newfy 695 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 I havent got the chance to watch a replay but it looked like a pretty blatant elbow, I think it should have been a penalty with no suspension but who knows with this NHL. I dont have a youtube or anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) Probably a game. Personally think it's an elbowing penalty, which I'm surprised the refs didn't catch given they looked more than eager to put the Wings down a man while ignoring Chicago antics. Edited April 10, 2011 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,048 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 Blow to the head. I'm expecting a game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 Blow to the head. I'm expecting a game. Agreed. Especially considering it was a blow to the head highlighted on NBC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
South Dakota wings fan 7 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 Blow to the head. I'm expecting a game. me too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 It was physics! No suspension! esteef 1 Holmstrom96 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reilly 24 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 So 2-min elbow penalties don't exist anymore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 Patric Hornqvist only got fined for this i need to see Abbys elbow again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) Against any other team? No. Against the Pens and/or Hawks? Likely. Edited April 10, 2011 by sleepwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 10, 2011 So 2-min elbow penalties don't exist anymore? Not in the NHL today. It's either "whoops, didn't see it" or "20 games". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaeb30 10 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 bertuzzi didnt get anything for his elbow a couple weeks ago... i doubt abby gets anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grypho 195 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) There is no question in my mind that Abby will get something. It's almost identical to the elbow-to-face shot that Dany Heatley recently gave to Steve Ott in our (Sharks) game against Dallas. It was a sweet shot to watch against a notorious rat/agitator, but for that Heatley received a two game suspension and $80,645.16 fine. Watch here and see if you can see much of a difference: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=556324 Edited April 10, 2011 by Grypho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 bertuzzi didnt get anything for his elbow a couple weeks ago... i doubt abby gets anything Yeah but this was worse than Bertuzzi's. Bert basically turned around and was trying to avoid hurting the guy when he caught him with his arm. It should've been a 2 minute elbow, but who knows what'll happen in the current hysteria of the NHL regarding headshots. Here's the YT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU7aF2UczaA&feature=player_embedded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 Didn't see it at the time, was definitely leading with the elbow and caught him in the head, even if he meant to get body first. A hit to the jaw like that hurts like all hell and can really dizzy you up as well. A game suspension might be in order. Tsk, tsk, Abby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grypho 195 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) Yeah but this was worse than Bertuzzi's. Bert basically turned around and was trying to avoid hurting the guy when he caught him with his arm. It should've been a 2 minute elbow, but who knows what'll happen in the current hysteria of the NHL regarding headshots. For comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU7aF2UczaA&feature=player_embedded (look at 0:30 far right of the screen)The difference in both cases (from the Bert shot) is that they obviously (or at least arguably) deliberate head shots. Edited April 10, 2011 by Grypho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) Yeah but this was worse than Bertuzzi's. Bert basically turned around and was trying to avoid hurting the guy when he caught him with his arm. It should've been a 2 minute elbow, but who knows what'll happen in the current hysteria of the NHL regarding headshots. Here's the YT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU7aF2UczaA&feature=player_embedded Damn... Now I'm torn. From the clip I saw in the game, at full speed, I thought it was a nice elbow... BUT...from that clip, honestly, it looks like a bit of embellishment to me on Seabrooks part; NOT saying Abby didn't catch him a bit, just that Seabrook, from that clip, looked to do a great job of trying to sell it. (just my opinion, of course) Edited April 10, 2011 by sleepwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 There is no question in my mind that Abby will get something. It's almost identical to the elbow-to-face shot that Dany Heatley recently gave to Steve Ott in our (Sharks) game against Dallas. It was a sweet shot to watch against a notorious rat/agitator, but for that Heatley received a two game suspension and $80,645.16 fine. Watch here and see if you can see much of a difference: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=556324 Ah. I was confused when you said it was Eager. But seriously, you can't see much difference between Abby's hit, where he's actually going to hit a guy along the boards who had played the puck, and Heatley's, where he throws an elbow as he skates past Ott? just for reference. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJvY2WjIbLM For comparison: The difference in both cases (from the Bert shot) is that they obviously (or at least arguably) deliberate head shots. The difference is that they're arguably the same? what? Now I'm starting to think you're a sharks fan just trolling. Abby's is worse than Bert's. But Abby's is nothing like what Heatley did. 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigWillieStyle 662 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 Looking at the replay, the only angle that we get to see, it looks like he had his elbow down quite a bit. Don't really know how it got up into Seabrooks' face, unless either Abby left his feet or Seabrook had his head down. Would really have to see another angle to make an honest call. It does look as if he tried to pull up to avoid getting hit and Abby got him clean in the face, though. I'm thinking a fine at most. Remember we get all the calls, and, we have Toronto in our pocket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 10, 2011 I see quite a difference between Heatley's and Abby's -- Abby doesn't go out of his way to throw an elbow like Heatley does. Still, a penalty is a penalty. Wouldn't argue with two minutes x game suspension which seems to be the norm today with NHL hits mostly disregarding intent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 He shouldn't not unless Duncan Keith is going to face discipline for his High Stick on Franzen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 Maybe one game. There are elbowing penalties and Seabrook completely sold it. He never missed a shift. Most likely just a fine at most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grypho 195 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 Ah. I was confused when you said it was Eager. But seriously, you can't see much difference between Abby's hit, where he's actually going to hit a guy along the boards who had played the puck, and Heatley's, where he throws an elbow as he skates past Ott? just for reference. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJvY2WjIbLM The difference is that they're arguably the same? what? Now I'm starting to think you're a sharks fan just trolling. Abby's is worse than Bert's. But Abby's is nothing like what Heatley did. I only meant that both shots appeared to be a) deliberate, and b) head shots. Whether a puck in play makes a difference to the NHL, I don't know. I think head shots, like high sticks, are illegal under any circumstances. As for trolling, everyone who knows me here knows that I'm hardly a troll (trolls don't have long term memberships and pay to become boosters). The Wings are my second-favorite team in the NHL, and always have been. Also, I am seriously ANTI-TROLL - vicious, actually, to the few Sharks fans who do come trolling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 I only meant that both shots appeared to be a) deliberate, and b) head shots. Whether a puck in play makes a difference to the NHL, I don't know. I think head shots, like high sticks, are illegal under any circumstances. As for trolling, everyone who knows me here knows that I'm hardly a troll (trolls don't have long term memberships and pay to become boosters). The Wings are my second-favorite team in the NHL, and always have been. Also, I am seriously ANTI-TROLL - vicious, actually, to the few Sharks fans who do come trolling. Sorry, maybe i jumped the gun on the trolling, but it is that time of year here. But I don't think Abby's is deliberate. Or at least not as clearly deliberate as Heatley's. Abdelkader is coming in for a legal check, turns his head away from the play and his elbow gets up a bit (but not really that much honestly) and he catches him in the jaw. It was reckless maybe because a player needs to be responsible for their actions, but I don't think deliberate. Whereas Heatley is headed up ice and goes out of his way to throw and elbow at Ott's head. Ott is a gutless puke so I can't say that it made me mad, but I don't think these two hits have much in common really. So when we're talking about suspensions I don't believe Heatley's makes a very good benchmark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 Well, being a Detroit player, Abby will probably be lucky to get 25 to life Seriously though, I think the hit looked worse than it was and the NHL will probably let it go considering all that the Hawks got away with today. IMO no harm done, off to the playoffs we go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate94gt 134 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 i wont be upset if he gets a game or 2. it looked to me as though he led w/ the elbow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites