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#941 Konnan511

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 09:35 AM

I have a lot of respect fir the Coyote organization. They put together a winning team and really tried to win unlike the Panthers and some sporadic teams in the league. I blame their fans. Much like the Tampa Bay Ray's fans who had a really good team the past many years, their fans just don't show up to support a winning team. In Winnipeg, it was the other way around. Good fan support but a bad team and city.
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 09:58 AM

I thought you guys would be happy to know that I can predict the future. This is what went down:

Beginning of the 2nd Period, Wings about to go on the PP
Me: Has Cleary scored yet this round?
Guy Next To Me: No, I don't think so.
Me: Hmm well I want him to score. I vote Dan Cleary gets the game winner.

Now, does someone want to remind me who ended up scoring the game winner late in the 3rd? ;)
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:01 AM

Good job Wings but for the love of god work on the PK during this down time. The deeper we go the more special teams come into play.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:05 AM

For Babs postgame, click here Funny how its on the Coyotes website and not the Wings.

That is a little strange.

I ended up watching a lot of the postgame interviews with the Yotes players. Aside from the disappointment of losing the game, it was also really clear how screwed up it must have been to try to play for this team with all the drama that's going on off the ice. If the team is moving, ownership problems, etc. I know we give the Phoenix fans a hard time, but it really must suck for the fans there who do root for that team and want them to stay.

Also, I know I'd probably love him if he were a Wing, but Doan has always pissed me off. But hearing him in the post game interview, he seems like a pretty class act off the ice.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:11 AM

This series once again begging the question: If Shane Doan Steve Yzerman is such an incredible captain and leader, how come Phoenix/Winnipeg Detroit can't get out of the first round?

Funny, the same things were said about Steve Yzerman prior to 1995. The difference is, the dedication of (or lack of in Phoenix's case) ownership and lack of hiring the right people to run your organization. Plus that whole Gretzky as a coach thing will haunt this organization forever....

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:17 AM

Now, does someone want to remind me who ended up scoring the game winner late in the 3rd? ;)

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:24 AM

That is a little strange.

I ended up watching a lot of the postgame interviews with the Yotes players. Aside from the disappointment of losing the game, it was also really clear how screwed up it must have been to try to play for this team with all the drama that's going on off the ice. If the team is moving, ownership problems, etc. I know we give the Phoenix fans a hard time, but it really must suck for the fans there who do root for that team and want them to stay.

Also, I know I'd probably love him if he were a Wing, but Doan has always pissed me off. But hearing him in the post game interview, he seems like a pretty class act off the ice.


The only reason i wouldn't want Doan, is because he could cost you a game or two with his undisciplined play. One or two games in the new NHL could potentially have season ending consequences. If he were able to control his temper and idiocy, then I would welcome him with open arms :)

But I completely agree with those interviews. it really must suck being a Yote', having a successful team, and have empty seats.
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:27 AM

I'm so happy for our team & I am extremely confident that they can bring another stanley cup back home.

But honestly, this video really made me feel bad for the Yotes, especially Doan :/ It must be a really tough feeling going through what their team is struggling with. I can respect them

http://video.coyotes...id=-6&id=110078

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:41 AM

Congratulations Detroit Red Wings and all Wings fan's !! Helm is god !!

Helm, right now, is one of the most valuable Wings. He is more important to this team than most, if not everyone not named Lidstrom/Datsyuk/Zetterberg. There in lies the problem. After next season, he will be an RFA, he will easily, EASILY get more than Filppula, Hudler or Cleary. If he continues his playoff magic this season and throughout next, he will be in the $3.5M - $4M... More Cap, More Problems... He is well worth the money! When Lids retires, Helm could easily be the next Alternate Captain. If Lids stays a couple more seasons, he could easily become the next Captain, even ahead of Zetterberg...

He was just as shaky all season long. People here were just focusing on things like Howard's poor play, Hudler's slump, Datsyuk's injury, etc. and so Stuart slipped under the radar. But now most of the team is playing very well, so he doesn't look so solid anymore.

Well, maybe, in the off season, Holland could package Stuart/Hudler for a trade to LA for Jack Johnson....

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:44 AM

Helm, right now, is one of the most valuable Wings. He is more important to this team than most, if not everyone not named Lidstrom/Datsyuk/Zetterberg. There in lies the problem. After next season, he will be an RFA, he will easily, EASILY get more than Filppula, Hudler or Cleary. If he continues his playoff magic this season and throughout next, he will be in the $3.5M - $4M... More Cap, More Problems... He is well worth the money! When Lids retires, Helm could easily be the next Alternate Captain. If Lids stays a couple more seasons, he could easily become the next Captain, even ahead of Zetterberg...


