commadore183 103 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=558613 Video of the hit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gVYajulVm8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 I can see that. This one may not have been terribly dirty but he owes the NHL for his previous cheap shots on Williams and Helm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 Definitely a hit to the head, but I didn't think it was dirty by any means. I hate all these head hits that are happening when guys are stretching out to get a puck or leaning over in some fashion and contact to the head is unfortunately made. Keep yer head up boy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted April 7, 2011 I can see that. This one may not have been terribly dirty but he owes the NHL for his previous cheap shots on Williams and Helm. I've never thought that the hit on Williams was illegal. Definitely a hit to the head, but I didn't think it was dirty by any means. I hate all these head hits that are happening when guys are stretching out to get a puck or leaning over in some fashion and contact to the head is unfortunately made. Keep yer head up boy. Blindside hit. Suspendable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) I would give it zero games (very similar to Bertuzzi's recent hit)... Wouldn't gripe much over 1 or 2. 2 + 2 playoff games is ridiculous. Edited April 7, 2011 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 I've never thought that the hit on Williams was illegal. Perhaps not, but he is still a douchebag for taking the run anyway. He took a charge and picked him out way before Williams passed the net. It also doesn't help that I cannot stand the guy in general. 1 Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blueliner 69 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 Definitely a hit to the head, but I didn't think it was dirty by any means. I hate all these head hits that are happening when guys are stretching out to get a puck or leaning over in some fashion and contact to the head is unfortunately made. Keep yer head up boy. It was Torres. Therefore, it was intentional. 1 Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 Blindside hit. Suspendable. Just b/c it's blindside doesn't make is suspendable. Blindside hits where the principle point of contact is the head are suspendable. This hit falls under that category so there isn't much argument. I just don't agree with how aggressive they started nailing people for stuff that was unintentional. I don't care for Torres, or the Canucks, so I could really care less, but it's the integrity of the game that is at stake. It's like Bert's hit. Luckily he didn't get suspended, but I don't see how the NHL got that right. In that instance, Tuzzi could have laid him out but slowed down and turned to lessen the impact. It was Johnson who made a weird move to avoid the check and put himself in a bad position to take a hit and ended putting his head in the open. On a lesser note, even the Abdelkader hit a few games back was a BS call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 See now clean hits get suspensions, what did I tell everyone? They should just ban hitting now rather than making a mockery of hitting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 so is it ok to use your elbow as long as it is tucked? It looked legit to me but Hossa's goal looked like it was no good, so my view of the legalities in the NHL and the front offices are vastly different Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) See now clean hits get suspensions, what did I tell everyone? They should just ban hitting now rather than making a mockery of hitting Right. Because running around braining guys is just good clean hockey. It's funny how most of these suspendible hits keep happening to guys with a history of dirty play. Coincidence I guess. Cracking down on these hits shouldn't take it out of the game. What it hopefully will do is that players will make sure they can actually contact the body when they throw a check. When you come flying in on an angle perpendicular to the guy you're trying to hit, there's a really good chance you're going to miss his body and just clip a head. Especially if you throw a shoulder or elbow. Hitting is playing the body. Not the head. Edited April 7, 2011 by haroldsnepsts 1 mjlegend reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) It's a dirty hit.. can't feel bad even though I don't like these new rules. Don't agree with the length, but then again I think a penalty alone would have been justifiable. Edited April 7, 2011 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 4 games is too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 that was pretty nasty. i know the game is fast, but if you're in a position where you can't take the body then at least let up a little. raffi being raffi i guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOCKEY MATTERS 167 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) Who are he Canucks playing in he firs round? The #8 seed? If the refs hand 2 games to....... Torres is a moosefart, and karma is a *****. Edited April 7, 2011 by HOCKEY MATTERS 1 sputman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Right. Because running around braining guys is just good clean hockey. It's funny how most of these suspendible hits keep happening to guys with a history of dirty play. Coincidence I guess. Cracking down on these hits shouldn't take it out of the game. What it hopefully will do is that players will make sure they can actually contact the body when they throw a check. When you come flying in on an angle perpendicular to the guy you're trying to hit, there's a really good chance you're going to miss his body and just clip a head. Especially if you throw a shoulder or elbow. Hitting is playing the body. Not the head. It was a clean hit, i hate torres as everyone else, but there was nothing wrong with it, plays like that though brutal are part of the sport Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Torres is a moosefart, and karma is a *****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 It was a clean hit, i hate torres as everyone else, but there was nothing wrong with it, plays like that though brutal are part of the sport I'm sorry, but there was absolutely nothing clean about that hit. The worse part about it for me was that it wasn't one of those unfortunate head contact that can happen because everything happens so fast. In this situation, Torres appeared to have so much time to be able line up the hit properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 I totally understand the rule and the suspensions. I even like most of them. But I really don't see how that's worth 4 games. It looked to me like he got Eberle's shoulder/arm first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigWillieStyle 662 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 I would have been in agreement with 2 games. I have a feeling they just tacked on the other 2 for two reasons. 1) Torres' reputation as a cheapshotting *****. 2) To set a tone for the playoffs that the headshot rules still apply during the playoffs, and depending on who you are, or whom you play for, you may get suspended if you choose to go headhunting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 See now clean hits get suspensions, what did I tell everyone? They should just ban hitting now rather than making a mockery of hitting Yeah this was a real hockey play. Dear God don't take away our blindside charges intended to injure rather than make a play on the puck. SOMEONE CALL CHICKEN LITTLE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Yeah this was a real hockey play. Dear God don't take away our blindside charges intended to injure rather than make a play on the puck. SOMEONE CALL CHICKEN LITTLE! that wasn't a charge or a blindside, any body who plays hockey knows a hit is coming in that situation, you don't be an idiot and reach for a puck like that, lets just ban hitting and get it over with, in 10 years hitting a guy harder than just rubbing him out is going to be seen as cheap, that was as real of a hockey play as it gets and it has been in the game for decades, thanks for showing no knowledge of hockey, and thanks for being one of the idiots complaining about physicality and ruining the sport. I'm sorry, but there was absolutely nothing clean about that hit. The worse part about it for me was that it wasn't one of those unfortunate head contact that can happen because everything happens so fast. In this situation, Torres appeared to have so much time to be able line up the hit properly. how would he have hit him "properly" eberle was so low that torres would have had to slide across the ice and clip him not ot hit his head, he could have hipchecked him in the head, i don't know how people can say something this retarded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 I don't think there was really anything against the hockey rules in that hit. Despite the "intent to injury" part. Torres is a mumbling idiot if he doesn't realize that hitting someone's head like that can cause a serious injury. The fact that Eberle put himself in a vulnerable position is no excuse for Torres. He should've let up. "A good hockey play" is no excuse for behaviour where you know you have a good chance to break someone's neck. No matter how much your arms are tucked in or how much the other player should've kept his head up. It wasn't clever at all from Eberle to lean like that, he should know the risks, but Torres was reckless. Outside hockey rink when you try to injure someone they put you in prison. That shouldn't be any different inside the rink no matter how "good old hockey" it was. I enjoy physical hockey and clean hard hits can be beautiful, but I'm not a fan of violence. Hockey is a dangerous sport and players should know how much damage they can cause if they don't control themselves all the time. No matter how emotional they get during the game all the players should know that they are also human beings responsible of each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 exact same hit Steve Moore threw on Markus Naslund. the only thing out of the ordinary for Torres is that he didn't leave his feet to make this hit. Eberle didn't have possession of the puck. He was reaching for the puck and got destroyed. 4 games sounds fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 With the playoffs right around the corner, why would Torres choose now to go off his meds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites