edicius 3,269 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Trotz deserves it. Bylsma will probably take it. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Maybe one day, Babcock will take a team to a first round defeat after getting a 3-1 series lead and deserve the Adams. 8 asoras, redwingfan19, Detroit \# 1 Fan and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) No s***, how the hell is Bylsma in there? Because he kept his team somewhat afloat while poster boy and his girlfriend were out with injuries? That s*** happens to the Wings every year. esteef Edited April 29, 2011 by esteef 3 Hockeymom1960, Nev and stuck in socal reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Hopefully Bowling Ball gets it. Definitely deserved after all these years in the Preds organization. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) Vigneault? really? Isn't it 'the stacked team he coaches' the reason Babcock never gets consideration? Because this year I could easily argue that the Nucks could have been coached by anyone and they would have landed in the same position. Trotz as always deserves it though, hes given a team on a low budget and he always gets them into the playoff conversation, hes the only person outside of Detroit I would want to see lift the cup. Edited April 29, 2011 by Shaman464 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquire 324 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Trotz finally get one this year. Calling it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Trotz finally get one this year. Calling it. No he won't, media loves Vancouver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) Trotz finally get one this year. Calling it. I really hope so, he's the only one of the 3 that even deserved a nomination... Byslma is a good coach and had a good year, key word - good. Even regardless of the injuries he did nothing special this year, or exceptional, which is what this award is supposed to represent. Vigneault, I actually thought did a great job, but for the same reason Babs gets repeatedly snubbed, is the same reason Vigneault didn't deserve a nomination - To whom much is given, much is expected... they had a stacked team and all he had to do was basically organize practices and show up... once again, nothing exceptional there... The fact that Babcock got snubbed again is such a freaking joke... this years nominees should have been: Trotz Babcock Boudreau yes, I know Boudreau seems like an odd nomination, since he's kinda been a joke in the past, but the way he got that team to commit to defense this year deserves recognition, couple that with the strong play all season and the obvious difference in focus in these playoffs and regardless of how you feel about the butterball, he deserved it... Honorable mention (guys that maybe didn't deserve it as much, but still more than Byslma and Vigneault): Guy Boucher Dave Tippett Claude Julien with ALL of that said, even if Babs had been nominated, I still think Trotz deserves it this year. Edited April 29, 2011 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Bylsma. Based on regular season play, it's amazing the Pens did as well as they did without Malkin and Crosby. Trotz deserves one, but he didn't do anything he doesn't do every season, and Vigneault had all the firepower to work with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstarsingh 23 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Why is Guy Boucher not on this list? Vigneault...I suppose he 'coached' through the loss of his entire defenseive core. Barry Trotz deserves this. He HAS deserved one for quite some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mabuhay Red Wings 177 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Should be Trotz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 I've said for a while that if Bylsma deserves the Jack Adams because of injuries, so does Babcock. Simple as that. Bylsma coached the Pens to a good season without Crybaby and Geno for much of it, but if they award him the Jack Adams, they're basically saying that the rest of the team is garbage outside those two. Look at all the injuries the Wings dealt with last season and they actually finished the season one point AHEAD of the Pens. No buzz for Babcock then. Bylsma's a great coach, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't deserve it this season, no way. Trotz all the way. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 I've said for a while that if Bylsma deserves the Jack Adams because of injuries, so does Babcock. Simple as that. Bylsma coached the Pens to a good season without Crybaby and Geno for much of it, but if they award him the Jack Adams, they're basically saying that the rest of the team is garbage outside those two. Look at all the injuries the Wings dealt with last season and they actually finished the season one point AHEAD of the Pens. No buzz for Babcock then. Bylsma's a great coach, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't deserve it this season, no way. Trotz all the way. But they HAVE to give Pitt something right? You can't have awards being given without the f***in' Penguins in the conversation. I mean Crosby ain't winning s*** this year and neither is the rest of the team. Might as well float them a good coaching award whether they deserve it or not. Sorry Trotz, I was pulling for ya! esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 I like this comment from one of the columns: "Shouldn't Byslma be somehow penalized for not being able to control Matt Cooke?" Tru dat! esteef 4 wings1110, Zeowingsfan, Mabuhay Red Wings and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 babcock doesnt deserve it imo. in many points during the regular season (this is a regular season award folks) the wings could have done wayy better than they did, and didnt look motivated. Dont