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#21 Shoreline

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:31 AM

No, actually this stat line says it all for this game.

Sure, it does if you didn't watch the game. The Sharks had shots that were on net, a lot of them, and a lot more than the Red Wings. So what? Howard was stellar. The Sharks dominated the Wings in offensive zone time. Great for them. However, it was in fact bulls*** calls that led to the goals they scored. The Red Wings did a fine job of keeping it out of the net even strength. I don't care if the Sharks had 20 shots or 95 shots. Shots only tells the story from those who would judge a game by the box score.

The Red Wings do have some changes to make, like reducing turnovers, not making so many bad stretch passes, and so on. However, there's no way of prepping for dumbass refs to make s***ty calls.

Edited by Shoreline, 30 April 2011 - 12:31 AM.


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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:32 AM

While I agree with you that the wings didn't get enough offense going, I disagree with how you disregarded the dives. The dives have nothing to do with red wing offense. They do however, have something to do with putting the sharks on fake power plays and having increased chances at scoring goals, and oh they tied it on one of those bulls*** powerplays.

So, while I do agree the wings need to pick it up, the fans have every right to ***** about diving and bad calls. Sorry.



I am going to disregard them because they are out of our control. If it was an even game, then I may point out of dive or two. But when we play two periods like we did, I would be very embarrassed to even bring it up.

We did not take care of our own business. We got severely outplayed in the 2nd, and got beat badly in the third.
The OT PK was a thing of beauty for 3:55, then not clearing it and getting fresh legs out there cost the game. But at fortyf***ingsix shots on goal, it was just a matter of time before one fluked it's way past Jimmy.

It was an embarrassing 40 minutes of playoff hockey by us, and you guys are worried about dives? We have much bigger things to worry about than that.

You guys are worse than Canuck and Pittsburgh fans. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

Edited by T.Low, 30 April 2011 - 12:39 AM.


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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:34 AM

Wow, who needs talented players when all you need are actors and ignorant refs! Those were some weak penalty calls. I will also agree that the wings did not bring their A game in the second/third/OT periods. It probably doesn't help that our own defenseman redirected the winning shot!
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:37 AM

While there were some really weak calls throughout, they out shot us, and for a big part of the game, outplayed us in every way.

Honestly, Howard's penalty should have given them a power play. Pavelski was acting like a jerk, but he did not break a rule by sending the ice spray into Jimmy's face.

The Bertuzzi 'Boarding' call was weak, and the high sticking should have only been 2 minutes. That was a classic wrestling move, cut yourself open to show the blood.


Except for his retaliation on another Wings player after the shove from Howard <_<
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:42 AM

Except for his retaliation on another Wings player after the shove from Howard <_<


Howard would have gotten the call for instigating the whole thing. After that, it was just a after-whistle scrum.

We played very poorly, and although the refs gift-wrapped the tying goal, we need to be better in game two.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:43 AM

Except for his retaliation on another Wings player after the shove from Howard <_<


Lol so it wasn't just the homer shark announcers that didn't see divelski punch filppula In the face (they actually had the balls to say that he got a penalty for spraying ice at howard....)This guy didn't either.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:50 AM

Lol so it wasn't just the homer shark announcers that didn't see divelski punch filppula In the face (they actually had the balls to say that he got a penalty for spraying ice at howard....)This guy didn't either.


Ya popped Flip in the face twice.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:50 AM

The only reason why this Sharks team won.

5 straight Power Plays helps win a goddam game. Sooner or later they are going to score.

Whether or not the team played bad in the 1st or 2nd period. Your goalie always has to steal you a game.

This was the one when HOWARD should have. He played great. Best as a WING imo. :clap:

Sharks never stuck a WING the 2nd period on. BS.

Nothing worse is when a REF has to take over a game.

Pathetic offiating.
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#29 T.Low

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:53 AM

When the wind is taken out of your sails with bulls*** dives and then bulls*** calls all night...what exactly did you expect?


Make sure you take a fresh box of tissues with you to bed tonite, sweetheart.

