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#1 WorkingOvertime

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 08:51 PM

In the Rags/Isles game Prust and Gillies were given 10 min misconducts for talking before a faceoff. Just after, Dubby and Martin dropped their gloves (but not punches thrown) and the refs break them up and throw them both out.

I understand this is one team is going after another team's players, but these incidents are almost always mutual. Why does the NHL feel the need to throw these willing players out of the game?

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:01 PM

1) Why are you watching the Islanders and Rangers?
2) Never seen or heard of players getting misconducts for chirping.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:03 PM

Maybe they felt the game was on the verge of getting out of hand and they decided to cool them both off. Depends on what they said, I guess...
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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:07 PM

As a ref, I can tell you if anyone gets chirpy with me on a personal level, they could get an additional 2 minutes or a misconduct depending on what is said.
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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:09 PM

You can get tossed in a baseball game without doing anything specific if the ump thinks you're about to spout off and make an ass of yourself. I don't know if the two situations are necessarily similar, though. You don't get the kind of heated altercations in a baseball game that you will in a hockey game. I've personally never heard of this happening before -- anytime I've seen a player get tossed in a hockey game, they've done something physical to warrant getting thrown out.

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#6 WorkingOvertime

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:42 PM

I'll try to find a video for you all. This is not an irregular occurrence in games with lop-sided scores. Like I said, I understand if one team is being targeted, but Prust and Gillies are both willing.

To give a better explanation, the team were lined up for the face-off. Prust and Gillies are talking (nothing more physical than on any other face-off) when the refs skates to them both and points to the door. On the ensuing face-off, Dubby and Martin drop the gloves but are escorted off the ice before they can fight. Here is the box-score showing only misconducts were given.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/sc...score/?id=13722

1) Why are you watching the Islanders and Rangers?
2) Never seen or heard of players getting misconducts for chirping.

1) I'm a huge hockey fan, and this is a rivalry game. I am a fan of the sport of hockey, and then the Red Wings- not the reverse. You should try watching some other teams sometime.
2) Watch more hockey and you will see it.

EDIT- I would think this is the type of fight the NHL wants. Prust is upset that the Rags are getting hammered on the scoreboard, and Gillies is upset that the Isles non-fighters are fighting. The two players are (fairly) evenly match and want to fight. If this cuts down on one of them doing something dirty I'm all for it.

Ironically, both Gillies and Prust scored tonight.

Edited by WorkingOvertime, 31 March 2011 - 09:48 PM.


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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:52 PM

As a ref, I can tell you if anyone gets chirpy with me on a personal level, they could get an additional 2 minutes or a misconduct depending on what is said.

f*** you ref!!! :P

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 10:26 PM

Trevor Gillies has a target on his back. Everything he does is going to be watched closely, at least short term.

Anyways good to see the Isles/Rangers rivalry is alive :thumbup: who says there's no bad blood in hockey anymore?
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Posted 03 April 2011 - 07:58 PM

I was at the Blues/CBJ game tonight and this happened again. Dorsett and Crombeem were ready to fight, but the refs stepped in. They talked on the way back to the bench- but there was not contact- and the refs gave them both 10 minute misconducts. This kept them out for the rest of the game.

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 08:06 PM

If you have a voice like Glibert Gottfried I'm sure you'd get kicked out a lot for talking.

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:51 AM

If you have a voice like Glibert Gottfried I'm sure you'd get kicked out a lot for talking.

This makes me wonder why Emerick is still announcing games. He knows his stuff, but his voice is irritating. Maybe it's because the refs don't have to listen to him.

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:54 AM

I got a 10 minute last year for talking smack. The ref told me as I was skating to the box that he was doing it so the game doesn't get out of hand.

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:55 AM

This makes me wonder why Emerick is still announcing games. He knows his stuff, but his voice is irritating. Maybe it's because the refs don't have to listen to him.

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 09:55 AM

i don't understand it, there's been worst things done at games, players acting like idiots, hell who was it that made the sucking a d motion with his tounge to avery earlier this season? The chick who was trying to flash her **** sitting row 0, come on. If the boys gotta talk about something let them do it.

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