get me wrong babcock is a great coach and wouldnt be suprised to see him coach us for the rest of his career, but this year i just dont think he deserves it.....now last year i think he def did with that run at the end of the season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquire 324 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 No he won't, media loves Vancouver. The media loves Vancouver, which is why he got the nomination, that doesn't mean he's hands down to win it. If Vigneault wins, it will be against all the reasons why Babs HASN'T won it IMHO. Trotz has been up too many times not to win it now. Bylsma. Based on regular season play, it's amazing the Pens did as well as they did without Malkin and Crosby. Trotz deserves one, but he didn't do anything he doesn't do every season, and Vigneault had all the firepower to work with. Just because you perform miracles every season and nobody recognizes it, doesn't make it less of a miracle. In fact, his peers have already named him Coach of the Year in 06-07 in The Sporting News. Trotz works with nothing while Bylsma had the cushion of that 12 game winning streak to help after Crosby and Malkin went down. Also, Trotz has done this in the West year after year against teams with far more talent and facing heavier travel. If it wasn't for Trotz, I think the Preds would be in the relocation discussions at the very least. The time has come for the NHL to recognize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mabuhay Red Wings 177 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 "Shouldn't Byslma be somehow penalized for not being able to control Matt Cooke?" This times a million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 My main question is "how the f**k is Boucher not a finalist?" Seriously, the guy takes Tampa Bay from a pretty awful team and makes them into a Cup contender and gets less credit than Bylsma? Awful voting, but then again, I could probably say that about every award. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted April 29, 2011 I like this comment from one of the columns: "Shouldn't Byslma be somehow penalized for not being able to control Matt Cooke?" Tru dat! esteef An average of 16.9 penalty minutes per game Matt Cooke suspended 14 games this season, PLUS the first round of playoffs. Eric Godard suspended 10 games this season 1388 PIM second only to the NYI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Vigneault should win this award because, not unlike Mr. Adams, his prowess as a head coach is somewhat overrated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuck in socal 56 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Give it to the Tricerotrotz. 1 stevkrause reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) I'm ok with either Trotz or Bylsma winning it. Trotz is a miracle worker and Dan did an unbelievable job managing a Pittsburgh team full of nobodys. They had nearly the se record without Crosby as they did with him. Stop drinking the LGW haterade. Edit: Babcock should have won it last year with the miracle he pulled off. Edited April 29, 2011 by Konnan511 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) I'm ok with either Trotz or Bylsma winning it. Trotz is a miracle worker and Dan did an unbelievable job managing a Pittsburgh team full of nobodys. They had nearly the se record without Crosby as they did with him. Stop drinking the LGW haterade. Edit: Babcock should have won it last year with the miracle he pulled off. As I said in my post, Byslma did a good job this year, but name me a single coach on the list I posted that he deserved the nomination for more? especially with the standard that had been set with coaches not getting nods based on injuries (ie. Babcock, Jacques Martin and Peter Laviolette all dealt with that last year, yet none of them got nods...) Babcock, Boudreau, Boucher, Tippet and Julien all did more and made a bigger impact... also, as I said in my original post, I still think Trotz deserves it this year, regardless of who is/was nominated Edited April 29, 2011 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) More so than any other award, playoffs should factor into the Jack Adams. When asked who the best coaches in the NHL are, Babcock is going to be right up at the top of everyone's list, but it is the playoffs where he really differentiates himself (and all good coaches). The fact the greatest coach of all-time only has 2 Adams, and the best in the league currently has never even been nominated just means it is really a bull s*** award and about as meaningful or relevant as the Messier award. The Adams should be voted on at the same time as the Conn Smythe, and regular season and playoffs should factor in. Edited April 29, 2011 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted April 29, 2011 I'm ok with either Trotz or Bylsma winning it. Trotz is a miracle worker and Dan did an unbelievable job managing a Pittsburgh team full of nobodys. They had nearly the se record without Crosby as they did with him. Stop drinking the LGW haterade. Edit: Babcock should have won it last year with the miracle he pulled off. My question is... Why is Crosby being out (for half the season, not all of it) somehow has made Bylsma a better coach in people's opinion? This "missing player" who somehow still ranked 18th overall in goals scored? In a league, that thanks to the cap, is so close that 8 games decide between first in the east or out of the playoffs? Do we not live in the cap era where he gets the benefit LTIR cap relief? I personally see him as someone who was largely handed a championship level team 3 years ago, and has rode it out. I don't see him as having done anything spectacular with the loss of 2 players (we've had half our team injured at periods during the last 2 seasons). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
