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#21 shoe

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 10:21 PM

apparently johan franzen is a member here at LGW :ph34r:


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Posted 03 April 2011 - 10:30 PM

People who have been saying "well of course it's Datsyuk, (winning percentage stats)" are ignoring reality. How well would the Wings have done had it been Z out instead of Datsyuk during that time frame? If the Wings just kept plugging along at a .650 or .700 or whatever it is, that would be a fair argument for Datsyuk not being an elite center.

Zetterberg is the team's MVP this season. His performance has carried the team both as the best player and as the leader. If you look back, the notable bad games the team has had are all times when Z had a bad game. St. Louis most recently. Z carried the team offensively when Dats first went out, and if not for the lack of defensive structure and the goaltending failures, the Wings would be in a much stronger position due to giving up far fewer goals and thus having won many more games.

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 11:01 PM

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 11:02 PM

"As soon Pavel gets on the ice, the whole team suddenly has more space and has the puck way more," said Wings coach Mike Babcock. "I don't know why, but that's just the way it is. He scares you."

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 11:04 PM

Without a doubt, Datsyuk.

The only reason not to vote for him would be all the time missed due to injuries.

Honorable mention:

Zetterberg
Lidstrom
Helm

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 11:09 PM

The Wings slipped to third in the conference, and lacked a lot of creativity wihth the puck, in the weeks without Datsyuk. That ought to tell you something.

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 11:20 PM

I think Datsyuk and Helm have been the two biggest difference makers.

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 11:29 PM

I see the argument for Zetterberg, if he hadn't been able to carry the team with Datsyuk out they'd be dead in the water. However, Datsyuk has just been amazing and integral to our success. It's amazing how the team goes from unsure of themselves to dominance.

I honestly don't think Lidstrom has been MVP. I don't want to speak ill of him, but to outsiders it appears as if his leadership was lacking a bit. He's having a great year, no doubt, but nobody has carried this team like Zetterberg and Datsyuk.

Helm should also be an honorable mention, but he's not MVP because he hasn't carried the team. The way he's so hard working and consistently making things happen out there makes me want to give him MVP, though.
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Posted 03 April 2011 - 11:51 PM

The Wings slipped to third in the conference, and lacked a lot of creativity wihth the puck, in the weeks without Datsyuk. That ought to tell you something.


Yeah, it tells us all "Replacing an elite talent with a fourth-liner will make your team less effective."

Say the Wings keep the current roster next year, save for Lidstrom due to retirement, and Meech is named the 7th defenseman... how do you think that would work out in the standings? Division champs? Top 4? Top 8? Bottom-feeder? Datsyuk being out is big, but it's not like all of the other Wings are just sitting there saying "Hey Pav, go do something." as you make it. And having a top center like Datsyuk out is a HUGE blow to a team, whether he is their MVP or not. Having Lids or Z out for that much would have been just as bad.

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#30 Datsyerberger

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 03:12 AM

Lidstrom. Datsyuk is being overrated here because of the games he missed and the subsequent Wings performance. While he is a close second, I don't even want to imagine what this team would look like with Lidstrom out 20+ games.
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Posted 04 April 2011 - 03:23 AM

Between Z, Dats and Lids it's very close.

But Dats has missed a few too many games. And our defense has been pretty bad, I think even Lids has been less than amazing defensively on many nights which his +/- indicates.

Z however has been carrying a heavy burden when Pav has been out, and most of the time he has done a great job.

So I voted for Z. Even though I think Pavel has been our best player, when he has been able to play.

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 04:36 AM

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 05:09 AM

no Helm......no vote!

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 05:31 AM

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:20 AM

It has to be Pash but to not even list Helm is a bit of a joke. He gets honorable mention but as most have said, this is just a totally different team when 13 is out there. At one point he was probably vying for the Hart before the injuries. Definitely Datsyuk with some kudos to Helm, Z, and Nick.
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Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:35 AM

After much deliberation

Zetterberg. I just think he was one of the rocks this season (HM, Lidstrom). Had a very impressive but under the radar regular season and picked up the slack where he needed to. Maybe to a fault.

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:40 AM

This team is much better with Dats in lineup so I will give it to him. Honorable mentions to Lids, Hank and Helm.
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Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:45 AM

I am going to have to change it up. Hank has been simply spectacular without Pav and shouldering the offensive load. Some of his performances are just mind boggling and not on the stat sheet either. He is just as dogged on the puck as I have ever seen him and that isn't even to make the excuse (which "I will right now) about his back issues too. Just a great season for Hank this year, my boy blue!!! Posted Image Might get a vote or 2 for the Hart too, ya never know.
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Posted 04 April 2011 - 12:52 PM

Voted Zetterberg. He carried us while Datsyuk was injured.


i voted Z. not cause he's my favorite player, as Dats is up there a hair beneath him for favorite, but because Z's been the backbone of this team. he hasn't missed a game all year, and he's been responsible to carry the load with massive amounts of injuries to the others. Dats missed 25, cleary missed a bunch, stuart missed weeks....the list continues. and Z is 1 over a point a game in a very trying season. lids has also been great, but Z has been driving hard all year doing everything from PP to PK. i really hope he gets his 2nd wind come playoff time cause he's been going so hard this year. he'd look great with another conn smythe to accompany his playoff beard. though i'd really like to see Dats or Helm win the conn smythe. yes...Helm!

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 01:06 PM

I know people are giving Dats a lot of votes (which is hardly a bad choice) because of how the team performed when he was out. The thing is, this team has almost never been without Lidstrom for any significant stretc, which is pretty amazing, and also why it's hard to get the impact of how they'd be without him. I think you have to go back to 2008 when he had the knee sprain.





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