I expect Kronwall to get off his lazy ass and move his feet instead of coasting in and getting totally outworked by Pavelski. Thats what i expect. Pavelski was willing to bust his ass to make the play; Kronwall wasn't. That was symptomatic of too much of the game.

I expect them to have learned from last year that you don't win Stanley Cups by letting the wind get taken out of your sails by little men with whistles and diving divas.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:56 AM

Lol so it wasn't just the homer shark announcers that didn't see divelski punch filppula In the face (they actually had the balls to say that he got a penalty for spraying ice at howard....)This guy didn't either.


The Sharks announcers are the WORST! You're right.

The stupid refs threw that game. That's all there is to it.

Anybody can say what they want about the shots being too high, the Wings being outplayed, and blah blah blah. Anyone who says that clearly hasn't watched the Wings for the past 10 years and seen them face Western conference goalies standing on their heads (Giguere) as the Wings put 40-50 shots on goal and only score once. The fact is that this game was Howard's and he was "STEALING" a game for the Wings. The refs took it away from him, not the Sharks.

THE REAL DIFFERENCE is that thef****** WHISTLE is supposed to be put away for the 3rd period and overtime, and only reserved for the most severe of penalties. There is clearly a different referee mindset when the Wings play the Sharks. The refs are looking to blow the whistle. It's af****** joke.

The only reason why this Sharks team won.

5 straight Power Plays helps win a goddam game. Sooner or later they are going to score.

Whether or not the team played bad in the 1st or 2nd period. Your goalie always has to steal you a game.

This was the one when HOWARD should have. He played great. Best as a WING imo. :clap:

Sharks never stuck a WING the 2nd period on. BS.

Nothing worse is when a REF has to take over a game.

Pathetic offiating.


You beat me to it. Exactly my point. No matter how bad the Wings were playing, Howard was keeping them ahead. Then the officials turned the tide. NOT the Sharks.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:58 AM

Make sure you take a fresh box of tissues with you to bed tonite, sweetheart.

I expect Kronwall to get off his lazy ass and move his feet instead of coasting in and getting totally outworked by Pavelski. Thats what i expect. Pavelski was willing to bust his ass to make the play; Kronwall wasn't. That was symptomatic of too much of the game.

I expect them to have learned from last year that you don't win Stanley Cups by letting the wind get taken out of your sails by little men with whistles and diving divas.

Good post. Unfortunately, Ericsson, Kronwall, and Salei preferred to take tickets and act as turnstiles to actually moving their feet and using actual good position.

If that kind of crap keeps up, not even Howard/Datsyuk coming up clutch as hell can win us the series.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 01:08 AM

Make sure you take a fresh box of tissues with you to bed tonite, sweetheart.

I expect Kronwall to get off his lazy ass and move his feet instead of coasting in and getting totally outworked by Pavelski. Thats what i expect. Pavelski was willing to bust his ass to make the play; Kronwall wasn't. That was symptomatic of too much of the game.

I expect them to have learned from last year that you don't win Stanley Cups by letting the wind get taken out of your sails by little men with whistles and diving divas.



Nice retort :rolleyes:

Even gave you a +1 for the rest of your post..too bad you couldn't leave the initial part out.
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#33 Konnan511

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 01:18 AM

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 01:25 AM

Nice retort :rolleyes:

Even gave you a +1 for the rest of your post..too bad you couldn't leave the initial part out.



Well, you sounded like you were getting a little emotional. :rolleyes:

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 01:45 AM

Meh, the power plays against didn't matter, the team couldn't do s*** at even strength, for the last 40mins of the game. Need to find a way to fix that or I suspect this will be a short series...

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 01:56 AM

I didn't realize I was watching La Liga? Is that Cristiano Ronaldo out there on skates? Is it the summer Olympics? give this guy a gold medal, 10's from me. Perfect dive. Beautiful.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 02:07 AM

Meh, the power plays against didn't matter, the team couldn't do s*** at even strength, for the last 40mins of the game. Need to find a way to fix that or I suspect this will be a short series...

