Detroit Red Wings, 2008 Detroit Red Wings This is wrong. The Wings lost in the first round in 2006, not the second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 This is wrong. The Wings lost in the first round in 2006, not the second. It's also wrong because Canucks fans suck 1 Lovin Jiri Fischer reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 Well should be an interesting game tonight. Jimmy needs to control his rebounds and play a good game, as with everyone else.. I'm seeing a big game from Helm, Flip and Z tonight.. LETS GO RED WINGS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aMonster 96 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 Here you go, ruining our fun with these facts and statistics... Still doesn't really dispel the myth. Of the years sampled, only 25% of Presidents Trophy winners won the cup. That's still pretty low. Of course every playoff bound team wants to win the cup but in the immortal words of Christopher Lambert... "There can be only one". I don't think most fans around the league consider a deep playoff run to be a complete disappointment, which is mostly reserved for 1st or 2nd round departures. I want a cup and therefor Detroit cant have one however, neither of us are going to crucify our teams as chokers for losing in the conference final, well perhaps some but not many. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 So is Hudler in for sure tonight or game time decision? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) So is Hudler in for sure tonight or game time decision? They will see how he feels after the warm-up. Hopefully he can give it a go and boost a bit to the PP. Addition: See below post! Way to tough it out happy. Edited March 23, 2011 by HankthaTank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
germanwing 154 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 freep.com reports, Hudler is in! http://www.freep.com/article/20110323/SPORTS05/110323018/1053/Osgood-back-IR-MacDonald-will-Red-Wings-backup ...Jiri Hudler is in tonight, though, as he decided he could deal with the soreness in his neck and left shoulder, dating to a hit last Wednesday.“I feel good,” Hudler said. “It’s still sore and stiff, but I want to play. It’s no fun for me, treatments. We just have to make it loose a little bit. I want to play.” Hudler’s availability gives the Wings 12 healthy forwards.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 Anyone have a clue on the lines for us tonight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) Should be a good game tonight. Both teams are dealing with a number of quality injured players -- and for the Canucks Kevin Bieksa is in his first game back after about 6 weeks so he will be a little rusty. The chatter on Vancouver sports radio today is that this could be the last truly meaningful game of the regular season for the Canucks. If they can beat Detroit tonight it's pretty much coasting from here on out. With the Canucks not having played in nearly a week, I expect they will be a little out-of-synch to begin with and the Wings will really take it to them in the first period and get an early lead. If the Canucks can start the second period only one or two goals down they should be able to make a game of it. Another thing they talked about on Vancouver radio today was the hot topic of the day; dirty hits, head injuries and suspensions. They said that you just never hear about Detroit talked about in that context. Obviously, that was flattering towareds the Red Wings. The media in Vancouver has a great deal of respect for Ken Holland and your team. Edited March 23, 2011 by Chairman Maouth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakKy 58 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 If finishing 1st in the league gives us a 25% chance of winning the cup give us the President's Trophy please... 1 in 4 chance is pretty damn good considering the playoffs by nature give everyone who qualifies a 1 in 16 chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites