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#41 Mabuhay Red Wings

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:33 PM

Think he'll ever play in these playoffs?

You know Babcock's whole "If you don't have confidence they can smell it a million miles away..."

Mikey doesn't sound too confident.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:34 PM

Modano hasn't been amazing, but he;s still a much better option than Miller. Dumb move IMO.


In Modano's interviews he gives off this vibe of not really caring or trying, focusing more on not having the passion anymore, he says (to summarize). I'd take that as a big alarm bell going into a grueling second season if I were Babcock. Talent or no, in the playoffs I'd rather have someone like Miller who will give his all and wreak havoc in the other team pressure-wise.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:34 PM

After those quotes, keep him out the whole way then. If the "mind and body" crap comes up then we really don't need him out there. Miller can bring it and has every time he has played.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:36 PM

Modano a healthy scratch?

Maybe we will see:

Hudler/Datsyuk/Holmstrom
Franzen/Filppula/Bertuzzi
Cleary/Abdelkader/Eaves
Draper/Helm/Miller.

Or even better...

Maybe we see a line of Hudler/Draper/Eaves, and they score a goal? If only Doan was on our team.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:36 PM

After those quotes, keep him out the whole way then. If the "mind and body" crap comes up then we really don't need him out there. Miller can bring it and has every time he has played.

There might be something to the fact that these quotes came after* he was scratched. He has always striked me as a little bit of a drama queen even though i still think he was one of the greatest players of all time.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:53 PM

There might be something to the fact that these quotes came after* he was scratched. He has always striked me as a little bit of a drama queen even though i still think he was one of the greatest players of all time.


Well, looking back, he's mentioned a few times about not being totally in it to win. He's always sounded a little like he wished he would have retired and was just going through the motions, plus the baggage from Dallas fans mentioning he had become lazy.

I don't know, it's a bust. He may have been a 3rd liner but we all hoped he would be that veteran we needed to win in the playoffs. He's no Dallas Drake, or even a Hossa, if he can't even justify being in the lineup.

Him being in the lineup all season has really hurt some of the line juggling, I think. The Wings didn't want to bench him because there wasn't as much on the line, we were hoping he'd kick into higher gear, and all the other things that go along with it. Maybe this will give Babcock the freedom to go with some really dynamic lines.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:56 PM

i dont even think modano wanted to even play this year. i think he was pressured into it by the wings brass and now he is regretting it.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 02:02 PM

If anyone thinks this is bad then they haven't really been watching Miller play of late. Pretty simple. This isn't Modano circa 1999 we are talking about here.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 02:48 PM

Gee all this talk about this series being chippy and Miller being tougher than Modano, but lets keep Cream Puff Hudler in the game.... Horrible horrible decision... This team is far better with Modano in and Hudler OUT!

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 02:51 PM

Gee all this talk about this series being chippy and Miller being tougher than Modano, but lets keep Cream Puff Hudler in the game.... Horrible horrible decision... This team is far better with Modano in and Hudler OUT!



So...your idea is to remove a soft, lazy player who scores in favor of a soft, lazy player who doesn't?
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 02:59 PM

So...your idea is to remove a soft, lazy player who scores in favor of a soft, lazy player who doesn't?

Modano at 40 is better than Hudler will ever be... besides, just when does Hudler score? IF Modano was healthy all year he would've outscored the cream puff...

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:08 PM

So...your idea is to remove a soft, lazy player who scores in favor of a soft, lazy player who doesn't?

The guy has an obsessive disliking of Hudler and brings him up in just about every thread he posts in. Kinda like an evil clone of eva unit zero. Just let him have his moments and nod and go ok and pretend to play along.

Edited by SouthernWingsFan, 13 April 2011 - 03:09 PM.


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Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:19 PM

I personally don't mind what he said. At the vvery bottom he says he would've regretted it if he hadn't tried and this is his final charge at another cup. It didn't work out like he planned, which sucks, but I get the impression he just wants to give it his all one last time. I think he should be in the lineup early in the series just to see if he can bring it, and if he can't, THEN you bench him.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:31 PM

Fine by me. Sentimentality is all well and good, but ultimately the only thing that matters is giving yourself the best chance at winning a game. At this point it's Miller that does that.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:43 PM

Gee all this talk about this series being chippy and Miller being tougher than Modano, but lets keep Cream Puff Hudler in the game.... Horrible horrible decision... This team is far better with Modano in and Hudler OUT!


Modano scored 15 points in 40 games; he scored 6 of those points in 7 games between Nov 3rd and Nov 17th.

By comparison, Hudler scored 6 points in his first 30 games, when this board near unanimously considered him the worst player under contract to the Wings.

He has since scored 31 points in 43 games. Before you start with the "But, Datsyuk!" stuff you should know that Hudler only played 11 games with Datsyuk.

Hudler has also outperformed Modano defensively.

Modano was brought to the team for his experience and to provide secondary scoring. The Wings have more than enough experience without him in the lineup, and as for the scoring? Modano would place tenth among Wings forwards based on his PPG across 82 games despite getting tons of PP time with the team's best scorers. Miller, Eaves, and Draper all had better seasons for goal scoring; which is sad because Modano's shot is the only real talent he has left aside from his speed.

At least when Maltby was basically forced into retirement, he wasn't sitting there and crying to the media about how he couldn't hack it.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:47 PM

And here we go...
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:50 PM

The guy has an obsessive disliking of Hudler and brings him up in just about every thread he posts in. Kinda like an evil clone of eva unit zero. Just let him have his moments and nod and go ok and pretend to play along.


Hey, don't even compare the two. LeftWinger would want to scratch Huds for Game four of the Finals, even if he had 45 goals in the playoffs on a Wings team that had gone 15-0, winning games on nothing but Hudler goals. I admit when he's not playing well, I just argue against the ridiculous hatred, and support the player and the positives I have seen from him.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:51 PM

The guy has an obsessive disliking of Hudler and brings him up in just about every thread he posts in. Kinda like an evil clone of eva unit zero. Just let him have his moments and nod and go ok and pretend to play along.

Yep...because Hudler is omnipotent not to mention he is also the best player in the world.

Honestly though, I'd have no issues with Hudler if he didn't handcuff the Wings that off season when he wanted WAAAAY too much money and pretty much made the Wings miss out on players that were not only better than Hudler, but signed for less than what he was asking for. So, if Hudler was around $800,000 to $1M I wouldn't be so hard on him, but since he demanded so much money, then bolted to the USSR, he should be playing up to what he felt he was worth. Yet, Helm has outplayed him all year long, it may not show in the stats, but Helm has been 100X more valuable to this team than Hudler has. Start playing up to what you are getting paid and maybe I would feel different. But it is gonna take alot to win me over from the way he screwed the Wings around when he was a FA.

Until then, this old bag of pucks in my garage will be more valuable than Hudler. I serously, SERIOUSLY hope he gets traded in the off-season or doesn't get re-signed after next year...

Edited by LeftWinger, 13 April 2011 - 04:01 PM.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:54 PM

Hey, don't even compare the two. LeftWinger would want to scratch Huds for Game four of the Finals, even if he had 45 goals in the playoffs on a Wings team that had gone 15-0, winning games on nothing but Hudler goals. I admit when he's not playing well, I just argue against the ridiculous hatred, and support the player and the positives I have seen from him.

Fair enough.

Yep...because Hudler is omnipotent not to mention he is also the best player in the world.

Stop with the woe is me card. You know you do it on here.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 04:01 PM

Miller > Modano right now.... Healthy discussion is nice but what's really all that hard to accept here?
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