Yeah, getting pinned in your own end, finally clearing, dumping the puck and getting very little in the way of forechecking pressure doesn't exactly make for a great offensive game. The first line was getting chances all night and Helm was creating out there for the fourth line, but otherwise it was a rough game most of the night.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 02:29 AM

cheaters dont win in the end

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 02:33 AM

While there were some really weak calls throughout, they out shot us, and for a big part of the game, outplayed us in every way.

Honestly, Howard's penalty should have given them a power play. Pavelski was acting like a jerk, but he did not break a rule by sending the ice spray into Jimmy's face.

The Bertuzzi 'Boarding' call was weak, and the high sticking should have only been 2 minutes. That was a classic wrestling move, cut yourself open to show the blood.



That is a penalty in any league I played or watched. "Unsportsmanlike conduct", I have seen a decline in this call over the last 5 years. It was the correct call by ref.

I was wondering were the hooking calls that were called all year went? I was also getting upset at how a couple of times SJ tried to hack at dats wrists behind the play.

take the 15 shots they got on the poer play and the shots are alot closer. How many of the shots cam from the top of the circle with litte to no traffic. Its not hard to out shoot a team.

You could tell Franzen had either too much tape on the ankle or he is not at 100% and I ve a bert fan since we got him, but he had an off night.

put it behind us and we need to get Drapes in to get under the skin of the sharks.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 04:24 AM

Long time poster, mostly a viewer now.

Sure, whatever, refs called it poorly. Sure, whatever.

You lose a game 2-1, refs or not, it happened.

It's not like Detroit was up 4-1 and they came back on penalties. I agree, the reffing in this game was piss poor, but fact remains:

We played like s*** for the 2nd and 3rd periods.

Reffing piss poor or not, SJ deserved to win this game.

As a very non-baised hockey fan (Admittedly, I do root Detroit), SJ was a slightly better team tonight.

I admit, Detroit lost a HELL of a lot of momentum being penalized all the time. I firmly also believe the referee's are in on the conspiracy, to make every series last as long as possible.

Uh, half the series went to magically game 7 first round, and half the series went to OT in the second round.

A lot of strange referee action across the league. But if you think Detroit is getting screwed, you should have watched the Vancouver/Chicago series. I have never seen EVER more horrible reffing than that series, for games 4-6. It was so biased and theatrical, I almost became a Vancouver fan, just to see them overcome it.

Yes...the refs are bais, and have a paycheck to fullfill. Yes, it happens.

However, Babcock knows this. The ENTIRE league of professionals knows this.

Is it right? No. But it's what happens when teams like Pittsburgh suddenly get a million goofy retard fans. THey see money and go for it.

Bottom line though, Detroit did actually just not play well. I mean yes, we played well enough to push it to OT, but we sucked at scoring, and most of our offensive lines did nothing. Don't get me wrong, SJ didn't exactly play well either. All things considered, scoring wise, it was fairly even balanced.....but SJ has a lot more chances in the 2nd and 3rd than Detroit.

SJ earned this game. It's *** that the refereeing eventually led to giving it to them, but they played better than Detroit most of the game.

Quit being naive, and assuming the outcome was entirely because of the refs. Sure, I too feel Detroit was basically made into the step childs of the game, but Detroit is a professional hockey team. Trust me, all of your opinions on refs are m00t compared to what they already know about them.

I agree, Pavelski is a diving *****.

I think he thinks he's in the NBA :) Fortunately for the NBA, they can just push themselves across the floor, for a penalty.

If you ever slo-mo, an NBA game, watch the penalties. I'll recap it for you:

Guy goes close, Guy 2 gets knocked on his ass from apparently the wind of previous guy, guy 2 lands on his ass and pushes himself 40 feet away and then acts like he got shot by a bullet, or actually a barrage of them. Penalty shot (Basket, whatever) ensues, that amazingly shot guy is perfectly ok to take :)

God, I hate the NBA.

But NBA reffing appeals to the idiots of america, and NHL reffing is following suit.

It's all about ratings, son. Ratings.

And I work for them, so I know a thing or two. Don't try to find me. I go to great care to be not found :)

Edited by Joey v3.4, 30 April 2011 - 04:38 AM.

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