Nashville vs. Vancouver

[VM1138 1,921]

Wings better keep the pressure up so the series doesn't end tomorrow like Nashville, I just hope they can outwork the Sharks and win.

[Osgood=WIN! 0]

Too bad Vancouver won. Now I have to listen to the "Only Canadian team left in the playffs" bandwagoners for at least another round.

[10 Minute Misconduct 104]

Canucks will be done next round, no worries. Kesler's driving the bus, not too many other people are doing anything.

[puckbags 863]

The 3rd period of that game was about as exciting as watching invisible people f*** which was really good for Vancouver but bad for anyone else on earth who was looking for some entertainment.

[Guest ToMaToToWnWinGsFaN_24]

seeing carrie underwood cry was my highlight of the evening!

[jeff48109 474]

The 3rd period of that game was about as exciting as watching invisible people f*** which was really good for Vancouver but bad for anyone else on earth who was looking for some entertainment.

have to say im glad nashville is out because they have no offensive imagination and would have made the conference finals boring. it seems their goals against vancouver were either shorthanded or fluky bounces off luongo.

[Bertmondi 19]

Its incredibly obvious, isn't it?

I've heard them makes jokes pointed directly at the Predators inferiority, say that the Preds may never make the second round again, and tonight they said something to the effect of Vancouver needs to stop beating themselves (as if the Preds couldn't be good enough to actually outplay them).

It burns me up. CBC is blatently pro Canadian teams, and to a degree, thats fine. They are a National station though. NBC and Versus may like the Hawks or Penguins a lot but they don't act like its because the Cup belongs in the US. It's always been a little annoying but since Vancouver has become the favorite to win the Cup its got out of control. Suddenly Vancouver is the envy of the league and they only lose because of some uncontrollable cosmic anomaly. The thing is, Nashville is really working hard and playing great, give credit where credit is due.

Currently I only have about 14 channels, 3 without sound. So we've been watching enough CBC to have me nearly more informed on Canadian politics than our own. We've watched almost the whole playoffs on CBC broadcasts and I've seen almost all of Vancouver's games so far, so I'm not thrilled about listening to the entire panel drone over the Nucks with near palpable man love the majority of the time.

Without trying offend, you guys simply don't understand.

The CBC stands for Canadian Broadcast Corporation.

CBC is going to be pro-Canadian. They are not a private corporation, they are actually funded by the Canadian government. So it is substantially different when the CBC broadcasts a game involving a Canadian team than anything that occurs in the United States. NBC has corporate masters and are not funded directly by the American people.

Further, while you may not see the bias, it is overtly apparent in any and all American coverage of anything that is American. Americans are not ashamed of it, and nor should they be. But for Americans to call out the CBC for being biased is a little unfair in my view. The CBC's market is Canadians. They don't consider American viewers and frankly, why should they? The CBC has nothing to do with the United States. Just as it is the case that the Canucks have never appeared on Sunday NBC hockey there is no reason for the CBC to cover American teams equally to Canadian (though oftentimes they do).

Another thing you all may or may not know is that Jim Hughson is a Vancouverite. He used to cover the Canucks locally as our play-by-play man for the radio station that used to carry Canuck games. He took over in 1995 after the Cup finals. So when Jim is at the mic oftentimes his bias seeps through. Though I think he does a reasonable job of remaning fair and balanced. And further, if you watch a Red Wings game on CBC (which I've watched many) you hear endless praise heaped on the organization, the players (past and present), the culture, the style of play, the tradition...etc. In fact, I think the Wings get the most love out of any non-Canadian franchise on the CBC (and on TSN / Rogers Sportsnet).

Further, it has become something of a national crisis in Canada that a Canadian-based team hasn't won the cup since 1993. Whether you guys understand it or not, Canadians view hockey as our game. We take it very seriously and it is seen as a tragedy that markets like Anaheim, Carolina, Tampa Bay and Dallas have won Cups with relatively young NHL franchises and with fan bases that don't really understand what takes to win the cup. Even Colorado could be included in that group.

So you all of 4 cups in 13 years (is that right???) should understand that the CBC, like most Canadians just want to see the Cup come home, to where (they/we) feel it belongs. Even if it is just once every 17 years. And truly Wings fans, we're all just jealous of you. I mean that. Wings are a model of consistency and success. No need to sweat the small stuff.

Edited May 10, 2011 by Bertmondi

[Guest Heaten]

Canucks only have one guy putting up the points.. the same guy that was a no-show in the Chicago series. Their elite players have been sub-par at best...

[Death Warrant 0]

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Edited May 10, 2011 by Death Warrant

[achildr1 255]

Without trying offend, you guys simply don't understand.

The CBC stands for Canadian Broadcast Corporation.

CBC is going to be pro-Canadian. They are not a private corporation, they are actually funded by the Canadian government. So it is substantially different when the CBC broadcasts a game involving a Canadian team than anything that occurs in the United States. NBC has corporate masters and are not funded directly by the American people.

Further, while you may not see the bias, it is overtly apparent in any and all American coverage of anything that is American. Americans are not ashamed of it, and nor should they be. But for Americans to call out the CBC for being biased is a little unfair in my view. The CBC's market is Canadians. They don't consider American viewers and frankly, why should they? The CBC has nothing to do with the United States. Just as it is the case that the Canucks have never appeared on Sunday NBC hockey there is no reason for the CBC to cover American teams equally to Canadian (though oftentimes they do).

Another thing you all may or may not know is that Jim Hughson is a Vancouverite. He used to cover the Canucks locally as our play-by-play man for the radio station that used to carry Canuck games. He took over in 1995 after the Cup finals. So when Jim is at the mic oftentimes his bias seeps through. Though I think he does a reasonable job of remaning fair and balanced. And further, if you watch a Red Wings game on CBC (which I've watched many) you hear endless praise heaped on the organization, the players (past and present), the culture, the style of play, the tradition...etc. In fact, I think the Wings get the most love out of any non-Canadian franchise on the CBC (and on TSN / Rogers Sportsnet).

Further, it has become something of a national crisis in Canada that a Canadian-based team hasn't won the cup since 1993. Whether you guys understand it or not, Canadians view hockey as our game. We take it very seriously and it is seen as a tragedy that markets like Anaheim, Carolina, Tampa Bay and Dallas have won Cups with relatively young NHL franchises and with fan bases that don't really understand what takes to win the cup. Even Colorado could be included in that group.

So you all of 4 cups in 13 years (is that right???) should understand that the CBC, like most Canadians just want to see the Cup come home, to where (they/we) feel it belongs. Even if it is just once every 17 years. And truly Wings fans, we're all just jealous of you. I mean that. Wings are a model of consistency and success. No need to sweat the small stuff.

I love CBC. Furthermore, I love tsn.ca. For TV and internet, hockey coverage doesnt really get better than through those mediums. Canadians know the game, except most Toronto fans (their rabid, foaming at the mouth, drone/cult-like man love over their slightly-better-than-the-Marlies franchise every year blinds them to obvious hockey rational leading to fans to think JS Giguere could land them Evgeni Malkin, the rights to Mario Lemieux, and 43% stock in the Stanley Cup.) Regardless, I love their love of the game and the dedication to presenting it for the beautiful game that it is.

My issue is with Canadian arrogance over it. Read the comments on tsn.ca one time, for kicks. A huge number of Canadians are sports version of Quebec, they basically just want to break the Canadian teams away from the rest and do their own thing. Besides the Wings, Bruins, and Crosby's Pens (what would Canada do without there Brad Pitt/Wayne Gretzky/Jesse Owens mutant?) it seems the rest of American teams can go fly a kite and just make the AHL a 51 team farm system for Canada's 9 team League of Extraordinary Canadians...Annoying.