Well, maybe, in the off season, Holland could package Stuart/Hudler for a trade to LA for Jack Johnson....


Wait..what? Helm will not get anywhere near that. he might hit 2.5 at most, but I'm guessing he gets around 2mil at most.
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:47 AM

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Ah yes. I thought so... :P
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:56 AM

Considering I was worried that we'd have a hard time making it out of the 1st round, given how we were playing the last half of the regular season, sweeping our 1st round opponent is a very nice surprise. I didn't expect us to play this well, even though I knew we had the talent to pull it off. I thought our injury issues and underperformance problems would get the better of us, even it if wasn't deserved.

Never felt so good to be wrong. :thumbup:

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 11:22 AM

Wait..what? Helm will not get anywhere near that. he might hit 2.5 at most, but I'm guessing he gets around 2mil at most.

Well, I am just going by his value to this team. I understand what you are saying, and I am sure he is not going to hold out or go to arbitration (cough Hudler cough cough) so ya, he probably will take a contract around $2M-$2.5M because it would be such a huge raise for him, but he is outplaying a lot of players that are making a lot more money...

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 11:28 AM

He was just as shaky all season long. People here were just focusing on things like Howard's poor play, Hudler's slump, Datsyuk's injury, etc. and so Stuart slipped under the radar. But now most of the team is playing very well, so he doesn't look so solid anymore.


You never give Stu any credit regardless. He's just a very steady d-man; I don't know what more people expect from him. He isn't flashy, but he's physical and incredibly reliable in his own zone. I don't think Stuart's play dropped off at all in this series - he was still strong, but Kronwall and Salei just ramped up their play a ton from the regular season. I don't see that as a flaw in Stuart, it just means the other guys weren't playing up to their potential. I don't know where you are coming up with Stuart isn't "solid". He had one rough night in game 7 in 2009, but beyond that he has been our most consistent d-man since he came here not named Lidstrom.

Somewhat related note, but if we didn't have a guy named Pavel Datsyuk, Niklas Kronwall was the MVP of this series. Best Kronner has looked since the 2008 playoffs.
 
 
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:04 PM

I don't feel bad for Yotes fans because they didn't come out and support the team, now they could lose the team and they realize it. Should have went to games the last few years, should have got season tickets, compared to Detroit and all the Canadian markets the tickets are dirt cheap too. They are crying now but where were they before?

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:14 PM

I was able to listen to the game via my sling player on my ipod while working. So I didn't see much of it. How did Modano look out there? Was he hungry, physical and energetic?
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:29 PM

Helm, right now, is one of the most valuable Wings. He is more important to this team than most, if not everyone not named Lidstrom/Datsyuk/Zetterberg. There in lies the problem. After next season, he will be an RFA, he will easily, EASILY get more than Filppula, Hudler or Cleary. If he continues his playoff magic this season and throughout next, he will be in the $3.5M - $4M... More Cap, More Problems... He is well worth the money! When Lids retires, Helm could easily be the next Alternate Captain. If Lids stays a couple more seasons, he could easily become the next Captain, even ahead of Zetterberg...


Well, maybe, in the off season, Holland could package Stuart/Hudler for a trade to LA for Jack Johnson....



I doubt he's going to get more than Cleary and Filppula. Sure, he's great, and one of the best players on the team, but he's not a second liner yet and shouldn't be paid like one.
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:34 PM

I was able to listen to the game via my sling player on my ipod while working. So I didn't see much of it. How did Modano look out there? Was he hungry, physical and energetic?


He looked very energized. He still shoots too far away form the net, but he directly lead to the first goal of the game by taking a defender out of the play by driving the net.
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:35 PM

Well, maybe, in the off season, Holland could package Stuart/Hudler for a trade to LA for Jack Johnson....

You're kidding, right?

Hudler, maybe but Stuie better not go anywhere. Johnson is solid but let's not go crazy.
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:42 PM

Gotta give Howard some credit too. He was a steady goalie. He didn't need to come up with game saving stops all the time, but he did have to play solid which he did. I was watching some of the goals he allowed and I can count one softie he probably should have had. The rest were deflections, uncovered players on the other side of the net, and so on. If the defense plays this well and the goaltending is solid, then the Wings are going to go far. Especially considering 13 different players scored in this series. Talk about depth!

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