Edited May 10, 2011 by achildr1

[edicius 3,269]

I gotta give an honest congrats to the Preds for a great run. If they can get some offensive firepower on their roster, they'll only continue to improve.

[Chairman Maouth 97]

My issue is with Canadian arrogance over it. Read the comments on tsn.ca one time, for kicks. A huge number of Canadians are sports version of Quebec, they basically just want to break the Canadian teams away from the rest and do their own thing. Besides the Wings, Bruins, and Crosby's Pens (what would Canada do without there Brad Pitt/Wayne Gretzky/Jesse Owens mutant?) it seems the rest of American teams can go fly a kite and just make the AHL a 51 team farm system for Canada's 9 team League of Extraordinary Canadians...Annoying.

In all honesty, that's an impression I've never seen taken to that extreme before. The arrogance part is true and comes with the territory, but the rest I don't agree with at all. I think you're taking the frustration of Canadians having to see struggling teams in Atlanta and Phoenix when those teams could be supported in Canada and really exaggerating the Canadian mindset. The vast majority of us simply want the best for the NHL as a whole; to see as many as full buildings and well-supported franchises as possible. You think we only care about and/or respect three American teams? Totally untrue. Again, a strong NHL is important. The location of the franchise is secondary in my opinion and this is not a Canada vs. America thing and never has been.

For example, how could anyone not be impressed with Nashville fans after last night's game? The whackos were cheering "Go Preds go" after they were eliminated for God's sakes. They were freaking fantastic and deserve that team and better. And no, I do not believe I am in the minority of Canadians here.

[achildr1 255]

I gotta give an honest congrats to the Preds for a great run. If they can get some offensive firepower on their roster, they'll only continue to improve.

I second that, they work so hard. I know a lot of people say they play boring hockey but I was impressed with their effort.

[achildr1 255]

In all honesty, that's an impression I've never seen taken to that extreme before. The arrogance part is true and comes with the territory, but the rest I don't agree with at all. I think you're taking the frustration of Canadians having to see struggling teams in Atlanta and Phoenix when those teams could be supported in Canada and really exaggerating the Canadian mindset. The vast majority of us simply want the best for the NHL as a whole; to see as many as full buildings and well-supported franchises as possible. You think we only care about and/or respect three American teams? Totally untrue. Again, a strong NHL is important. The location of the franchise is secondary in my opinion and this is not a Canada vs. America thing and never has been.

For example, how could anyone not be impressed with Nashville fans after last night's game? The whackos were cheering "Go Preds go" after they were eliminated for God's sakes. They were freaking fantastic and deserve that team and better. And no, I do not believe I am in the minority of Canadians here.

Ill give you that was exaggerated, but not much in my mind, and really only for the humour of it. I have seen things written by Canadians to support that view, maybe not as extreme as I made it sound, but very much the same sort of concept. I believe and have seen a lot of Canadians quickly and easily throw (or have thrown recently) FLA, TB, PHO, ATL, PIT and even DAL under the bus. The pretense being how stupid Bettman can be for putting the team there, blah blah blah, the don't sell tickets and are struggling, they should go back to the promised land of hockey lore! And alot of it is true. At the same time though, Edmonton is failing miserably and isnt to far from possibly having to leave but I don't see Canadians lining up the firing squad to move them to a "better" market, which would likely be in the States. It doesn't seem like the betterment of hockey to me but the betterment of Canada. Winnepeg, if it weren't in Canada would almost certainly be condemned by Canadians as a destination because the market looks much like Nashville, minus the country music capital draw (which apparently is working out well for them). The truth is, the NHL doesn't need another cap floor type spender, but since its Canada, its ok. Even I'm excited to see a team go from somewhere it isn't loved to somewhere it is, but that doesn't mean the business side is going to work and be good for the NHL. This attitude is very prevalent, I see it all the time.